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The curious political agenda of Emma Watson

  • 23-01-2015 6:38pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    Some of you may recall the multi-millionaire, ivy league graduate, former child actress Emma Watson preaching from her merry soapbox about 'sexism' she faced growing up as an upper class member of the British establishment, culminating in her once being horrifically labelled 'bossy' by other children at the local speech and drama school. Rumours that the Simon Wiesenthal centre have offered their solidarity remain unconfirmed at this time.

    Well little Emma Watson has only gone and outdone herself by lecturing world leaders at the Davos forum about gender equality and, ahem, 'women's empowerment':

    http://www.independent.ie/business/davos-world-economic-forum/the-world-is-held-back-because-women-arent-equal-emma-watson-launches-new-initiative-with-powerful-davos-speech-30930781.html

    Yaw, yaw, yaw. It's all very good spoofing us with your phoney war stories Watson, and I'm sure your Guardianista friendly, policy vague droolings on equality make some lovely psuedo-intellectual side salad on facebook and twitter.

    Now how about you cut the chit chat and address the REAL areas of gender equality-namely large parts of the Middle East where speaking out if you are a women can get you a jar of battery acid in the face, or stoned to death for committing 'adultery' by getting raped. Almost every Western country allows for gender equality and empowerment in terms of legal and political framework, so it would be nice if you directed the spotlight on somewhere like Pakistan or Saudi Arabia for a change. Or it is a case of shuffling in your seat and muttering excuses when we bring up the elephant in the room?

    Does anyone else smell a rat when these precious 'aktores' and luvvies start dictating policy to Western society? What is their agenda? If they truly wanted to address equality then maybe they should go for the mother load.
    It appears Watson is being groomed for a position in the UN, and has decided to hop on board the lucrative multi million dollar talking shop of patronising rich Westerners who will bestow upon us their holy teachings from time to time.........without offering any realistic solutions.
    Blaming Western society for every problem is starting to get a little tiresome, and it's about time we called these chancers out on their bullsheete.

    I'm mad as hell, and I'm not accepting this rubbish any more.

    Champagne and crackers, anyone?



    TLDR: Cranky man calls out celebrity spoofers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    WTF is Emma Watson? Let her F.O. back to where she came from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    I concur.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭mickstupp


    Good for you, Boring username, being so dismissive of a person using their fame to make their voice heard and highlight issues of concern to them. How dare she.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    She's one fine filly alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    I've thanked your post not necessarily because I agree with you, but because I like your way with words.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,706 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    I'd do jail time for her in Prisoner Of Azkaban


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    OSI wrote: »
    Still would.




    (I am aware of the irony in that statement given the context she is brought up in here)

    I'd objectify the **** out of her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    On a related note:

    Feminists wanted "Equality of Freedom". Fair enough. Boom they got it.
    Feminists now want "Equality of outcome" and that is something no human has ever/will ever be lucky enough to have.

    Sometimes it seems they feel like they're owed an apology from men for being born human and human life/nature for being chaotic. For as long as we are alive and human they will have obstacles throw in front of us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    mickstupp wrote: »
    Good for you, Boring username, being so dismissive of a person using their fame to make their voice heard and highlight issues of concern to them. How dare she.

    Except she hasn't. As I pointed out, fluffly generic soundbytes don't amount to diddly squat in this world. As a self appointed messiah of feminism, she needs to start landing punches where they matter, instead of having a go at Western nations who are centuries ahead of the rest of the world.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    strobe wrote: »
    I've thanked your post not necessarily because I agree with you, but because I like your way with words.

    Why thank you. I may consider letting you touch my goolies some day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    another privileged political activist fights for her first world american and european sisters who all live like princesses while women in the developing world who are actually suffering from gender discrimination have no voice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Womens rights are her agenda. What is so curious about that? I think she is pretty open about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭obsidianclock


    You said it bro.

    I know what the Feminists and their Mangina accomplices will say in response to this - that's a case of "whataboutery" and "two wrongs not making a right" but when they kick up such a fuss about things like what can appear in our newspapers and song lyrics but when you talk about FGM they simply benignly agree that it's terrible then plough on about their bruised egos.

    I'm pleased to see people like you calling out celebs like Emma Watson, as she betrays the idiocy and double standards of modern western Feminism... If I may be allowed a shout out, the "Women Against Feminism" Facebook and Tumblr Pages have some excellent thoughts from women on why they want nothing to do with the movement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭obsidianclock


    Womens rights are her agenda. What is so curious about that? I think she is pretty open about it.

    Emma has been telling us over and over that Feminism is not here to dictate to you.

    Well if Emma Watson says it... :-D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    I'd do jail time for her in Prisoner Of Azkaban

    She was 14. That's a bit weird.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    OSI wrote: »
    Still would.

    (I am aware of the irony in that statement given the context she is brought up in here)
    Love is the only context that really matters.


    Irony is the fact that her performances as Hermione Granger will have more of a positive effect on young women (and men) than anything she ever says at the UN.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,896 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    She seems like a better human being than Lena Dunham.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,434 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Some of you may recall the multi-millionaire, ivy league graduate, former child actress Emma Watson preaching from her merry soapbox about 'sexism' she faced growing up as an upper class member of the British establishment, culminating in her once being horrifically labelled 'bossy' by other children at the local speech and drama school. Rumours that the Simon Wiesenthal centre have offered their solidarity remain unconfirmed at this time.

    Well little Emma Watson has only gone and outdone herself by lecturing world leaders at the Davos forum about gender equality and, ahem, 'women's empowerment':

    http://www.independent.ie/business/davos-world-economic-forum/the-world-is-held-back-because-women-arent-equal-emma-watson-launches-new-initiative-with-powerful-davos-speech-30930781.html

    Yaw, yaw, yaw. It's all very good spoofing us with your phoney war stories Watson, and I'm sure your Guardianista friendly, policy vague droolings on equality make some lovely psuedo-intellectual side salad on facebook and twitter.

    Now how about you cut the chit chat and address the REAL areas of gender equality-namely large parts of the Middle East where speaking out if you are a women can get you a jar of battery acid in the face, or stoned to death for committing 'adultery' by getting raped. Almost every Western country allows for gender equality and empowerment in terms of legal and political framework, so it would be nice if you directed the spotlight on somewhere like Pakistan or Saudi Arabia for a change. Or it is a case of shuffling in your seat and muttering excuses when we bring up the elephant in the room?

    Does anyone else smell a rat when these precious 'aktores' and luvvies start dictating policy to Western society? What is their agenda? If they truly wanted to address equality then maybe they should go for the mother load.
    It appears Watson is being groomed for a position in the UN, and has decided to hop on board the lucrative multi million dollar talking shop of patronising rich Westerners who will bestow upon us their holy teachings from time to time.........without offering any realistic solutions.
    Blaming Western society for every problem is starting to get a little tiresome, and it's about time we called these chancers out on their bullsheete.

    I'm mad as hell, and I'm not accepting this rubbish any more.

    Champagne and crackers, anyone?



    TLDR: Cranky man calls out celebrity spoofers



    Soooo, instead of making any attempt to tackle these inequalities yourself that seem to concern you so, you decide to take a pop at someone else who is at least making some attempt to tackle them?

    Righto, carry on, I think I know where this is going...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 456 ✭✭The Little Fella


    I'd put my basilisk into her chamber of secrets...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 126 ✭✭harrymagina


    She should do porn. I would like to see that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    She was 14. That's a bit weird.
    And refreshingly honest.
    She seems like a better human being than Lena Dunham.
    What has that fatty got to do with this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,706 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    She was 14. That's a bit weird.

    And you're saying it doesn't deserve jail time? That's weird


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    And you're saying it doesn't deserve jail time? That's weird
    He didn't say that at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Cisgender privileged bitch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Whiney spoiled brat springs to mind. I prefer to listen to the real heros fighting for women's rights in Africa and other places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    She seems like a better human being than Lena Dunham.

    That's not much of an accolade tbh


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Aiyana Calm Tray


    Prefer to see her have a coke problem and end up in rehab or something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    She seems like a better human being than Lena Dunham.
    That's not much of an accolade tbh
    Can someone please inform me of the Lena Dunham files?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    The Davos forum

    who the fcuk do these people think they actually are?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    K4t wrote: »
    Can someone please inform me of the Lena Dunham files?

    She supposedly sexually abused her younger sister when they were kids


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    Soooo, instead of making any attempt to tackle these inequalities yourself that seem to concern you so, you decide to take a pop at someone else who is at least making some attempt to tackle them?

    Righto, carry on, I think I know where this is going...

    To be fair, my acting career doesn't quite afford me the same pedestal as Watson. Although I did play a tree in the primary school play. Maybe I was just too wooden, baduum tish.
    I'd do a bit more but I don't quite have access to a microphone at the UN or Davos conference. Or millions of followers on twitter.

    Now, since you seemed to miss the HEAVY DARK PRINT, I specifically tried to draw attention to more pressing matters regarding feminism, y'know, where women actually die and stuff. Yes, even worse than being called 'bossy', if you can imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    The Davos forum

    who the fcuk do these people think they actually are?

    Climate change was the main topic this year afaik.

    1700 private jets were used to ferry all the VIPs to the event :rolleyes:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/01/23/1700-private-jets-descend-upon-davos-and-jon-stewart-shakes-his-head/


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭DarkyHughes


    Some of you may recall the multi-millionaire, ivy league graduate, former child actress Emma Watson preaching from her merry soapbox about 'sexism' she faced growing up as an upper class member of the British establishment, culminating in her once being horrifically labelled 'bossy' by other children at the local speech and drama school. Rumours that the Simon Wiesenthal centre have offered their solidarity remain unconfirmed at this time.

    Well little Emma Watson has only gone and outdone herself by lecturing world leaders at the Davos forum about gender equality and, ahem, 'women's empowerment':

    http://www.independent.ie/business/davos-world-economic-forum/the-world-is-held-back-because-women-arent-equal-emma-watson-launches-new-initiative-with-powerful-davos-speech-30930781.html

    Yaw, yaw, yaw. It's all very good spoofing us with your phoney war stories Watson, and I'm sure your Guardianista friendly, policy vague droolings on equality make some lovely psuedo-intellectual side salad on facebook and twitter.

    Now how about you cut the chit chat and address the REAL areas of gender equality-namely large parts of the Middle East where speaking out if you are a women can get you a jar of battery acid in the face, or stoned to death for committing 'adultery' by getting raped. Almost every Western country allows for gender equality and empowerment in terms of legal and political framework, so it would be nice if you directed the spotlight on somewhere like Pakistan or Saudi Arabia for a change. Or it is a case of shuffling in your seat and muttering excuses when we bring up the elephant in the room?

    Does anyone else smell a rat when these precious 'aktores' and luvvies start dictating policy to Western society? What is their agenda? If they truly wanted to address equality then maybe they should go for the mother load.
    It appears Watson is being groomed for a position in the UN, and has decided to hop on board the lucrative multi million dollar talking shop of patronising rich Westerners who will bestow upon us their holy teachings from time to time.........without offering any realistic solutions.
    Blaming Western society for every problem is starting to get a little tiresome, and it's about time we called these chancers out on their bullsheete.

    I'm mad as hell, and I'm not accepting this rubbish any more.

    Champagne and crackers, anyone?



    TLDR: Cranky man calls out celebrity spoofers

    Yet their some of the Wests best friends in the world & the Wests political leaders don't condemn the brutal treatment of women in these countries, instead they stay silent on these types of issues & give them the diplomatic protection & prop up these medieval regimes to carry out these barbaric acts against women because my enemies enemy is my friend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    cloud493 wrote: »
    She supposedly sexually abused her younger sister when they were kids
    She didn't.

    She fondled and possibly spread open her baby sister's vagina when she was 7 year's old. They were both prepubescent kids and they were siblings. Its natural, the majority of us have done it if we are completely honest and have good memories, and most psychologists/psychiatrists consider it a normal behavioural trait of kids of that age. Dunham was just honest and brave enough to write about it and probably knew it would stir up some controversy among the conservatives which would be good for her book sales.

    Anything else Dunham was done to warrant this reputation?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭DarkyHughes


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Prefer to see her have a coke problem and end up in rehab or something?

    I had a coke problem before. Ran out of some at a party once.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    And you're saying it doesn't deserve jail time?

    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    K4t wrote: »
    She didn't.

    She fondled and possibly spread open her baby sister's vagina when she was 7 year's old. They were both prepubescent kids and they were siblings. Its natural, the majority of us have done it if we are completely honest and have good memories, and most psychologists/psychiatrists consider it a normal behavioural trait of kids of that age. Dunham was just honest and brave enough to write about it and probably knew it would stir up some controversy among the conservatives which would be good for her book sales.

    Anything else Dunham was done to warrant this reputation?

    She bribed her 7 year old sister to kiss her and masturbated in the bed beside her. She was 13 at the time.

    She also subjected her to emotional torment throughout her childhood

    This is a quote from the book in which she talks about her relationship with the sister.
    "I took a perverse pleasure in delivering bad news to her, like the death of her grandfather.. hoping the fear would drive her into my arms"

    And another
    As she grew, I took to bribing her time and affection: one dollar in quarters if I could do her makeup like a “motorcycle chick.” Three pieces of candy if I could kiss her on the lips for five seconds. Whatever she wanted to watch on TV if she would just “relax on me.” Basically, anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl, I was trying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    She bribed her 7 year old sister to kiss her and masturbated in the bed beside her. She was 13 at the time.

    She also subjected her to emotional torment throughout her childhood

    This is a quote from the book in which she talks about her relationship with the sister.
    That's all pretty normal behaviour for kids.

    And I still fail to see how it relates to her behaviour as a grown adult.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 126 ✭✭harrymagina


    K4t wrote: »
    That's all pretty normal behaviour for kids.

    And I still fail to see how it relates to her behaviour as a grown adult.

    What kind of family did you grow up in? And 13 year old is not a kid.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    K4t wrote: »
    That's all pretty normal behaviour for kids.

    And I still fail to see how it relates to her behaviour as a grown adult.
    I can imagine a famous bloke getting such a free ride over such behaviour. Not.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Prefer to see her have a coke problem and end up in rehab or something?

    I get the feeling he'd prefer to see her be quiet and go away. You know, like a 'good little lady'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    K4t wrote: »
    She didn't.

    She fondled and possibly spread open her baby sister's vagina when she was 7 year's old. They were both prepubescent kids and they were siblings. Its natural, the majority of us have done it if we are completely honest and have good memories, and most psychologists/psychiatrists consider it a normal behavioural trait of kids of that age. Dunham was just honest and brave enough to write about it and probably knew it would stir up some controversy among the conservatives which would be good for her book sales.

    Anything else Dunham was done to warrant this reputation?

    Erm.....I'm not trying to embarrass you or anything, but I have never, ever heard of a child playing with another child's genitals when growing up. Also, Dunham mentions bribing her sister with sweets to kiss her when Dunham is aged 14. That's the textbook definition of a predator right there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Prefer to see her have a coke problem and end up in rehab or something?

    Worst. Conclusion. Ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    Her elitist Hogwart's education giving her a sanctimonious do gooder position.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Aiyana Calm Tray


    I get the feeling he'd prefer to see her be quiet and go away. You know, like a 'good little lady'.

    It's kinda funny though
    woman speaks up about women's rights
    WHAT WOULD A WOMAN LIKE YOU KNOW ANYWAY. SHUT UP WOMAN


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Erm.....I'm not trying to embarrass you or anything, but I have never, ever heard of a child playing with another child's genitals when growing up. Also, Dunham mentions bribing her sister with sweets to kiss her when Dunham is aged 14. That's the textbook definition of a predator right there.
    I dunno about predator, but it's well odd behaviour and she doesn't even realize it. She's the poster girl for the millennial types for good reason. Ivory tower, egocentric narcissist worldview, runs on the feelz and attention and sees little at fault within herself.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 davidgrace


    I think she's been wearing too much lipstick recently. A very garish shade too.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    bluewolf wrote: »
    It's kinda funny though
    woman speaks up about women's rights
    WHAT WOULD A WOMAN LIKE YOU KNOW ANYWAY. SHUT UP WOMAN
    Oh I take your point, though one could argue that her experiences and worldview as a famous child star inform her in a very different way compared to the vast majority of even western women. Now fair play for putting her neck out, but the fact of who she is allows this, but it also informs it. Plus I think people are getting "Bono Fatigue" with your "stars" prattling on. She's by no means anywhere near the top of that sanctimonious tree, but that would be part of it I reckon.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    davidgrace wrote: »
    I think she's been wearing too much lipstick recently. A very garish shade too.

    You should write her a letter and tell her that, otherwise how will she know what you think? Maybe use a red crayon to emphasise your point.


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