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Saudi Arabia - public flogging for insulting Islam

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    #92
    Egginacup
    Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    Bootros Bootros wrote: »
    Hard to see why the US would undermine its own interests ( oil self sufficiency) in this case.

    What exactly are you saying?


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    #93
    Zebra3
    Registered Users Posts: 13,858 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Bootros Bootros wrote: »
    The Catholic church probably was no more or less abusive of children in its custody than secular organisations would have been ( or were in non-Catholic countries)

    Have you got the stats to back that the up?

    And a lot of kids who were being raped by top members of the Roman church were not in the custody of the church.


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    #94
    Liberalbrehon
    Registered Users Posts: 215 ✭✭Liberalbrehon


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Hopefully the price of oil stays low, will put these boys out of business. They're running a $38bn deficit.

    They have $750 billion in reserves. They are not worried yet and are even increasing spending. Come back in 3-5 years when reserves are below $100 billion


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    #95
    Liberalbrehon
    Registered Users Posts: 215 ✭✭Liberalbrehon


    Egginacup wrote: »
    They are the ones who control the price of oil and have driven the current price down.

    Thanks for your well-thought-out geopolitical synopsis.

    They haven't willingly brought the price down but because of shale oil bringing the price down, now it is they are intent on keeping it down to put the competitors out of business.
    I don't think it will work as a strategy, long term


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    #96
    Zebra3
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    Liberalbrehon wrote: »
    They have $750 billion in reserves. They are not worried yet and are even increasing spending. Come back in 3-5 years when reserves are below $100 billion

    That figures independently verified?


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    #97
    Liberalbrehon
    Registered Users Posts: 215 ✭✭Liberalbrehon


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    That figures independently verified?
    Yes, it's on the web from reliable sites. here's one. They've being saving for years.

    http://www.aawsat.net/2014/10/article55337297


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    #98
    TommyKnocker
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    Bootros Bootros wrote: »
    Hard to see why the US would undermine its own interests ( oil self sufficiency) in this case.
    Low oil prices hurt Iran and Israel, who control the US, and Saudi both have issues with Iran, so Saudi will keep the US supplied with Oil on the cheap while they hammer Iran and Russia, who cannot sustain low oil prices over the medium long term.


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    #99
    BeerWolf
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    I won't hide it:

    I fucking hate Saudis...


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    #100
    anncoates
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    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    If the videos are legit, it didn't look too bad and was over in less than 30 seconds. Looks like it is intended to cause humiliation as opposed to pain.

    Barbaric practice.

    Yeah I thought it looked more like a symbolic /humiliating punishment as well, if still obviously barbaric. If they were beating the poor guy full strength with that frequency, he'd probably be dead.


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    #101
    kstand
    Registered Users Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭kstand


    An odious nation with far too much money and influence.
    I can never understand why anyone would want to go and work there.
    It could have been worse for him - they could have brought him to the square and lopped his head off with a ceremonial sword.


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    #102
    Tony EH
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    anncoates wrote: »
    Yeah I thought it looked more like a symbolic /humiliating punishment as well, if still obviously barbaric. If they were beating the poor guy full strength with that frequency, he'd probably be dead.

    And that what this is. Public humiliation.

    The "lashes" that are dished out are equivalent to the stocks from Middle Ages Europe. Not exactly agony, but uncomfortable and humiliating.

    When people see this article they'll of course think that it lashes being dealt out by a bull whip, 'Mutiny on the Bounty' style. But a 1000 of those will kill you stone dead.


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    #103
    TwoShedsJackson
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    kstand wrote: »
    I can never understand why anyone would want to go and work there.

    No income tax.


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    #104
    mzungu
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    kstand wrote: »
    An odious nation with far too much money and influence.
    I can never understand why anyone would want to go and work there.
    It could have been worse for him - they could have brought him to the square and lopped his head off with a ceremonial sword.

    Its all about the moolah !


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    #105
    Philo Beddoe
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    TwoShedsJackson wrote: »
    No income tax.

    And no conscience, apparently.


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    #106
    skooterblue2
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    The sooner these dark ages cnuts run out of oil thr better

    What do you think is going to happen when that happens? they become a forgotten part of the world like Mongolia or Kazacktan ? Its the oil that keeps them down. The day they realise that they gave us Trignometery, the pyramids, the Bagdad battery, three point sail, decimal system, radians and start working on science and real commerce, they will become a real force to be reckoned with.

    Imagine a United Arabian Kingdom stretching from North Africa into Western Asia. It would would have an administrative capital in Terhan and second city in Cairo. The Usual Religion cities would have cultural protection like Jersulem (wait until they kick the Jews out), Mecca and Damascus ..... Now that is Scary. They will have a massive presence in Europe. They will be independent with indigenous food and manufacturing, financial institutions and commerce with their own reserarch scientists.

    This is a world without oil. Oil keeps them argueing with eachother like dogs under the table fighting over scraps when they should have a seat at the table. I hope I never live to see this day.


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    #107
    Zebra3
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    kstand wrote: »
    An odious nation with far too much money and influence.
    I can never understand why anyone would want to go and work there.
    It could have been worse for him - they could have brought him to the square and lopped his head off with a ceremonial sword.

    There is a difference between nation and state.

    The state is a dictatorship backed by the West, despised by a lot of natives.


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    #108
    Zebra3
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    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Imagine a United Arabian Kingdom stretching from North Africa into Western Asia. It would would have an administrative capital in Terhan and second city in Cairo. The Usual Religion cities would have cultural protection like Jersulem (wait until they kick the Jews out), Mecca and Damascus ..... Now that is Scary.

    Do you write for the Daily Mail or are you just a reader?


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    #109
    skooterblue2
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    Neither a Col. T.E. Lawrence Fan....


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    #110
    K4t
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    PizzamanIRL wrote: »
    This is why I'm glad I live in a place like Ireland.
    Indeed.


    We only face the risk of a €25,000 fine and possibly imprisonment for blasphemy.


    At least our backs will be ok though.


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    #111
    Auldloon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Auldloon


    Worked there a few times after 9/11 when there was no work in my line anywhere else. No better way to become racist than entering Saudi. Bunch of c***s


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    #112
    Bootros Bootros
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Have you got the stats to back that the up?

    And a lot of kids who were being raped by top members of the Roman church were not in the custody of the church.

    The stats would depend on there being fewer cover ups in other jurisdictions.


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    #113
    Bootros Bootros
    Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Bootros Bootros


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    What do you think is going to happen when that happens? they become a forgotten part of the world like Mongolia or Kazacktan ? Its the oil that keeps them down. The day they realise that they gave us Trignometery, the pyramids, the Bagdad battery, three point sail, decimal system, radians and start working on science and real commerce, they will become a real force to be reckoned with.

    Imagine a United Arabian Kingdom stretching from North Africa into Western Asia. It would would have an administrative capital in Terhan and second city in Cairo. The Usual Religion cities would have cultural protection like Jersulem (wait until they kick the Jews out), Mecca and Damascus ..... Now that is Scary. They will have a massive presence in Europe. They will be independent with indigenous food and manufacturing, financial institutions and commerce with their own reserarch scientists.

    This is a world without oil. Oil keeps them argueing with eachother like dogs under the table fighting over scraps when they should have a seat at the table. I hope I never live to see this day.

    Who the Fcuk writes the insane history books you read?


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    #114
    Bootros Bootros
    Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Bootros Bootros


    TommyKnocker wrote: »
    Low oil prices hurt Iran and Israel, who control the US, and Saudi both have issues with Iran, so Saudi will keep the US supplied with Oil on the cheap while they hammer Iran and Russia, who cannot sustain low oil prices over the medium long term.

    Um ok. Iran controls the U.S.?

    The claim that Saudi is working with the US to undermine Russia is nonsense. Russia is no threat to Saudi Arabia. They are trying to undermine the U.S. Shale industry.


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    #115
    Cantona's Collars
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    A cleric there has declared a fatwa on snowmen and "Mickey Mouse is an agent of satan"

    http://nypost.com/2015/01/13/saudi-arabian-cleric-issues-fatwa-on-snowmen/

    If it was on the Simpsons you'd laugh but this is real life,dark ages idiocy.


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    #116
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Bootros Bootros wrote: »
    Who the Fcuk writes the insane history books you read?

    Please state which part you have a problem with?
    Advanced Mathematical workings were needed for the consturction of the Pyramids. The Bagdad batter is featured in wall paintings in Egypt, The Europeans didnt come around to a three point sail until centries afterwards. Arabs have used advanced metalurgical workings to render gold onto wood and many other sciences that have been lost. Using Fungal poisons and radioactive stones to as deterrents to entering tombs

    United Arabian Kingdom? Col. Lawrence envisaged it under King Faisel post World War One (Seven Pillars of Wisdom). Once the Moorish empire covered most of North Africa and into Spain (Cordoba) and Italy. Jews driven from Israel Been done many times during the crusades and have only recently in the last 60 years returned to the Holy Land before that they were given scanctury in Northern Europe (Poland Germany UK Holland France) post the crusades because of their crafts and trades.

    What books do you be reading?

    I could ask you a similar question.


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    #117
    JupiterKid
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    Saudi Arabia: A truly barbaric and deeply backward society propped up by oil.


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    #118
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    What do you think is going to happen when that happens? they become a forgotten part of the world like Mongolia or Kazacktan ? Its the oil that keeps them down. The day they realise that they gave us Trignometery, the pyramids, the Bagdad battery, three point sail, decimal system, radians and start working on science and real commerce, they will become a real force to be reckoned with.

    Imagine a United Arabian Kingdom stretching from North Africa into Western Asia. It would would have an administrative capital in Terhan and second city in Cairo. The Usual Religion cities would have cultural protection like Jersulem (wait until they kick the Jews out), Mecca and Damascus ..... Now that is Scary. They will have a massive presence in Europe. They will be independent with indigenous food and manufacturing, financial institutions and commerce with their own reserarch scientists.

    This is a world without oil. Oil keeps them argueing with eachother like dogs under the table fighting over scraps when they should have a seat at the table. I hope I never live to see this day.
    What have they invented say in the last.....500 years?


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    #119
    Uncle Ruckus
    Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭Uncle Ruckus


    Socities like these sicken me. Hopefully we can invent a time machine and throw them back to the medieval age.


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    #120
    Streetwalker
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    Auldloon wrote: »
    Worked there a few times after 9/11 when there was no work in my line anywhere else. No better way to become racist than entering Saudi. Bunch of c***s

    All of them of course :rolleyes:


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    #121
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    What have they invented say in the last.....500 years?

    Ypu could say that about the chinese too .... Same story only Opium.
    How could a little country like Great Britian subdue a place like China?
    Look how far China has come in the last 40 years, they are now in the Space race.

    I remember laughing at a lecturer in college in 1999. "The Chinese are going to be the No1 manufacturer of computers in 5 years". We were so full of ourselves we never saw it coming. We viewed China as then as a second world country with barbaric civil rights, poor access to education and health care, making mass produced cheap goods. Within 3 years Compaq and Gateway were gone and Apple were repacking Chinese computers in Ireland, "Product of the EU". See how fast they have come up? I dont see a lot of difference between Communist States of the cold war and Tinpot dictatorships in the middle east (keep 'em poor, hungry, sick and uneducated). Irish Colleges get a premium payment (x6) for a Chinese Student over an Irish Student.

    Now China holds most of the American debts. They dont sell an ounce of steel only finished goods. They had done deals in Africa over mineral and mining rights. As our lecturer said "1 Billion Chinese cannot be wrong".

    This future Kingom are in a better place than China geographically for the Silk road and Suez canal. Yes it will have problems with water and agriculture but so has Israel and they over came it. Now do you see my point? I feel a little foolish saying then "The only thing China are good for are squeaky toys and cantonese Chicken".


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