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**Carbon Monoxide Awareness**

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    Unashamedly lifted from Y.L.Y.L.

    She was joking though :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    Unashamedly lifted from Y.L.Y.L.

    She was joking though :)

    Unfortunately I had a similar situation today
    Got a call to a house CO alarm was sounding
    Tenant told me it was sounding on and off for the last few days but was going mad today so he took it down
    I was wearing my personal CO alarm it started going off
    The fire was lit
    I told the tenant to put out the fire open windows and doors he Refused
    I told him again he told he would take his chances and showed me to the door


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Robbie.G wrote: »
    Unfortunately I had a similar situation today
    Got a call to a house CO alarm was sounding
    Tenant told me it was sounding on and off for the last few days but was going mad today so he took it down
    I was wearing my personal CO alarm it started going off
    The fire was lit
    I told the tenant to put out the fire open windows and doors he Refused
    I told him again he told he would take his chances and showed me to the door

    It was said here before it only a proper cnut would act like that when you try to help them


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭anthonyos


    Robbie.G wrote: »
    Unfortunately I had a similar situation today
    Got a call to a house CO alarm was sounding
    Tenant told me it was sounding on and off for the last few days but was going mad today so he took it down
    I was wearing my personal CO alarm it started going off
    The fire was lit
    I told the tenant to put out the fire open windows and doors he Refused
    I told him again he told he would take his chances and showed me to the door

    What do you do then would you call bg networks


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,235 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wearb


    Robbie.G wrote: »
    Unfortunately I had a similar situation today
    Got a call to a house CO alarm was sounding
    Tenant told me it was sounding on and off for the last few days but was going mad today so he took it down
    I was wearing my personal CO alarm it started going off
    The fire was lit
    I told the tenant to put out the fire open windows and doors he Refused
    I told him again he told he would take his chances and showed me to the door

    FFS Robbie. I would call the fire brigade and let them decide what to do then.

    Stupid f er

    Please follow site and charter rules. "Resistance is futile"



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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    anthonyos wrote: »
    What do you do then would you call bg networks

    Was an open fire. Not gas I think


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    anthonyos wrote: »
    What do you do then would you call bg networks

    It was a council house so all I could do was to contact the housing engineer and tell them
    They contacted him and he was not really any better with them he just kept going on that the neighbor got a stove and why didn't he
    That tells you the mentality of some people
    And plenty of empty Dutch gold cans around


  • Registered Users Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Tom44


    I have stopped trying to save the world and now concentrate on those who appericate been saved.
    You did the right call Robbie .

    With gas, you can legaly disconnect appliances and have back up.
    With oil you don't have that, but I have cut wires before, I'd sooner be done for vandalism than have the consequences.
    With solid fuel we don't have that liberty.


    Last wires cut was 3 week's ago. Customer rang asking where she would get a new co alarm as the old one keeps going off. :confused:


    Or if I hear again, "yes we must get one as we now have a baby" !!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,272 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Just on this topic, are there recent regs for the CO alarms, was on a social call in two houses last week where they were being fitted, I did'nt ask why as not my fight.
    Thanks

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Just on this topic, are there recent regs for the CO alarms, was on a social call in two houses last week where they were being fitted, I did'nt ask why as not my fight.
    Thanks

    As from September 2 years ago a CO
    Alarm must be fitted with a new boiler install
    And 1 within 3 mtrs of the bedrooms afaik


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Tom44 wrote: »
    I have stopped trying to save the world and now concentrate on those who appericate been saved.
    You did the right call Robbie .

    Thanks Michael


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    Robbie.G wrote: »
    As from September 2 years ago a CO
    Alarm must be fitted with a new boiler install
    And 1 within 3 mtrs of the bedrooms afaik

    I've just had a gas boiler fitted in a bathroom. Does the alarm need to be in the bathroom or will outside the bathroom door in the hall work?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Effects wrote: »
    I've just had a gas boiler fitted in a bathroom. Does the alarm need to be in the bathroom or will outside the bathroom door in the hall work?

    Ideally it should be in the same room
    Personally I wouldn't fit a boiler in a bathroom as there are a lot of things to consider regarding electrics and zones


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    Robbie.G wrote: »
    Ideally it should be in the same room
    Personally I wouldn't fit a boiler in a bathroom as there are a lot of things to consider regarding electrics and zones

    It was originally supposed to be under the stairs until the plumber said it can't go under the stairs for safety regs. It then went on the wall behind which is in the bathroom. The co alarms haven't been wired in to the rest of the heat and smoke detectors.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Effects wrote: »
    It was originally supposed to be under the stairs until the plumber said it can't go under the stairs for safety regs. It then went on the wall behind which is in the bathroom. The co alarms haven't been wired in to the rest of the heat and smoke detectors.

    Is it rather under the stairs than in the bathroom
    Due to the current electrical regs I don't think it's permissible in the bathroom
    I could be wrong though


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Effects wrote: »
    It was originally supposed to be under the stairs until the plumber said it can't go under the stairs for safety regs. It then went on the wall behind which is in the bathroom. The co alarms haven't been wired in to the rest of the heat and smoke detectors.

    What's wrong with it under the stairs?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    What's wrong with it under the stairs?
    If it goes on fire it burns the only exit from upstairs.
    Robbie.G wrote: »
    Due to the current electrical regs I don't think it's permissible in the bathroom
    I could be wrong though

    I presume it's far enough away from the zones of the sink and the bath so probably fine. Electrician was annoyed about me wanting a 5 amp socket under a standard socket, that someone in wheelchair wouldn't be able plug a lamp in and out. I'd hope he was as thoughtful about electric shock in a bathroom!


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Effects wrote: »
    If it goes on fire it burns the only exit from upstairs.



    I presume it's far enough away from the zones of the sink and the bath so probably fine. Electrician was annoyed about me wanting a 5 amp socket under a standard socket, that someone in wheelchair wouldn't be able plug a lamp in and out. I'd hope he was as thoughtful about electric shock in a bathroom!

    I may check the gas regs. Never heard of that one before


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭DGOBS


    You can install a boiler in a bathroom within gas regs, just not in zone 1&2, spur etc will have to be outside the room though.
    CO alarms are not for bathrooms as will not cope with the moisture, so directly outside the bathroom at high level (above windows and door height) read the intrusions completely for correct placement.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    Boiler is outside zone 2. Spur is just below the boiler though.
    I'll make sure the co alarm goes outside the bathroom door so.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Had a look at regs and can't find anything about not putting a boiler under a stairs


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    DGOBS wrote: »
    You can install a boiler in a bathroom within gas regs, just not in zone 1&2, spur etc will have to be outside the room though.
    CO alarms are not for bathrooms as will not cope with the moisture, so directly outside the bathroom at high level (above windows and door height) read the intrusions completely for correct placement.

    I personally wouldn't fit a boiler in one
    Under the current electrical
    Regs only a rec can legally work on any electrics in a bathroom
    Where does that stand


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    The architect and engineer wanted to move the stud in order to keep the boiler under the stairs. It would have been too much work and extra cost. Maybe it was just the mechanical engineer airing on the side of caution.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Effects wrote: »
    The architect and engineer wanted to move the stud in order to keep the boiler under the stairs. It would have been too much work and extra cost. Maybe it was just the mechanical engineer airing on the side of caution.

    W1qtSal.png
    That's no problem. Your plumber shouldn't be making up regs though


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭DGOBS


    Restrictions would be if the house was more than 2 storey or multi-occupancy (like B&B for example) only other restriction is the requirement for a smoke alarm in that area.

    If it was me, and a new build, would fire rate the compartment internally.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭mikeysmith


    Hi
    I bought a kidde co alarm for the room with the solid fuel stove and another for outside the bedrooms upstairs.

    The alarm seems to be wall mounting and it says not to lie it flat( if free- standing on a Table)

    Does that mean I can't mount it on the ceiling in the room with the stove ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    mikeysmith wrote: »
    Hi
    I bought a kidde co alarm for the room with the solid fuel stove and another for outside the bedrooms upstairs.

    The alarm seems to be wall mounting and it says not to lie it flat( if free- standing on a Table)

    Does that mean I can't mount it on the ceiling in the room with the stove ?

    No it's perfectly fine to fit it on the ceiling
    That's what it's designed for


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭mikeysmith




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    mikeysmith wrote: »

    They are wall or ceiling mount
    What it means by not lying flat is the sensors would be in the wrong position


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭mikeysmith


    Thanks, and the alarm outside the bedrooms should I fit that at eye level?


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