dog attack on sheep, please always know where your dog is

Ashbx

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Do people not have there dogs trained to come to them when called, and also to lie down, it would save a lot of trouble if a lead breaks, why do people allow there dogs to pull constantly on the lead.

Im going to guess you are not a dog owner with a naïve comment like that. Dogs have instincts! If a mouse crosses infront of my terrier, no matter how much training I do with her, she is still going to chase that little mouse! Same goes for the sheep.

My two dogs have great recalls (and sit and lie down and paw etc etc) but if they saw sheep in a field, I would seriously struggle to get them back if they were off lead.

Mooooo

Recall is the most important. The boyo here knows by my tone of voice when to stop. Obviously difficult to do with older dogs or perhaps in a new area but if poor recall do ye not think it is irresponsible to go off lead on farmland?

Vizzy

Ashbx wrote: »

Im going to guess you are not a dog owner with a naïve comment like that. Dogs have instincts! If a mouse crosses infront of my terrier, no matter how much training I do with her, she is still going to chase that little mouse! Same goes for the sheep.

My two dogs have great recalls (and sit and lie down and paw etc etc) but if they saw sheep in a field, I would seriously struggle to get them back if they were off lead.

Contrary to what you think, your two dogs don't have great recall, I'm afraid.

ganmo

They got the dog in Wexford.
http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/dog-that-killed-over-50-sheep-in-wexford-shot-dead/

peasant

recall R = (training T / prey drive P) / distance D from owner

in other words ... don't rely on it

PucaMama

ganmo wrote: »

They got the dog in Wexford.
http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/dog-that-killed-over-50-sheep-in-wexford-shot-dead/

Look at the comments on that article.

"A good dog is a dead one".

Wonderful people we have.

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PucaMama wrote: »

Look at the comments on that article.

"A good dog is a dead one".

Wonderful people we have.

Very true comment...in this case.

PucaMama

Rogelio Uneven Skyjacker wrote: »

Very true comment...in this case.

Not true at all. Dog would have been fine with decent owners. I hope you don't have dogs.

Graces7

peasant wrote: »

recall R = (training T / prey drive P) / distance D from owner

in other words ... don't rely on it

Thanks. Dogs like humans have their weak points. Our job is knowing what they are. Used to be an old syaing, "The horse always kicks, the gun is always loaded and the dog always bites."

They are living creatures with deep instincts that can break through any training. My collie was great but that weak point so I catered for it. After finding her one day playing Russian roulette with the school bus... It is as if something just snaps in their brains.

A good owner knows this. Recall is only as good as the limitations of it. Around sheep no dog can be trusted.

ganmo

PucaMama wrote: »

Look at the comments on that article.

"A good dog is a dead one".

Wonderful people we have.

That's the only comment I'd disagree with.
The one about stringing up the dog for ppl to see, I was very tempted to do that to the one I shot

Knine

Looks like a Dutch Shepherd in that article. Too many idiots getting these high energy breeds of dogs & are not able or don't care how to manage them.

He also looks well fed so he definitely has an owner out there. I hope for the farmers sake this owner can be identified.

Cherry Blossom

ganmo wrote: »

That's the only comment I'd disagree with.
The one about stringing up the dog for ppl to see, I was very tempted to do that to the one I shot

And on that note you have brought this thread to a close. You won't find too many folks in here who don't know where their dogs are at all times so don't start any more threads on sheep attacks either ganmo, try the farming forum instead.