Apple on Panorama

Hachiko

What a sham.....

Hope people who fall over themselves queuing up 2 nights in a row to get their hands on i-stuff watch the reality.

brutal.

overzealous apple fanyboyos will no doubt have this locked within the next few minutes.

ColeTrain

Give us context dammit

_Kaiser_

Watching it here myself.. shocking conditions alright but I doubt it's just Apple - companies like Foxconn supply most if not all of the major brands as well.

Wibbs

The fact is H, it's not just Apple. Many of our electronic "fancy goods", never mind our shoes and clothes, are manufactured in exactly the same conditions and often worse. So Apple iPHone Baaad? Where does your Android phone come from? Where do your jeans, your shirts etc come from, the PC you're typing this on?

TrustedApple

Been watching this but anything you buy from China is made just like this i am sorry tell you.

My Samsung phone made in china, Sony, Microsoft, Dell, Google and so on and to make it even funnier for you there all made by foxconn as well.

So basically anything you buy from china while be made just like may it be foxconn or some one else. This so you cant just blame apple you have to blame any computer / high tech company make there stuff there.

_Kaiser_

ColeTrain wrote: »

Give us context dammit

Panorama special on BBC now about the conditions workers really face in the companies that supply and build Apple's products.

Exhaustion/falling asleep on the job, enforced illegal overtime, work environments that are more like prisons etc

ColeTrain

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Panorama special on BBC now about the conditions workers really face in the companies that supply and build Apple's products.

Exhaustion/falling asleep on the job, enforced illegal overtime, work environments that are more like prisons etc

A bit like Dunnes Stores then..

Standard Toaster

Wow, Apple makes $250 profit per iPhone. :-o



Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus Red Gold Edition

Streetwalker

It's rampant everywhere those types of conditions. Fact is even if people don't want to admit it nobody gives a sh it. Next up sports.

Tail Docker

So, Apple are slightly rotten? Or am I taking the core issue up wrong?

myshirt

I have been saying it for a long time, Filipino kids make the best tshirts.... don't they....

Plain fact lads, the majority of people in comparatively privileged positions do not give a sh!t.
Penneys for example... a f#ckin institution in Ireland.... kids in floods of tears in a factory in Brazil as we speak.. says it all really

mad muffin

It's the Samsung chaebol we should be supporting! DOWN WITH APPLE!!!

LONG LIVE SAMSUNG!!!!!

Hachiko

$5 in salary to make an iphone 6 costing $600

nice.

no wonder apple are worth half a trillion dollars, do they even pay tax in Cork?

Tail Docker

myshirt wrote: »

I have been saying it for a long time, Filipino kids make the best tshirts.... don't they....

Plain fact lads, the majority of people in comparatively privileged positions do not give a sh!t.
Penneys for example... a f#ckin institution in Ireland.... kids in floods of tears in a factory in Brazil as we speak.. says it all really

Not. China, Bangladesh, India, Vietnam, possibly. Brazil? No. Are you nuts?

SEPT 23 1989

Well you'll work harder with a gun in your back for a bowl of rice a day

GAAman

Hachiko wrote: »

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overzealous apple fanyboyos will no doubt have this locked within the next few minutes.

This really is a new thing on boards isn't it, try and preempt the mods/posters like that. Almost as annoying as when some wánker says "Wake up people" about water charges/bin charges/chem trails etc etc

Edit: Before you even think it, I have never bought or owned an apple product in my life

Hachiko

Wibbs wrote: »

The fact is H, it's not just Apple. Many of our electronic "fancy goods", never mind our shoes and clothes, are manufactured in exactly the same conditions and often worse. So Apple iPHone Baaad? Where does your Android phone come from? Where do your jeans, your shirts etc come from, the PC you're typing this on?

Well the documentary has clearly shown Apple to pretty much violate every law possible

environmentally friendly company destroying coral reefs
crazy working hours
electrifying workers who sleep
employing younger kids
not interviewing journalists at the HQ

that's just a few!

in fact i think the turkey you will eat soon has had a better time than apple employees.

mad muffin

GAAman wrote: »

This really is a new thing on boards isn't it, try and preempt the mods/posters like that. Almost as annoying as when some wánker says "Wake up people" about water charges/bin charges/chem trails etc etc

Edit: Before you even think it, I have never bought or owned an apple product in my life

buy you fool

vicwatson

Profit of 46 billion and salary to workers 1$ an hour. ah here

mad muffin

Hachiko wrote: »

Well the documentary has clearly shown Apple to pretty much violate every law possible

environmentally friendly company destroying coral reefs
crazy working hours
electrifying workers who sleep
employing younger kids
not interviewing journalists at the HQ

that's just a few!

in fact i think the turkey you will eat soon has had a better time than apple employees.

I don't believe a bit of it…

myshirt

Tail Docker wrote: »

Not. China, Bangladesh, India, Vietnam, possibly. Brazil? No. Are you nuts?

Brazil, yes.

Jesus is not the only thing that is massive over there.

Tail Docker

vicwatson wrote: »

Profit of 46 billion and salary to workers 1$ an hour. ah here

On the upside, they probably have Yale/Harvard grad consultants hired at €1200 a day trying to reduce that figure by 10%...location, Location, Location..

Tail Docker

myshirt wrote: »

Brazil, yes.

Jesus is not the only thing that is massive over there.

Yeah, I'm probably the worst person you could have picked to spin that one on.

NoMore MrNiceGuy

mad muffin wrote: »

It's the Samsung chaebol we should be supporting! DOWN WITH APPLE!!!

LONG LIVE SAMSUNG!!!!!

Samsung. Phones made by unicorns out of stardust.

AnimalChin

OP, I'm sure you've researched the working conditions of the companies who's devices you already own before posting...?

NoMore MrNiceGuy

Hachiko wrote: »

Well the documentary has clearly shown Apple to pretty much violate every law possible

environmentally friendly company destroying coral reefs
crazy working hours
electrifying workers who sleep
employing younger kids
not interviewing journalists at the HQ

that's just a few!

in fact i think the turkey you will eat soon has had a better time than apple employees.

Foxconn isn't Apple.

The BBC is basically a Tabloid these days.

anncoates

Not just Apple surely. How much would a lot of your other luxury items cost if they were not being built at those wages.

NoMore MrNiceGuy

anncoates wrote: »

Not just Apple surely. How much would a lot of your other luxury items cost if they were not bring built at those wages.

In fact Apple is much more likely to investigate its suppliers than the cheap Chinese or Korean manufacturers. Like Samsung.

mrolaf

apple is so exploitative

KungPao

mrolaf wrote: »

apple is so exploitative

That's the core of the problem.

NoMore MrNiceGuy

mrolaf wrote: »

apple is so exploitative

Sent from your $50 Chinese android made by elves.

Lia_lia

NoMore MrNiceGuy wrote: »

Foxconn isn't Apple.

My thoughts on this thread.

fryup

i hope all you shallow materialistic people out there are satisfied

having those poor 3rd world children slave for you and your shallow materialistic needs making your precious iphones

Tail Docker

fryup wrote: »

i hope all you shallow materialistic people out there are satisfied

having those poor 3rd world children slave for you and your shallow materialistic needs making your precious iphones

Shure it keeps them off the streets..

callaway92

Very similar example to the highly publicised Nike issues.

I didn't watch the show but I'd assume, just like Nike, Apple would say that they are not doing anything wrong. They contract Foxconn to do the work for them. That's all they have to do. The rest is up to Foxconn.

Without a huuuuuuuuge backlash against Apple (yeh. . . .) all's not changing!

It's a pity really but that's the way things work sadly.

callaway92

callaway92 wrote: »

Very similar example to the highly publicised Nike issues.

I didn't watch the show but I'd assume, just like Nike, Apple would say that they are not doing anything wrong. They contract Foxconn to do the work for them. That's all they have to do. The rest is up to Foxconn.

Without a huuuuuuuuge backlash against Apple (yeh. . . .) all's not changing!

It's a pity really but that's the way things work sadly.

Only saw the below post now, but ya... basically this:

NoMore MrNiceGuy wrote: »

Foxconn isn't Apple.

mad muffin

Here's a fun fact.

Apple made over $220 billion this year… don't let that stick in your craw.

AnimalChin

mad muffin wrote: »

Here's a fun fact.

Apple made over $220 billion this year… don't let that stick in your craw.

$220,000,000,800. I just bought an iPhone.

Turpentine

GAAman wrote: »

This really is a new thing on boards isn't it, try and preempt the mods/posters like that. Almost as annoying as when some wánker says "Wake up people" about water charges/bin charges/chem trails etc etc

Edit: Before you even think it, I have never bought or owned an apple product in my life

Did you just... preempt poster response...in a post complaining about people preempting poster response?

mad muffin

AnimalChin wrote: »

$220,000,000,800. I just bought an iPhone.

That a boy! 64GB 6 or 16GB 6 Plus?

GAAman

Turpentine wrote: »

Did you just... preempt poster response...in a post complaining about people preempting poster response?

Nope

AnimalChin

mad muffin wrote: »

That a boy! 64GB 6 or 16GB 6 Plus?

I went to edit my post, but I didn't have enough posts to do so...

the rest of it should've read:

I wish, but I'm stuck with my dodgy Nexus 5 for now.

I'm hoping Santa will be very good to me though!!

mad muffin

AnimalChin wrote: »

I went to edit my post, but I didn't have enough posts to do so...

the rest of it should've read:

I wish, but I'm stuck with my dodgy Nexus 5 for now.

I'm hoping Santa will be very good to me though!!

Hachiko

mad muffin wrote: »

That a boy! 64GB 6 or 16GB 6 Plus?

whoop whoop whoop, take your line in the queue sir, 128gb iphone with you soon, kindly wait for your call.

*no kids died in its manufacture.


*may or may not be true

mad muffin

Hachiko wrote: »

whoop whoop whoop, take your line in the queue sir, 128gb iphone with you soon, kindly wait for your call.

*no kids died in its manufacture.


*may or may not be true

It was quite civilised this year with the reservation system. 10 minute wait. Bish, Bosh. Here's your blood iPhone sir.

Highflyer13

Apple dont give a **** about Corporate Social Responsibility. A couple of years ago 170 workers were poisoned in their China factory and zero help came from HQ. A despicable company. Obviously most people don't give a **** and will buy their products anyway.

mad muffin

Highflyer13 wrote: »

Apple dont give a **** about Corporate Social Responsibility. A couple of years ago 170 workers were poisoned in their China factory and zero help came from HQ. A despicable company. Obviously most people don't give a **** and will buy their products anyway.

Absolutely scandalous, Joe…

Hachiko

NoMore MrNiceGuy wrote: »

Sent from your $50 Chinese android made by elves.

that $50 dollar android probably has the same labour costs to the manufacturer as the iphone 6 64GB costing £750.

which shows how easily led apple fanatics are. I have a pen* here I can sell it to ye guys for £70, it will work on the moon, its a very light silver colour and custom patterns are available at extra cost.



*actually its a pencil

Specialun

Working conditions in hollyhill are shocking too

Zonda999

NoMore MrNiceGuy wrote: »

In fact Apple is much more likely to investigate its suppliers than the cheap Chinese or Korean manufacturers. Like Samsung.

Oh yeah, why is that exactly? Is that because they operate off a higher moral standpoint than Samsung or something?

batnolan

Specialun wrote: »

Working conditions in hollyhill are shocking too

You are not seriously comparing the two working conditions?