Off Topic Thread too point uh

Dave_The_Sheep

Zzippy wrote: »

I have absolutely zero interest in cage fighting/UFC, but that is one match I'd watch if they were put in a cage together.

Only if these were the rules:

swiwi_

Time for some basic maths

~5000
Let's say age 50, got going at age 15 = 35 years of "action"/"service"
5000/35 = 142/year

:eek:

Fun times for those who have to do traceability testing...

swiwi_

swiwi_ wrote: »

Time for some basic maths

~5000
Let's say age 50, got going at age 15 = 35 years of "action"/"service"
5000/35 = 142/year

:eek:

Fun times for those who have to do traceability testing...

¿Que?

Podge_irl

Deleted User wrote: »

¿Que?

Something to do with sexy time?

errlloyd

Podge_irl wrote: »

Something to do with sexy time?

The fact I worked this out is something I am both proud and not proud of.

Charlie Sheen is 50, claims he has had sex with 5000 women. Swiwi is quite reasonably assuming he began doing the dirty at age 15, and kept it up at the exact same rate until the present (in reality it has probably increased over time, but we'll give him the benefit of the doubt)

Based on those numbers Swiwi has concluded CS has sex with 142 women a year, and he has been HIV positive for 4 years. So based on that, somewhere around 568 women are gonna need to be tested, and some poor intern is gonna have to trace them - and trace the people they have since had sex with. The worry is that they're probably quite promiscuous too so it may have spread fast. If only every single person in the world had a little more sex, then HIV would spread slower.

That btw, doesn't include the men he has had sex with, and the people he's done drugs with.

errlloyd

errlloyd wrote: »

The fact I worked this out is something I am both proud and not proud of.

Charlie Sheen is 50, claims he has had sex with 5000 women. Swiwi is quite reasonably assuming he began doing the dirty at age 15, and kept it up at the exact same rate until the present (in reality it has probably increased over time, but we'll give him the benefit of the doubt)

Based on those numbers Swiwi has concluded CS has sex with 142 women a year, and he has been HIV positive for 4 years. So based on that, somewhere around 568 women are gonna need to be tested, and some poor intern is gonna have to trace them - and trace the people they have since had sex with. The worry is that they're probably quite promiscuous too so it may have spread fast. If only every single person in the world had a little more sex, then HIV would spread slower.

That btw, doesn't include the men he has had sex with, and the people he's done drugs with.

"So Honey, what did you do at work today?"

awec

Most men don't even get to ride the same woman 142 times a year, never mind a different one each time. :pac:

swiwi_

errlloyd wrote: »

The fact I worked this out is something I am both proud and not proud of.

Charlie Sheen is 50, claims he has had sex with 5000 women. Swiwi is quite reasonably assuming he began doing the dirty at age 15, and kept it up at the exact same rate until the present (in reality it has probably increased over time, but we'll give him the benefit of the doubt)

Based on those numbers Swiwi has concluded CS has sex with 142 women a year, and he has been HIV positive for 4 years. So based on that, somewhere around 568 women are gonna need to be tested, and some poor intern is gonna have to trace them - and trace the people they have since had sex with. The worry is that they're probably quite promiscuous too so it may have spread fast. If only every single person in the world had a little more sex, then HIV would spread slower.

That btw, doesn't include the men he has had sex with, and the people he's done drugs with.

Nice work detective Lloyd. Hopefully none of those people test positive and also donated blood...

awec

swiwi_ wrote: »

Nice work detective Lloyd. Hopefully none of those people test positive and also donated blood...

Is blood not screened?

awec

awec wrote: »

Is blood not screened?

Most definitely

swiwi_

awec wrote: »

Is blood not screened?

Yeah it is. But there are still theoretical window periods (blood infected but screening tests negative). Biggest risk is hepatitis B these days. Risk is still really small of course.

errlloyd

awec wrote: »

Is blood not screened?

Charlie Sheen actually has an undetectable level of HIV in his blood for example (because of his meds).

This is why gay men who have had sex still can't give blood in Ireland, which is something you can feel free to be furious about if you wish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Blood_Transfusion_Service#Ban_on_men_who_have_sex_with_men

swiwi_

errlloyd wrote: »

Charlie Sheen actually has an undetectable level of HIV in his blood for example (because of his meds).

This is why gay men who have had sex still can't give blood in Ireland, which is something you can feel free to be furious about if you wish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Blood_Transfusion_Service#Ban_on_men_who_have_sex_with_men

It's based on perceived risk/balance. Blood services got badly burnt in the era of transmission of Hep C/HIV (especially Hep C in Ireland). I think historically and statistically MSM have a higher prevalence of at-risk infections, and in the days of much longer window periods, risk of transmission was a concern. My understanding is that it is being (and has been successfully) argued that with modern testing methods, even if prevalence might still be higher, the testing is good enough to mean it's no longer necessary to list MSM as a contraindication to donation.

The population at large (rightly) expect blood transfusions to be as safe as possible, so blood transfusion services are always extremely cautious before they change anything. I think in France some of the blood transfusion directors went to jail over the Hep C transmission.

awec

This wind is so bad I can feel the glass in the windows in our apartment shaking.

Stheno

awec wrote: »

This wind is so bad I can feel the glass in the windows in our apartment shaking.

I got propelled halfway down leeson street earlier trying to cross the road

Pink Fairy

Stheno wrote: »

I got propelled halfway down leeson street earlier trying to cross the road

Did you get any offers?

Stheno

Pink Fairy wrote: »

Did you get any offers?

Lol too early

Stheno

Germany vs Netherlands soccer match called off due to a security threat

Zzippy

errlloyd wrote: »

Charlie Sheen actually has an undetectable level of HIV in his blood for example (because of his meds).

This is why gay men who have had sex still can't give blood in Ireland, which is something you can feel free to be furious about if you wish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Blood_Transfusion_Service#Ban_on_men_who_have_sex_with_men

I've had this discussion with someone who works in blood transfusion/medical lab testing. The window period as swiwi mentioned above is one good reason not to change the current ban. I would have been of the opinion that the ban should be lifted, but she made compelling arguments as to why it shouldn't. The risk of CJD from people who lived in the UK during a certain period is probably infinitesimally smaller than the risk of HIV from MSM or injecting drig users, yet we still have a ban on former UK residents. It's not a discrimination thing, it's simple risk analysis.

RuggieBear

awec wrote: »

Most men don't even get to ride the same woman 142 times a year, never mind a different one each time. :pac:

you are obviously doing it wrong:pac:

awec

RuggieBear wrote: »

you are obviously doing it wrong:pac:

I said most men, not all! I'm pretty much irresistible Ruggie, but I feel for my fellow men who are less adonis-like than myself.

mfceiling

awec wrote: »

Most men don't even get to ride the same woman 142 times a year, never mind a different one each time. :pac:

Speak for yourself!!

swiwi_

awec wrote: »

This wind is so bad I can feel the glass in the windows in our apartment shaking.

Eat less cabbage.

swiwi_

Zzippy wrote: »

I've had this discussion with someone who works in blood transfusion/medical lab testing. The window period as swiwi mentioned above is one good reason not to change the current ban. I would have been of the opinion that the ban should be lifted, but she made compelling arguments as to why it shouldn't. The risk of CJD from people who lived in the UK during a certain period is probably infinitesimally smaller than the risk of HIV from MSM or injecting drig users, yet we still have a ban on former UK residents. It's not a discrimination thing, it's simple risk analysis.

Yeah, if you don't know, your first thought is discrimination or homophobia. But in fact there are a whole lot of Qs (all aimed at finding a potential donor at statistically proven higher risk of carrying an infection) when you go to donate: travel to certain countries, piercings, drug use etc etc and MSM.

The blood service is trying to find the least risky donor possible because that is the first step in ensuring a healthy blood supply. I imagine it is also why law courts have not ruled that refusing donations from MSM is unconstitutional, because it is not an anti-MSM measure, but rather a pro-safe blood one.

If it can be shown that MSM no longer constitutes a genuinely increased risk of transfusion-transmitted infection, then that will no longer be a reason to refuse a donor.

I can't remember the exact figures, but the prevalance of the viral infections in MSM relative to someone who ticks none of the high-risk boxes on the transfusion form is relatively quite high.

Stheno

awec wrote: »

I said most men, not all! I'm pretty much irresistible Ruggie, but I feel for my fellow men who are less adonis-like than myself.

Is awec not scrawny Mcscrawny?

Pink Fairy

Stheno wrote: »

Is awec not scrawny Mcscrawny?

Ah no....he's thinner than that

Stheno

Pink Fairy wrote: »

Ah no....he's thinner than that

Journeyman_1

Zzippy wrote: »

I've had this discussion with someone who works in blood transfusion/medical lab testing. The window period as swiwi mentioned above is one good reason not to change the current ban. I would have been of the opinion that the ban should be lifted, but she made compelling arguments as to why it shouldn't. The risk of CJD from people who lived in the UK during a certain period is probably infinitesimally smaller than the risk of HIV from MSM or injecting drig users, yet we still have a ban on former UK residents. It's not a discrimination thing, it's simple risk analysis.

I suffer from not being able to give blood because i spent 1.5-2 years in England when I was born. It pisses me off no end. If England followed the same rules, most of their population > 24 would not be able to give blood!

mfceiling

Journeyman_1 wrote: »

I suffer from not being able to give blood because i spent 1.5-2 years in England when I was born. It pisses me off no end. If England followed the same rules, most of their population > 24 would not be able to give blood!

Same here. I'm a nordie and I was a regular blood donor back home. Now I'm in Dublin and I can't give a drop.

Stheno

mfceiling wrote: »

Same here. I'm a nordie and I was a regular blood donor back home. Now I'm in Dublin and I can't give a drop.

My OH is the same lived in the UK for four of the relevant years and can't donate at all