Porsche 924 Superthread

micko38

MOD: All Porsche 924 related things go into this new Superthread


Hi All,

I recently purchased a 924 and am starting to do a few bits to get it ready for the season Anyone got or know where I could buy a driver seat with the black & white pascha finish

Regards

M

Dades

Can't help with the seat, but bump this post with a few pics and you might catch the eye of one of the many other 924 owners in the forum and get lucky.

Would be great to see one more on the road!

Kenny Logins

I think there's a couple of breakers on Donedeal at the moment.

streacy

micko38 wrote: »

Hi All,

I recently purchased a 924 and am starting to do a few bits to get it ready for the season Anyone got or know where I could buy a driver seat with the black & white pascha finish

Regards

M

If the seat itself isn't too bad you could get it re-upholstered with the original material. It's still available from "Werk 924" in Germany. They have a shop on their website, can't post the link as I'm apparently a "new user"!

mattroche

Micko 38, there is a man in Portlaoise, that breaks 924. He has Ads. in D.D.

While we are on about Porsche 924s. My one cut out, and will not start. The garage now thinks it has to be the immobiliser, as they have tried everything else. Does anyone know about re setting it. They have done all the usual stuff, disconnected the battery overnight. Locked all the doors, and re opened them, but no luck. Called Lock Doctors to day, the car is too old ( 1983 ) so they cant help, or suggest anyone. Is there anyone out there that would have the electronic equipment that would go back that far, or know of any solution to the problem. Any help would be much appreciated.

micko38

Ye Have tried the breakers nothing in stock attached is material type. Thanks Streacy I'll try werk

Dades

mattroche wrote: »

While we are on about Porsche 924s. My one cut out, and will not start. The garage now thinks it has to be the immobiliser, as they have tried everything else. Does anyone know about re setting it. They have done all the usual stuff, disconnected the battery overnight. Locked all the doors, and re opened them, but no luck. Called Lock Doctors to day, the car is too old ( 1983 ) so they cant help, or suggest anyone. Is there anyone out there that would have the electronic equipment that would go back that far, or know of any solution to the problem. Any help would be much appreciated.

Is it a factory-fitted immobiliser? I have one on my own '83 but it's an aftermarket jobbie that requires a socket type key inserted before you turn on the ignition.

I assume nothing happens at all when you turn the key?

mattroche

Thanks Dades, I understand it is factory fitted. When you turn the key, the engine turns over, there is a weak spark for a second, and that it. The engine keeps turning, but it will not fire.

Kenny Logins

I didn't know they had immobilisers. I'd guess an ignition problem somewhere else..

Dades

I'd have thought an immobiliser would cut the power so even the starter motor wouldn't turn over. Sounds like the fuel pump - whether the immobiliser has disabled it, or something more simple like a fuse or a relay?

unkel

Changed the thread title and made it into a Porsche 924 Superthread. Everything 924 related goes in here now

Kenny Logins

Dades wrote: »

I'd have thought an immobiliser would cut the power so even the starter motor wouldn't turn over. Sounds like the fuel pump - whether the immobiliser has disabled it, or something more simple like a fuse or a relay?

Nah, they cut the ignition, otherwise you could bump start it.

streacy

mattroche wrote: »

Micko 38, there is a man in Portlaoise, that breaks 924. He has Ads. in D.D.

While we are on about Porsche 924s. My one cut out, and will not start. The garage now thinks it has to be the immobiliser, as they have tried everything else. Does anyone know about re setting it. They have done all the usual stuff, disconnected the battery overnight. Locked all the doors, and re opened them, but no luck. Called Lock Doctors to day, the car is too old ( 1983 ) so they cant help, or suggest anyone. Is there anyone out there that would have the electronic equipment that would go back that far, or know of any solution to the problem. Any help would be much appreciated.

Might be worth your while asking on the Porsche 924 owners club (UK) forum. They have a "New Owner Technical" forum where you can ask a few questions before joining up. Lots of good stuff in the technical forums too if you do join.

mattroche

Porsche 924 Up Date. The garage have by-passed the immobiliser, there is petrol coming to the injectors, there is spark at the distributor, but very poor & intermittent spark at the plug when they crank the engine. It would seem to be something small, but they cannot put their finger on it. It has had new Dist, Cap & Rotor arm, fuel pump relay, new plugs & leads, going to try a new coil, to see if that makes any difference! Any other suggestions? Thank you all for your contributions so far.

Kenny Logins

The ignition module near the left wheel well?

http://www.porsche924-944.nl/manual/Haynes/05_Ignition.htm

Agricola

mattroche wrote: »

Porsche 924 Up Date. The garage have by-passed the immobiliser, there is petrol coming to the injectors, there is spark at the distributor, but very poor & intermittent spark at the plug when they crank the engine. It would seem to be something small, but they cannot put their finger on it. It has had new Dist, Cap & Rotor arm, fuel pump relay, new plugs & leads, going to try a new coil, to see if that makes any difference! Any other suggestions? Thank you all for your contributions so far.

Sounds like the coil alright.

Kenny Logins

Agricola wrote: »

Sounds like the coil alright.

You'd think the mechanics would know this within a few minutes! :eek:

Dades

Thanks for the update - you'll get it sorted soon I'm sure!

Dades

While it's been too wet to do any work on my car I've been having lustful thoughts about changing my steering wheel.

My wheel is stock (that's it, below) but the leather is wearing off in several places and I've used Sugru to patch up a rip in the "2 o'clock" position but that is peeling too. Normally I love originality but since I need a new wheel I've been thinking of a change. Top of my current list is a Momo Prototipo. Not entirely left-field as they're pretty common other Porsches.

Anyone changed their wheel from stock?

Seems pretty straightforward with a Porsche-Momo boss. Was thinking of maybe putting one of these on too to raise it up a fraction and gain a bit of legroom.

Current wheel


Prototipo in a 924 (would be a black hub, though).

Kenny Logins

Ah, saw that on the Sugru site.

Dades

Kenny Logins wrote: »

Ah, saw that on the Sugru site.

Another fix of mine is in the booklet they send out with certain sugru packs! Big fan of the stuff - very handy for car fixes. Though since the price went up I feel they're charging too much.

Kenny Logins

Dades wrote: »

Another fix of mine is in the booklet they send out with certain sugru packs! Big fan of the stuff - very handy for car fixes. Though since the price went up I feel they're charging too much.

Free delivery this month, I think.. Amazon does anyway. I made a boot lock grommet for my 924, and new buffers for the petrol flap.

Dades

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Don't do it Dades! I hate that Style wheel you have, I had it on two of my 924's. My current one has the much nicer later one. I'd vote to get a nice newer one! Mine is the same one as below.

A couple of years ago I looked into getting one just like that, but now I've just gone right off them. The 924 handles like a go-kart and that just comes across as a GT wheel. Of course it's a matter of taste and whoever buys my car next might hate what I do with it.

LIGHTNING wrote: »

On my own 924 I am still trying to get a steering rack. I have had 4 people offer me one and none have replied to my PM's

Ofter I wonder what is wrong with people.

Dades

The square ones are a bit to modern for me, but I have just the one for you.



http://www.mrsteeringwheel.com/nardi-bisiluro-limited-edition-for-collection-5201-38-3700/

salysol

mattroche wrote:

While we are on about Porsche 924s. My one cut out, and will not start. The garage now thinks it has to be the immobiliser, as they have tried everything else. Does anyone know about re setting it. They have done all the usual stuff, disconnected the battery overnight. Locked all the doors, and re opened them, but no luck. Called Lock Doctors to day, the car is too old ( 1983 ) so they cant help, or suggest anyone. Is there anyone out there that would have the electronic equipment that would go back that far, or know of any solution to the problem. Any help would be much appreciated.

Matt,the likely scenario with the ignition on a 924 is either the Transister unit is breaking down [ which is common ] or the coil failing that it could also be the distributer.if you are getting spark at the plugs it could also be you are either getting too much fuel or not enough,in order to rectify the fuel issue if thats the problem you will need a long reach 3m allen key which you put into the small hole between the airflow meter and fuel distribution unit,be careful on turning it as you should only need to turn it a 1/4 turn either way at a time then try to start the car ?
Hope that helps,the trick to solving any mechanical or electrical problems on a 924 is down to the process of elimination.

galwaytt

....no to the Momo one - doesn't suit it. Either the 944 type above, or a Clubsport wheel like my old one:

Dades

The clubsport one was top of the list at one point, alright.

Still can't see beyond a new Prototipo at the moment but given this will be a birthday present to myself, I've a month or two to change my mind.

Any decent car shows coming up? Wouldn't mind a steering wheel reccie and my young fella keeps asking me when we can go to another.

beauf

That clubsport one would be my favourite. I bet its the most expensive.

Dades

beauf wrote: »

That clubsport one would be my favourite. I bet its the most expensive.

Not cheap, alright.

Watching this one on eBay at the moment.

deckie27

LIGHTNING wrote: »

On my own 924 I am still trying to get a steering rack. I have had 4 people offer me one and none have replied to my PM's

Did you get sorted for a rack?

unkel

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Not the worst price..

Did you see the winning bid was €237.70?

Dades

About the price of a new Momo plus boss!

Kinda a lot for a second hand wheel.

galwaytt

Overkill ?

Not if you can take it off when you sell it isn't !!

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/parts-and-plates/parts-and-accessories/porsche/brand-new-porsche-993-rs-steering-wheel/3273850

Dades

Might be a bit much having an airbag equipped wheel in an '83 924!

Good looking wheel, nonetheless.

mattroche

Porsche 924 Up-Date.. At last, it is going. After trying everything that you & I could think of, the mechanic used the distributor from my 1978, 924. He put new point, rotor arm, & distributor cap, and off it went, there is no electronic ignition now, but it driving as good as ever. I would like to thank you all for the help, and advice that you have given me.

salysol

In the event any of you need any parts for your 924,i might be able to help,
i have a lot of used parts,that i doubt i will ever use,so if you need a part i might just have it.

Dades

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Since the rack is coming out I will get my mechanic to look at the cable that controls the heat coming into the cabin. See if its damaged

Interested to hear how that turns out! Now it's gotten a bit milder again I'm reminded that constant heat isn't a long term option.

Perfectionists look away now...

Tried Autosol on my alloys without any real results, so purchased a can of silver alloy paint and let rip. Don't know how long the shine will last, but for a tenner you can't go wrong with the results! (Probably should have removed the wheel but time is in short supply these days)

Dades

Any recommendations on best oil type for an '83 NA?

Brand/grade etc.

Dades

LIGHTNING wrote: »

I got some stuff that is supposed to be for classics that came in a metal tin. Looks the part anyways :pac:

Halfords green tin here I come!

mossy50

try RETRO RIDES forum in the uk
loads of 924s being broken up for spare parts

Seweryn

LIGHTNING wrote: »

I got some stuff that is supposed to be for classics that came in a metal tin. Looks the part anyways :pac:

Personally, I would never use it. It is just not suitable for a car's engine and there are far superior products at a lower price.

For a 924 I would get the 5W40 Halfords synthetic oil (if you are in Halfords). Otherwise, any other 5W40 or 0W40 oil for petrol engines.

Dades

Finally got my birthday present last week and fitted it.

It's smaller than the stock wheel so took a little getting used to, but I'm really liking it. Yeah, unusual looking in a 924 but common in many other Porsches.

Still have to fit a retaining ring to keep the horn button (my favourite bit) in place.

Dades

The 924 has been sounding wonderful the last month or two... a lovely throaty rumble - much more manly than before.

Of course I knew that meant something was up. Finally crawled under to check how bad things were and found this:



Could be worse, I guess. Not knowing much about exhausts, I'm thinking a small section of that pipe could be cut out and replaced? A patch is probably not a long term solution and the NCT man might not like it come July.

Will miss the sound, though. Anyway of keeping the rumble without the rusty hole?

macplaxton

Just patch it up with repair bandage the day before the test. As long as it's secure and not leaky at the time of the test it should pass. :pac:

Dades

macplaxton wrote: »

Just patch it up with repair bandage the day before the test. As long as it's secure and not leaky at the time of the test it should pass. :pac:

Think I'd rather fix it in a more permanent fashion!

LIGHTNING wrote: »

I`m going to splash out and get a proper exhaust for my 924 in the summer. Nothing boy racer just a nice stainless steel exhuast.

That would be nice. I don't have the funds for that.

I'm wondering if there's such a thing as a length of pipe that has a sliding hatch or something you can open to keep the rumble.

hi5

Dades wrote: »

I'm wondering if there's such a thing as a length of pipe that has a sliding hatch or something you can open to keep the rumble.

Yes, a cut out valve..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-5-ELECTRONIC-EXHAUST-CUT-OUT-VALVE-SWITCH-Y-PIPE-/170628327045

Dades

That's what I'm talking about! Was thinking more long the lines of something that could be pieced together from in Woodies DIY, however.

ben9195

mattroche wrote: »

Porsche 924 Up Date. The garage have by-passed the immobiliser, there is petrol coming to the injectors, there is spark at the distributor, but very poor & intermittent spark at the plug when they crank the engine. It would seem to be something small, but they cannot put their finger on it. It has had new Dist, Cap & Rotor arm, fuel pump relay, new plugs & leads, going to try a new coil, to see if that makes any difference! Any other suggestions? Thank you all for your contributions so far.

Sounds like a coil problem to me

Agricola

NCT have no problem with patched exhausts as long as its not leaking and is secure. Mine went in a similar place on my 3 series and I ended up covering it with a small section of half pipe which i shoved up over the hole and then spotted with weld in a couple of places. Bit of fiberglass to finish. It has never failed the test cos of it and it's going on for 6/7 years now since I did it, Id say.

gn3dr

Just reading through here after not having been on for ages - you guys with the permanently hot heaters - it's likely to be the plastic heater valve internals - happened to my 944. Looks like it moves fine when you watch the cable move the arm - but the disc inside becomes disconnected from the arm - allowing hot water through to the heater matrix.

I had a spare from another 944 which I fitted and it sorted the issue but I was browsing Car Builder solutions catalog recently and noticed a valve which looks the exact same here http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/cable-operated-15mm-58-glass-reinforced-nylon-heater-valve

Not sure how much the Porsche one is.

Dades

gn3dr wrote: »

Just reading through here after not having been on for ages - you guys with the permanently hot heaters - it's likely to be the plastic heater valve internals - happened to my 944. Looks like it moves fine when you watch the cable move the arm - but the disc inside becomes disconnected from the arm - allowing hot water through to the heater matrix.

Thanks for that, gn3dr. I've have no time to work on my heater and it's becoming an issue! My cable is stuck though so I've more to do than replace the valve (which I think is knackered anyway).

To add to my heater woes, my windows have eventually stopped working! I have cleaned the switches a few times which used to solve the problem, but now nothing works. I changed a blown fuse on the relay and managed to get the the passenger window down three inches, and up two - leaving me with an open window.

I'm going to test the window motor directly from the battery which I've done before, and if all is well there might have to invest in new switches (again).

Anyone have any used but working 924/944 switches?

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Once I get it back I`ll be good to go! Think I`ll get a set of new tyres and maybe a custom exhaust. I may also remove the rear seat belts as they are a massive eye sore. Roll on summer driving!

When do you expect it back?