What is happening with Jurys/Ard Rí Hotel

deadybai

Its being lying idle for years now and is a huge eye sore. I always wondered how it got planning permission in the first place. Sure its beyond repair at this stage. Why can't they demolish it? It really is horrible.

anto9

It reminds me of that monstrocity in Central Dublin ,Liberty Hall . Both need to be demolished .

Trick of the Tail

Should have been razed to the ground years ago. Its a blot on the landscape, an eyesore overlooking the city.

The City Council have the power to demolish is and invoice the owners, but they don't have the guts to do it.

So best to just leave it rot there and make the city look terrible.

wellboytoo

Nothing is the answer,IMO it has a minus value because the cost of taking down the building outweighs the value of the land, and it is a useless deign for a modern hotel .

deadybai

This was uploaded in Jan 2011. Would nearly make you cry. Such a shame to let it go like this. Used to go up there often enough to the hotel and the gym. Looks like something from Chernobyl.

wmpdd3

Is it all still there with just the hoarding on the front? You would think the cost of putting a car around it was more than demolishing it? Maybe not when the rubble had to be removed.

I think it says beautiful location for a hotel.

The_Shotz

deadybai wrote: »

This was uploaded in Jan 2011. Would nearly make you cry. Such a shame to let it go like this. Used to go up there often enough to the hotel and the gym. Looks like something from Chernobyl.

Some venue for a disaster/zombie film!

anto9

For a quick demolition ,get in the old I.R.A .THEY DONE A GREAT JOB WITH NELSONS PILLAR .(though i did not agree with that ,as they could just have took off Nelson himself at the very top .) .

Finnbar01

Wasn't there a castle on that site before? Does anyone know the name of it and any history about it?

freewheeler

Flemings Castle was on the site before being demolished to make way for the hotel i believe...dont know any of its history though.

danjo-xx

I would rather see the old grain mills go first tbh

robtri

danjo-xx wrote: »

I would rather see the old grain mills go first tbh

could not agree more.....
the ard ri now it boarded up doesnt look to bad, the mills are appalling

Shane07

I wouldnt like to see the Ard ri go to be honest,this could have been a landmark building had it not been left go to rack and ruin! It still has amazing views for a hotel which hopefully it can be restored to in time.Deff agree with above posts the North Quays are in a awful condition with parts on the mill starting to fall down now!.Until the Ard ri is sold or whatever happens I think it should have art work painted on it or something rather than just the current white colouring!

anto9

How long is it closed .I lived in Waterford City for several years up to around March 2008 .I think it was still open then ,or not ?

deadybai

anto9 wrote: »

How long is it closed .I lived in Waterford City for several years up to around March 2008 .I think it was still open then ,or not ?

I think it was around that stage. When it closed. Not sure of the exact date. Im 100% it was closed destroyed by 2010 because was a Kilkenny 'Drive for Five' poster painted on the top.

deadybai

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055410375
Here ya go. November 2008 was when this thread was started and from the comments it was smashed up by then.


This article was uploaded in 2010. Says it was closed 4 years then. Not so sure about that
http://www.munster-express.ie/local-news/heartbreak-hotel/

Professey Chin

Closed in 2006 if my debs memories are in tact

deadybai

Professey Chin wrote: »

Closed in 2006 if my debs memories are in tact

Jeanie it doesnt seem that long. The fecking state of it in this photo. Surely its beyond repair.

FestyOSemtex

If only those walls could talk. I'd say there was some load of women rode in that place down through the years.

anto9

It just about signifies the state of the property market in Waterford ,even yet .Wish i had just 30 k to buy an Apartment ,by the river near the peoples park .

The Bowling Alley

If the walls could talk:
"Please...let me die...."

lazeedaisy

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055024491

More chat here,

danjo-xx

lazeedaisy wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055024491

More chat here,

5yr old thread :rolleyes:

lazeedaisy

danjo-xx wrote: »

5yr old thread :rolleyes:

I realise how old it was when I posted :rolleyes, thought it answered some of the questions on dates etc,

If you feel to added nothing to the forum I am happy to take it down, I thought it was interesting,

It's nice to CHAT, I guess you meet all sorts here huh

anto9

The 5 year old post was interesting as if gave a lot more detail ,and gave a time line .Thanks for that .

danjo-xx

The OP asked

What is happening with Jurys/Ard Rí Hotel

It was from this point of view that I rolled my eyes over a 5yr old thread.

This thread like most, went off topic, I stayed on topic.


Anyway hope ye all have a good and safe wan!

lazeedaisy

Pedantic pat,

During the forum other questions were asked, I thought I was offering another perspective,

You win,

I bet it's lonely at the top!

lazeedaisy

To be honest,

In fairness,

Staying on topic and proud,

Not a great award to win,

The best forums go off topic

danjo-xx

lazeedaisy wrote: »

To be honest,

In fairness,

Staying on topic and proud,

Not a great award to win, I'm just following the forum rules and not out to win anything.

The best forums go off topic
So why have mods then!

There are special off topic forums anyway if thats your choice.

Dum_Dum

How in God's name can such a building be left derelict for nearly 10 years in such a prominent situation.

What's wrong with this town? Does anyone give a $hit? Or is everything OK because it's wrapped up in a bit of plastic?

Shane07

I cant understand why they cant let Spraoi or some artists do an art piece on it or something better that just the white box look now! Is it still in Nama or was it bought?

Wanderer78

Dum_Dum wrote: »

How in God's name can such a building be left derelict for nearly 10 years in such a prominent situation.

What's wrong with this town? Does anyone give a $hit? Or is everything OK because it's wrapped up in a bit of plastic?

oh god, don't open pandora's box!

shebzie

This is getting on all of waterford people I'm sorry but in my eyes fall..s back on this current government and strategy as it was promised to destroy plus other things ,waterford is sapose to be getting The people of waterford and other city, s and county's are keeping thing real,.not the lying government and we done way better b4 these


Rant over

Hoffmans

Nama couldn't off load it even with a big brown envelope drop round the city...

wellboytoo

I'd say Dum Dum gave it a lash Saturday night, he had a cut off half the threads on here yesterday morning!

Harry Palmr

Someone needs to go up there will a few can of petrol and creates enough of a fuss that we'll all demand its ripped down.

wmpdd3

As far as I know the whole back of the 'white box' is burnt black with a good while. I think there have been a few attempts to burn it down.

fiachr_a

Why did it close in the first place?

Deise Vu

fiachr_a wrote: »

Why did it close in the first place?

A typical tale of the Tiger. It was a successful hotel, the only one in town capable of hosting national conferences such as the ASTI and the INO which bring a huge spend wherever they go, not too mention local large weddings and dinner dances. Along come developers who look at all the empty green areas and think, why don't we buy this successful business, close the existing premises and get planning permission for an enormous hotel / conference centre / apartment blocks / assorted commercial units.

The MCEniffs were made an offer they couldn't refuse, the Hotel was closed and grandiose plans drawn up. Tiger dies, developer can't finance, Hotel falls into disrepair. An absolute tragedy for the City in terms of jobs and outside spend, never mind the eyesore.

cococoady

How much are they selling the hotel / site for?

obezyana

That hotel was in need of desperate tlc even before it was closed down. It was falling apart. It is a shame its gone it had great views of the town. It always was an eyesore and until its knocked it always will be. A nice upper class housing estate up there would be nice.

Deise Hurler

Should be bought and linked up with north quays development. Make the whole lot a park with a walkway over the dual carriageway and another walkway over the river. Put a cafe up the top
where the hotel was. Artificial ski slope on part of the hill. Cable car going like the ones in Barcelona from the top of the hill over to the Viking triangle. Might sound a bit far fetched but would be great for attracting tourists to Waterford and there is great opportunity through tourism for Waterford.

JourneyMan8

some interesting idea's but agree with the last comment, think whatever goes in its place has to go toward generating tourism, the perfect place to build something crazy to attract, then get the shopping centre up and running off the back of it.

obezyana

Yep anything up there tourist related could be the way to go but sorry about being the negative one, id reckon nothing positive from the council or government will ever be done up there.

A private group/developer will get the go ahead to build another ghost estate or retail complex. Obviously I could be talking out of my arse but given the nature of planning regs in this country i wouldnt be one bit surprised if that was to happen.

MRnotlob606

Ah many a day me and the lack used to go up there drinking cans of lilt and devouring packets of "banshees bones" I used to recite Julius Caesar in the voice of Richard nixon."Hence, home you idle creatures get you home!. I will shed some tears when this beautiful building is knocked, it is magnificently perched over city, keeping an eye on us.Oh I feel so much nostalgia permeate through my feeble john's Park body.I long to once again have a tryst with my lady friend, with a paper brown bag over her face as I perform lascivious acts on her genitals.

Dum_Dum

Dum_Dum wrote: »

How in God's name can such a building be left derelict for nearly 10 years in such a prominent situation.

What's wrong with this town? Does anyone give a $hit? Or is everything OK because it's wrapped up in a bit of plastic?

Now 13 years. Crane count in Dublin is 117.

Wanderer78

Dum_Dum wrote:

Now 13 years. Crane count in Dublin is 117.

Surely that can't be good for Dublin

Dum_Dum

Dum_Dum wrote: »

Now 13 years. Crane count in Dublin is 117.

Now 14 years.

azimuth17

A row between two Kilkenny families in court apparently over who actually owns it. Disgraceful condition.

Harry Palmr

Is that related to this case https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5da061fb4653d07dedfd6d89

azimuth17

My understanding is that judgement was against Tracy's so they have appealed?
Am open to correction. Dreadful anyway, the site is a blight on the city and a deterrent to investment, as indeed is the Ferrybank centre. How many people really realise the latter is in Co Kilkenny, permissioned by them, and nothing to do with Waterford City planning?