Conspiracy Time. What are your theories.

Xios

What sort of silly narratives/conspiracies do you formulate to yourself?

For example;
I think the current collapse of the Russian Economy has been engineered by the US, EU and China to dismatle the Russian Federation so that they can gain access to the vast reserves of natural resources within the states borders.

EU is gonna get western russia, China will get the Center and the U.S. will get the far east and call it New Alaska. This has likely been a plan long in the making, with the first moves being the destabilisation of the Ukrainian state and the implementation of agents to encourage the seperatist actions that Russia would be oblidged to protect to maintain the image of protecting their own citizens.

**This theory does ignore the invasion of Crimea, that didn't happen, shhh**

The_Valeyard

I do believe there is whole forum dedicated to this, but its secretly controlled by the illumintati mods who want to create a new world order.

Sheep Lover

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I do believe there is whole forum dedicated to this, but its secretly controlled by the illumintati mods who want to create a new world order.

For the Zionist Lizard people of course.

Xios

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I do believe there is whole forum dedicated to this, but its secretly controlled by the illumintati mods who want to create a new world order.

Only found this out now
But I think that is for serious debate, not for stupid silly ideas.

Magico Gonzalez

I believe the OP has been sent from the future to wreck my head.

Beano

Xios wrote: »

Only found this out now
But I think that is for serious debate, not for stupid silly ideas.

you should have a read of it before making comments like that.

endacl

Xios wrote: »

Only found this out now
But I think that is for serious debate, not for stupid silly ideas.

No. It's for stupid silly ideas.

magma69

I think it's plausible drug lords have the political clout to keep drugs illegal thus protecting their enterprise. There's just too much money in the illegal drug business to have no influence on policy making. We're talking over 300 billion dollars each year generated in this trade.

Jawgap

Xios wrote: »

What sort of silly narratives/conspiracies do you formulate to yourself?

For example;
I think the current collapse of the Russian Economy has been engineered by the US, EU and China to dismatle the Russian Federation so that they can gain access to the vast reserves of natural resources within the states borders.

EU is gonna get western russia, China will get the Center and the U.S. will get the far east and call it New Alaska. This has likely been a plan long in the making, with the first moves being the destabilisation of the Ukrainian state and the implementation of agents to encourage the seperatist actions that Russia would be oblidged to protect to maintain the image of protecting their own citizens.

**This theory does ignore the invasion of Crimea, that didn't happen, shhh**

Nope - its down to the Saudis who are trying to screw the Iranians by turning on the oil taps - the Russians because of western sanctions are just collateral damage in all this. They're also relatively well insulated - they've a cushion of about 10 months of foreign currency reserved.

Once the Iranians get the message about staying the fúck on their side of the Gulf and once the Saudis have driven a few more shale oil/gas producers out of business ($80 per barrel is their breakeven), they'll turn off the taps and we'll be back to $100 a barrel oil.

endacl

Jawgap wrote: »

Once the Iranians get the message about staying the fúck on their side of the Gulf and once the Saudis have driven a few more shale oil/gas producers out of business ($80 per barrel is their breakeven), they'll turn off the taps and we'll be back to $100 a barrel oil.

Potatoeman

I like the one where its claimed the US bombed themselves at Pearl Harbour to drum up support for entry into the war as public opinion was for neutrality. Its put forward that the carriers were not in port for their strategic value and why the Japanese fleet was not picked up on radar. Also why they didnt destroy the oil reseves there too.

jimgoose

Jawgap wrote: »

...they'll turn off the taps and we'll be back to $100 a barrel oil.

...at which point North American shale becomes financially viable again, increasing world supply. So the Saudis panic again, and start slapping around any poor twonk within slapping distance, and all these asshole countries like Russia and Iran and Venezuela will be left reeling and lurching hither-and-yon into the future while Western Europe and the U.S. enjoy relatively stable, controlled oil prices. All is well under Heaven, exactly as predicted and engineered by evil genius Nicola Tesla. Hell yeah!! :cool:

Hoop66

Jawgap wrote: »

Nope - its down to the Saudis who are trying to screw the Iranians by turning on the oil taps - the Russians because of western sanctions are just collateral damage in all this. They're also relatively well insulated - they've a cushion of about 10 months of foreign currency reserved.

Once the Iranians get the message about staying the fúck on their side of the Gulf and once the Saudis have driven a few more shale oil/gas producers out of business ($80 per barrel is their breakeven), they'll turn off the taps and we'll be back to $100 a barrel oil.

This. Particularly the US "fracking" producers. Once these guys, who are all leveraged to the hilt, are put out of business by cheap oil, the Saudis have their power back.

Jawgap

jimgoose wrote: »

...at which point North American shale becomes financially viable again, increasing world supply. So the Saudis panic again, and start slapping around any poor twonk within slapping distance, and all these asshole countries like Russia and Iran and Venezuela will be left reeling and lurching hither-and-yon into the future while Western Europe and the U.S. enjoy relatively stable, controlled oil prices. All is well under Heaven, exactly as predicted and engineered by evil genius Nicola Tesla. Hell yeah!! :cool:

The Saudis aren't panicking - they've been very considered about this and have been very frank about the foreign currency reserves they've built up.

Their main target is Iran - the message is "we can keep this up for the next 18 months, we don't need high prices like you."

The 'attack' on US producers is secondary but there is some feeling that when oil goes back up, not as many will come back on stream because if the Saudis did it once, they can do it again - some investors won't want that uncertainty.

AboutaWeekAgo

Marty Morrissey is a lizard

Xios

Xios wrote: »

What sort of silly narratives/conspiracies do you formulate to yourself?

None any more. But the Truman Show pretty much entirely reflected a weird feeling I had in my life around the age of 15. It actually felt like the writers of the film had climbed into my head and taken the entire plot of the film of the mild delusions I was having at the time.

bear1

Xios wrote: »

What sort of silly narratives/conspiracies do you formulate to yourself?

For example;
I think the current collapse of the Russian Economy has been engineered by the US, EU and China to dismatle the Russian Federation so that they can gain access to the vast reserves of natural resources within the states borders.

EU is gonna get western russia, China will get the Center and the U.S. will get the far east and call it New Alaska. This has likely been a plan long in the making, with the first moves being the destabilisation of the Ukrainian state and the implementation of agents to encourage the seperatist actions that Russia would be oblidged to protect to maintain the image of protecting their own citizens.

**This theory does ignore the invasion of Crimea, that didn't happen, shhh**

China hasn't sanctioned Russia, in fact they are both making deals with each other.
Don't see China wanting their land.

JaseBelleVie

The old classics are the best. All of the mentality surrounding the Kennedy Assassination, 9/11, the CIA and all that. They're the best ones.

Joe prim

Pretty sure our milk man has substituted the old hard to open cartons with so-called "one-click" cartons , in order to weaken everyone's muscles so that we will be unable to resist when we are invaded, possibly by giant daddy long legs from outer space!

I like the Scott Westerfeld Film Plot idea: 97% of the world's scientists contrive an environmental crisis, but are exposed by a plucky band of billionaires & oil companies.

nullzero

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I do believe there is whole forum dedicated to this, but its secretly controlled by the illumintati mods who want to create a new world order.

That type of comment is typical of this forum. Everyone knows the conspiracy theories forum is moderated by reverse vampires.

JaseBelleVie

Joe prim wrote: »

Pretty sure our milk man has substituted the old hard to open cartons with so-called "one-click" cartons , in order to weaken everyone's muscles so that we will be unable to resist when we are invaded, possibly by giant daddy long legs from outer space!

I hope it wasn't UHT milk, because that's sh*te.

smcgiff

AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »

Marty Morrissey is a lizard

We're discussing theories here, not known facts.

KomradeBishop

The CIA conspired to invent the term 'conspiracy theory', as a way to discredit political views they disagree with :pac:

Birneybau

AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »

Marty Morrissey is a lizard

Worse, a lounge lizard.

Tail Docker

That "they" are out to get us. And probably will, eventually.

conspiracycat

You're all wrong!

http://vimeo.com/48904663

BuilderPlumber

I think overall it all is about the West v Russia. China is kind of there too loosely aligned to Russia but also there for the West. Sitting on the fences perhaps. Anyhow, the likes of Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Iran are all proxies for both who want to control them. The US clearly has Saudi and Iraq remains a mess but Russia was aligned to the others in the past but we all know the US is doing its best to get these too.

I believe too that both sets of superpowers want to keep others out. Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia are potential superpowers if their economies were more advanced. Iran and Iraq got closest in the late 1970s but revolutions and wars conveniently came their ways and set them back 100 years. Saudi Arabia remains a 100% petrostate and money is not really rolled into its economy and is only shared among an elite. Royals and big businesses. The superpowers like to get their oil from these and make themselves rich.

BuilderPlumber

I responded to the political ones above (they all resolve around wars to make one country rich at the expense of another). But the conspiracy theories I enjoy most are the Elvis is alive ones.

Can anyone point me towards some recent good ones. Elvis is 80 in January too so we are bound to here some newbies here !!

joe stodge

One of the mods in the airsoft section is ment to be an "Irish army ranger" and the rest of the mods ban anyone who questions this. Seems a bit of a mad one.

endacl

joe stodge wrote: »

One of the mods in the airsoft section is ment to be an "Irish army ranger" and the rest of the mods ban anyone who questions this. Seems a bit of a mad one.

Why would an actual soldier be bothered with grown ups who's hobby (not 'sport' ) is dressing up and playing soldiers?

:pac:

joe stodge

endacl wrote: »

Why would an actual soldier be bothered with grown ups who's hobby (not 'sport' ) is dressing up and playing soldiers?

:pac:

Go ask, watch what happens.

endacl

joe stodge wrote: »

Go ask, watch what happens.

No thanks. They'll shoot me with their little plastic dots.

BuilderPlumber

Another 'conspiracy theory' is the 'people planted in our lives' one. This could be to spy on us, test us, see what our reaction in certain situations is, etc.

Yes, I have had 4 almost identical so-called friends in my life one after another, seemingly unrelated but who pretend to be nice at first and then for no reason turn nasty. However, I believe this is more to do with paranoid issues they have and me being the only person to be kind to them than any CT.

Birneybau

Biggins was perma-banned for knowing too much.

endacl

Birneybau wrote: »

Biggins was perma-banned for knowing too much.

Funny. I never got a sense of that from his posts...

:pac:

braddun

north korea is hacking sony to get them to cancel the movie attacking the great leader

Capt'n Midnight

joe stodge wrote: »

One of the mods in the airsoft section is ment to be an "Irish army ranger" and the rest of the mods ban anyone who questions this. Seems a bit of a mad one.

you misheard

"He's Irish an 'e supports Rangers"

smurfjed

Saudi Arabia remains a 100% petrostate and money is not really rolled into its economy and is only shared among an elite

Are you sure of this?

Jawgap, what exactly did Saudi Arabia do to create this price drop? Its not as if they massively increased their production.

Hoop66

smurfjed wrote: »

Are you sure of this?

Jawgap, what exactly did Saudi Arabia do to create this price drop? Its not as if they massively increased their production.

Not only have they increased production - by 0.2m barrels/day in October, but they have also cut crude price for 4 months in a row.

corner of hells

joe stodge wrote: »

One of the mods in the airsoft section is ment to be an "Irish army ranger" and the rest of the mods ban anyone who questions this. Seems a bit of a mad one.

Is he the mod with herd of unicorns ?

smurfjed

11,725.68 (2013) 11,600.35 (2014)

http://www.eia.gov/countries/country-data.cfm?fips=SA These figures from the US Energy Information Administration show that their production has gone down!

2,861.00 (2013) 2,925.00 (2014)

Their own consumption has also gone up.

So the amount that they are releasing to the market appears to be less.

looksee

I think I have already been got at by aliens. Any time I read or hear anything about economics or oil supplies or Russia/China//USA politics my brain goes kinda mushy and floaty and I cannot follow it. Obviously I have the secrets to world peace and prosperity locked up in there and aliens (or the CIA) have implanted me with something to stop me sorting out all the problems of the world.

Edit - my brain even went fuzzy trying to type that, otherwise it would have been a coherent and well constructed sentence.

endacl

looksee wrote: »

I think I have already been got at by aliens. Any time I read or hear anything about economics or oil supplies or Russia/China//USA politics my brain goes kinda mushy and floaty and I cannot follow it. Obviously I have the secrets to world peace and prosperity locked up in there and aliens (or the CIA) have implanted me with something to stop me sorting out all the problems of the world.

Edit - my brain even went fuzzy trying to type that, otherwise it would have been a coherent and well constructed sentence.

The Diabolical Monocle

I sometimes think that the economic crash was designed by the US to kill the euro ... theyd take a hit in the short term too, but in the long term one less competitor. Any future attempt at euro currency 2.0 would be shouted down by critics pointing at the earlier fail. Conclusive proof of the conspiracy is no euro sign on many keyboards.


but no...maybe not.
requires work.

Saipanne

I think that 9/11 was orchestrated by Islamist elements of the lower echelons of the Saudi royal family. The Bush administration was aware of this, but given the close ties between the Bush's and the Saudi King, and the strategic importance of Saudi to the US, they colluded to blame it on Bin Laden, et all, and being opportunists, decided to rope Iraq into the blame for the oil.

Basically I think the reported version and typical CT version of this event are both fantasies.

the dark phantom

The Iran-Contra conspiracy is something else, Sandinistas, School of the Americas, Oliver North, George H W Bush, Barry Seal, Jeb And George W Bush, Mena Airbase, Crack Cocaine, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Whitewater, Weapon smuggling, Columbian Cali cartel, BCCI Bank, Arkansas Development Finance Authority, CIA..

BuilderPlumber

Saipanne wrote: »

I think that 9/11 was orchestrated by Islamist elements of the lower echelons of the Saudi royal family. The Bush administration was aware of this, but given the close ties between the Bush's and the Saudi King, and the strategic importance of Saudi to the US, they colluded to blame it on Bin Laden, et all, and being opportunists, decided to rope Iraq into the blame for the oil.

Basically I think the reported version and typical CT version of this event are both fantasies.

That's precisely it. bin Laden family are among the Saudi royals' associates as well and Osama was the black sheep (the rest of the family were friends of Bush associates). Saudi Arabia was one of few countries (all official US allies: UA Emirates and Pakistan being the only others) to recognise the 1996-2001 Afghan regime that was to all intents and purposes controlled by Osama bin Laden. bin Laden was tied into it surely but he was not the real leader as he was working for the lower, embittered elements of the royal family.

BuilderPlumber

the dark phantom wrote: »

The Iran-Contra conspiracy is something else, Sandinistas, School of the Americas, Oliver North, George H W Bush, Barry Seal, Jeb And George W Bush, Mena Airbase, Crack Cocaine, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Whitewater, Weapon smuggling, Columbian Cali cartel, BCCI Bank, Arkansas Development Finance Authority, CIA..

Iran-Contra showed up the devious true relations between the US and other places. The Revolutionary Guards regime of Iran was supposedly a US 'enemy' but was in power 9 years by this time and is still in power today. This does NOT happen real enemies of the West, who are turfed out very quickly. The RGs regime was allowed to remain in power since 1979 because the US found and finds it useful or have no alternative to replace it.

Why is the RG regime in Iran useful? Because it is not very intelligent (other than the presidency and elected parts which has given us intelligent people like Khatami and the current president) and is fractured by infighting and thus prevents another superpower (Iran lead by an intelligent and unfractured government would with its resources rise very high) forming. Also, RGs are a bulwark against Sunni extremism and of course originally Soviet comm.

The whole Iran-Iraq war was a bonanza for arms industry. The US arms industry of course supplied both sides. The aim was to keep 2 would be superpowers fighting forever and making the backyard of the USSR unstable.

The Contras were a drug dealing rebel group fighting against, you guessed it, communists in Central America. Iranian money was laundered to these on the quiet.

All this embarrassed Reagan's government and I noticed that after that, Reagan's regime when 180 degree turn from hardline to very very moderate overnight!! He even kissed and made up with the 'evil empire' as he called the USSR.

the dark phantom

Reagan assassination attempt, Any fool could see it for what it was. Even an 8th grader figured it out at the time..

degrassinoel

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I do believe there is whole forum dedicated to this, but its secretly controlled by the illumintati mods who want to create a new world order.

All of this is true.