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MotoGP 2015 News & Chat

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    #722
    Bohrio
    Registered Users Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭Bohrio


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Lorenzo on Spanish TV after the race.



    So there you have it.


    Saying that Lorenzo didnt deserve it much as I hate him is not fair

    Now, I think Rossi brought this on himself with all his accusations etc. I dont know what I would have done in his place, Marquez even got beaten up but Italian journalist at his house a couple of weeks ago.

    And before their incident and before the whole thing started remember that Marquez overtook Lorenzo on the last lap of the Australian GP... thats didnt help Lorenzo with his Championship... if they were teamed up he would have never done this.

    It is a shame seeing Rossi like this, saying things like this years championship is not a real championship etc. Focusing on Marquez like he has been doing for the last 3 weeks instead of focusing on the race. Exactly as his incident with Marquez a couple of weeks ago where his focus was on him instead of the race. Keeps complaining about Marquez not trying to overtake Lorenzo and forgets to mention how Petrucci and Dovizioso let him pass...

    But people see what they want to see.

    Can't wait for next season... years ago Rossi didnt need to build all this spectacle to get attention, he was simply a God, but he knows he is not what he use to be (which is obvious he is 35). he needs to rethink his strategy for next year.


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    #723
    h3000
    Registered Users Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    Scotty # wrote: »
    They know exactly how many subscriptions they've sold. They should make sure they have the infrastructure in place to handle them.
    In general they should but I think a huge amount of people bought a one race pass for Valencia in the last few days, there was a lot of people watching this weekend who normally don't.

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    #724
    Scotty #
    Registered Users Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    Max Headroom wrote: »
    OR...1st loser medal...........:)

    At the end of the day Rossi showed his true colours in Sepang, his "win or die trying" attitude throughout his career was always there waiting to air its ugly head....its probably the reason MM admired and emulates him .
    But for all his experiance he couldnt help himself and messed up surely his last chance of a world championship..

    That's just it though. We've watched MM risking it all for the win so many times before, it's what makes him so exciting to watch, but yesterday he didn't try once, not once, in the whole race! I watched the last 5 or 6 laps from the heli cam and it was like someone else was on his bike.

    I reckon by the time MM's career is finished, this seasons antics will have cost him many millions in lost sponsorship and fan merchandise. Dani Pedrosa on the other hand, I think has earned a lot of new fans with his attitude and comments over the last couple of weeks. It was interesting actually yesterday that he was the only one of the three on the podium who's name the crowd were chanting. The other two were booed.


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    #725
    Scotty #
    Registered Users Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    Max Headroom wrote: »
    Watched all the races on CRICFREE...didnt freeze for more than a couple of seconds a few times...ok it wasnt HD but it cost me nothing ..
    But if we all did that there would be no MotoGP.


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    #726
    Harika
    Registered Users Posts: 4,411 ✭✭✭Harika


    Scotty # wrote: »
    But if we all did that there would be no MotoGP.

    Nah there is still ad/other financed versions all over the world. Germany had Sport1, Eurosport Austria has Sport+ and so on. Ireland and UK are one of the examples where you have to pay to see advertisement. So I doubt that if everyone would avoid paytv we would see MotoGP disappearing, but what we would see would be a down scaling of it, as with less TV money there is less money to spend by the teams. FIM has here already taken good measures in place to reduce costs further, so I wouldn't worry about that.


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    #727
    Arne_Saknussem
    Registered Users Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Arne_Saknussem


    Bohrio wrote: »
    Saying that Lorenzo didnt deserve it much as I hate him is not fair

    Now, I think Rossi brought this on himself with all his accusations etc. I dont know what I would have done in his place, Marquez even got beaten up but Italian journalist at his house a couple of weeks ago.

    And before their incident and before the whole thing started remember that Marquez overtook Lorenzo on the last lap of the Australian GP... thats didnt help Lorenzo with his Championship... if they were teamed up he would have never done this.

    It is a shame seeing Rossi like this, saying things like this years championship is not a real championship etc. Focusing on Marquez like he has been doing for the last 3 weeks instead of focusing on the race. Exactly as his incident with Marquez a couple of weeks ago where his focus was on him instead of the race. Keeps complaining about Marquez not trying to overtake Lorenzo and forgets to mention how Petrucci and Dovizioso let him pass...

    But people see what they want to see.

    Can't wait for next season... years ago Rossi didnt need to build all this spectacle to get attention, he was simply a God, but he knows he is not what he use to be (which is obvious he is 35). he needs to rethink his strategy for next year.

    Bull****. 2 Italian members of a satire show showed up at Marquez's place with a 'trophy' in the shape of a giant cock for him. It was the Marquez's who got physical and took the camera, smashed it and robbed the tape.

    They didn't realise that there was a memory card still in it for audio though when they gave the camera back in pieces. They weren't beaten up at all, that was spin.


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    #728
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Arne_Saknussem wrote: »
    Bull****. 2 Italian members of a satire show showed up at Marquez's place with a 'trophy' in the shape of a giant cock for him. It was the Marquez's who got physical and took the camera, smashed it and robbed the tape.

    They didn't realise that there was a memory card still in it for audio though when they gave the camera back in pieces. They weren't beaten up at all, that was spin.

    Im sorry, but that is brilliant.


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    #729
    Arne_Saknussem
    Registered Users Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Arne_Saknussem


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Im sorry, but that is brilliant.

    Yep, i thought the same :D


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    #730
    gibbon75
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    I just hope that the new Michelin tyres won't suit Lorenzo's stupid 250cc riding style.
    I think Dani will be a monster next year on those tyres and I hope he'll put MM to his place.

    But we will know more tomorrow evening...


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    #731
    Arne_Saknussem
    Registered Users Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Arne_Saknussem


    What's happening tomorrow evening?


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    #732
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    What is the characteristics then of the new rubber?


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    #733
    Pugzilla
    Site Banned Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭Pugzilla


    Arne_Saknussem wrote: »
    What's happening tomorrow evening?

    Testing begins


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    #734
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Gintonious wrote: »
    What is the characteristics then of the new rubber?

    Apparently the opposite of the Bridgestone. The Michelin has great rear grip but not so good front grip. Having said that, they were tested on 2015 bikes. Obviously next years bikes will be tweaked to suit.


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    #735
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Apparently the opposite of the Bridgestone. The Michelin has great rear grip but not so good front grip. Having said that, they were tested on 2015 bikes. Obviously next years bikes will be tweaked to suit.

    Interesting, I guess its all new territory for the riders.


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    #736
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Interesting, I guess its all new territory for the riders.

    One thing I'm not sure of, is if the 2016 bikes are being tested tomorrow too. Does anyone know?


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    #737
    Arne_Saknussem
    Registered Users Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Arne_Saknussem


    pablo128 wrote: »
    One thing I'm not sure of, is if the 2016 bikes are being tested tomorrow too. Does anyone know?

    Haven't heard either way but it would be very soon to have the 2016 bike up and running this early no? Especially with the new software rules etc that are coming in for next year?


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    #738
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,103 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Poor qualifying hurt Rossi this season badly. He was usually much further down the grid than his race pace would indicate. If he can make the Michelins work for him in qualifying then he has a chance next year. I wouldn't mind if Dani won a title though... he's had awful luck with injuries and getting caught up in other riders' accidents during his career.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #739
    Harika
    Registered Users Posts: 4,411 ✭✭✭Harika


    pablo128 wrote: »
    One thing I'm not sure of, is if the 2016 bikes are being tested tomorrow too. Does anyone know?

    Don't know about the 2016 machines, but I guess it will be hybrid machines, but more importantly they will test the new tires from Michelin. Until now they used Pirelli.


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    #740
    h3000
    Registered Users Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    Most seem to be testing the tyres on 2015 bikes to get a back to back comparison. Maybe they will throw the 16 bikes for a few laps tomorrow though.

    I think Suzuki, Ducati and Aprillia only have the 15 bikes with them. Not too sure about the others yet.

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    #741
    h3000
    Registered Users Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    Yamaha have said they started testing with Sunday's race bikes and will switch to the 2016 bikes later in the test.

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    #742
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Harika wrote: »
    Don't know about the 2016 machines, but I guess it will be hybrid machines, but more importantly they will test the new tires from Michelin. Until now they used Pirelli.
    Pirelli are WSBK/BSB spec tyres, Bridgestone was the MotoGP Spec tyre.


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    #743
    DaveD
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭DaveD


    It seems there's been quite a few front end crashes today. Miller, Rabat, Iannone, both Espargaros, Crutchlow, Laverty, Bradl, Marquez & Vinales have apparently all crashed.

    This is a good site to keeep up to date with the testing... testing times are there too.

    https://motomatters.com/


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    #744
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Marquez crashed on his second lap. Long may it continue.


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    #745
    h3000
    Registered Users Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    Rabat done 84 laps today. The man is a machine.

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    #746
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    The new Hondas and Yamahas got their runs in today. I am not sure if they are running 2016 software yet.

    Feedback so far was the rear has lots of grip but the fronts, at least today, were slipping.


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    #747
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    h3000 wrote: »
    Rabat done 84 laps today. The man is a machine.
    He is fast but I don't think he has the ultimate speed necessary on Moto2 machines, how he fares on the 1000's may be different.


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    #748
    h3000
    Registered Users Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    A good read here folks on the weekend.

    https://twitter.com/matoxley/status/664124220713140224


    http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/what-really-happened-in-valencia/

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    #749
    h3000
    Registered Users Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    He is fast but I don't think he has the ultimate speed necessary on Moto2 machines, how he fares on the 1000's may be different.

    It's hard to know how well he will do alright. I hope he will be fast.

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    Scotty #
    Registered Users Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    DaveD wrote: »
    It seems there's been quite a few front end crashes today...

    Most started today on the 2015 bike with a Michelin front. If they only change one thing at a time it's easier to see what's working and what's not. Lots of falls but to know where the limit is, you have to cross it.


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    #751
    h3000
    Registered Users Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    Apparently so far the rear grip is better and the front worse. I'd imagine it will all have changed by Qatar too.

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