Prince Andrew in jep?

Muahahaha · 17-02-2022 8:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118644518#Comment_118644518

Ive read that £365m valuation before but there are others that think it is a fair bit higher, AFAIK there was a recent book written on her wealth and their guess is upwards of £600m. The Duchy of Lancaster alone (44,000 acres of land across several wealthy English counties) is valued at just under half a billion.

She would have no problems paying all off Andrews £12m as she derives an annual income of £20m-£25m from the ground rents in the Duchy of Lancaster. I always love the way the British media explain the Duchy of Lancaster income as her "private income" when the 44,000 acres she owns didnt get pulled out of a rabbit hat, some previous monarch sent an army to grab that land for themselves and kick the peasants off if they couldnt afford the rent.

NIMAN · 17-02-2022 8:39pm

This all stinks.

Once again, if you are rich you are above the law.

Pity the accuser didn't have the will to pass on the money and continue with the case. But money always talks.

Very damaging for the royal family though. They will be forever tainted by this. Andrew will not be living much of a life from here on in. But he deserves everything he gets.

17-02-2022 9:21pm

I would imagine that Philip left some money to his children. Also, Andrew recently sold his Swiss chalet. He should have something left from that. No doubt he’ll still have a roo over his head and a generous allowance.

riclad · 17-02-2022 10:47pm

His only income right now is his army pension, the legal case is over but Virginia Giuffre is free to write a book about the whole affair if she wants .I dont think you are above the law but if you are rich you can pay off accusers and settle legal case,s before the legal process is complete.Mr esptein was very rich with alot of powerful friends but he still ended up in prison.His wealth enabled him to threaten or slow down the publication of newspaper articles or investigation of his illegal activitys with young women.Even after epstein was convicted of sexual offences prince andrew continued to visit him and stay in his mansion in new york.I think he was under pressure from prince charles to put an end to the legal case before it further damages the reputation of the royal family

Peregrinus · 18-02-2022 1:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118648342#Comment_118648342

He's not really free to deny it.

For the rest of this year he's not free to speak about the matter at all — neither of them are. That's part of the settlement agreement,apparently. (Inserted at his request, I don't doubt, so that continued discussion of this matter doesn't cast a shadow over his mother's jubilee celebrations.)

Thereafter they are both free to talk, but Andrew cannot - at least, with any credibility, without making matters worse for himself than he has already done - say anything that is at odds with what he has said in his settlement agreement. And, in the settlement agreement, while he hasn't admitted that he had sex with Giuffre, he has said:

that he never intended to malign her character
that she has suffered as a victim of abuse
that she has suffered as a result of unfair public attacks
that he commends her bravery in standing up for herself and others
that he himself regrets his association with Epstein.

All that certainly puts the kibosh on any chance of him repeating the kind of things that he said in the past - that he never met Giuffre, that her claims are untrue, that he does not regret his association with Epstein. Indeed, the reference in the settlement agreement to "unfair public attacks" on Giuffre will be widely seen as a reference to what Andrew himself said about her.

So, if he talks about this at all, he has to say something very different to what he said in the past, which then gives rise to obvious questions like "why did you say differently in the past?", which he would be embarrassed to be asked, and would rather not have to answer.

So his course of action is clear. He will not talk about this at all. When the year is up, Giuffre will give an extended interview/write a book/etc, and Andrew will say nothing at all.

Sandor Clegane · 18-02-2022 2:22am

It had to get settled for the Royal's sake, Id say the settlement was pushed by people above Andrews pay grade tbh, going by the interview Andrew gave to the BBC it would of been an utter disaster having him defend himself, the first interview was an utter **** show and what's worse he thought he did well.

BattleCorp1 · 18-02-2022 3:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118650689#Comment_118650689

Your posts are very informative and well thought out but with respect, he hasn't admitted that he acted in any inappropriate way to Ms. Giuffre. He said she was the victim of abuse, not that he committed it. Agreed, his credibility is blown out of the water, and agreed again, he'd be best off to say nothing at all, but he can still deny it because he hasn't been convicted of anything in a civil or criminal court.

BattleCorp1 · 18-02-2022 3:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118648776#Comment_118648776

If the settlement agreement is up on the internet, you'd wonder why the newspapers aren't running with it?

cap.in.hand. · 18-02-2022 4:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118653783#Comment_118653783

The basis for the settlement agreement had to be prince Andrew had known or met Roberts whether he did/didn't/remembered or not...and accepting it.... It may not be written in the actual settlement agreement... remember her public allegations against prince Andrew that ...he knows what he's done. ...still stands... and she hasn't withdrawn them.....while he the one apologising to her in essence....his denying days finished with this settlement.

Black Swan · 18-02-2022 7:27pm

Settled case out of court. As expected.

Penn · 18-02-2022 8:40pm

[EDIT: Wrong thread]

Peregrinus · 19-02-2022 11:27am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118653763#Comment_118653763

Well, strictly speaking, even if he were found liable by a civil court or convicted in a criminal court, he could still deny it — you can always say the court got it wrong. There is literally nothing that would make it physically impossible for him to say "I didn't do it."

But after what he has agreed to in the settlement, he can't deny it — as in, the inevitable outcome of any further denial would be to damage himself still more than he is already damaged. After what he has agreed to in the settlement, no denial would have the remotest credibility, even among people strongly motivated to believe him. He's agreed to a state of affairs in which further denial is, for all practical purposes, not an option open to him.

ohnonotgmail · 19-02-2022 1:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118657678#Comment_118657678

Could a further denial be seen as a breach of the settlement and allow guiffre to bring the case back to court?

19-02-2022 1:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118658098#Comment_118658098

I don’t think that Andrew will be making any further comment on the case!

Cork Lass · 19-02-2022 3:48pm

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2022/0219/1281825-jean-luc-brunel-dies/

This is on RTE news website - another associate of Epsteins.

ohnonotgmail · 19-02-2022 4:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118658198#Comment_118658198

A smart person wouldn't. Andrew isn't smart

Capt'n Midnight · 21-02-2022 12:29am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118639825#Comment_118639825

Mohamed al-Fayed would pay £12m for a Knighthood

Peregrinus · 21-02-2022 2:37am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118658098#Comment_118658098

I would think not, unless there is an explicit clause to that effect in the agreement. I've seen no newspaper reports suggesting there is such a clause and it would surprise me greatly if there were.

Thinkingaboutit · 21-02-2022 6:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118658753#Comment_118658753

Ghislaine Maxwell should hope she has a reputation for discretion, which might be uncertain as that former maths teacher and co. were running a blackmail operation.

Supposedly no sweat not a Prince outside the Palace Andrew (HRH there so he doesn't have to bow to his siblings) sold a Swiss chalet, for £12 million but it seems a bit close to a disguised bailout.

Stanley 1 · 21-02-2022 6:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118668724#Comment_118668724

Think it was 18/18m but he was in a leagal dispute with the former owner for about 6m and she had instructed lawyers, at a guess he had major borrowings on this chalet, doubt if there was enough left over to cover a settlement of 12m.

ohnonotgmail · 21-02-2022 6:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118668789#Comment_118668789

There was a dispute with the previous owner because he still hadn't paid in full for it.

Leg End Reject · 08-03-2022 7:23pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60667111

Settlement paid, Swiss chalet still not sold. 🤔🤔🤔

Muahahaha · 08-03-2022 7:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118752791#Comment_118752791

Media reported that the money for the chalet still hasnt come through so he borrowed £7m from Charles and £2m from the Queen to pay his bill to Guiffree

Prince Andrew is set to receive £7 million from his older brother to cover the payout for his civil sexual assault case against Virginia Giuffre. After weeks of lingering questions about who exactly will foot the multi-million pound bill, it is understood Prince Charles will stump up the hefty sum, while the Queen will cover £2 million.

Buckingham Palace has been mostly silent about the Duke of York’s decade-long battle with Ms Giuffre, which ended with an out-of-court settlement believed to have cost him some £12 million. Despite vowing to fight the allegations that he raped her when she was 17, which he vehemently denied since day one, Andrew decided not to risk a trial.

Speaking on Charles’ decision to loan the money, a source told The Sun: ‘There were family discussions about how to “take a little from here and a little from there”.

‘Once it (money from the chalet) hits his bank account, he can pay back his brother and whoever else has lent him money.

‘But that payment (to Virginia) has to be paid on time. He can’t rely on selling the chalet. Too many things can go wrong and the court won’t wait for property queries.’

https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/07/prince-charles-to-loan-andrew-up-to-7000000-for-sex-abuse-payout-16229439/