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Sunday Independent dedicates half its content on rubbishing Sinn Fein

  • 10-11-2014 10:25am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭


    Bought the Sunday Indo the other week and never again. Half of the main paper was rubbishing Sinn Fein? That was it, every opinion and article about them was discrediting them. What a farce of a paper, the Irish Indo is a glorified tabloid


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,516 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Warper wrote: »
    Bought the Sunday Indo the other week and never again. Half of the main paper was rubbishing Sinn Fein? That was it, every opinion and article about them was discrediting them. What a farce of a paper, the Irish Indo is a glorified tabloid

    Well they do have the economic policies of a retarded squirrel


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    It is basically a FF propaganda tool. Does anyone take that paper seriously?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    I thought 100% of its content was rubbish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    anncoates wrote: »
    I thought 100% of its content was rubbish?
    It is, but 50% of it is dedicated rubbish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Warper wrote: »
    Half of the main paper was rubbishing Sinn Fein?

    Damn, I missed it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Des Bishops take on the Indo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Well they do have the economic policies of a retarded squirrel

    just like fianna gaelbour then


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    If it's not Sinn Fein, it's FG and Labour.

    FF are the bestest political party in the whole wide world in their eyes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭Satriale


    Des Bishops take on the Indo.

    I think it may be the other way around now, he basically told them what to write at the NewYork dinnner and the eejits wrote it for him.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/gerry-adams-editor-at-gunpoint-remark-at-500-a-plate-ny-dinner-30725951.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I saw An Phoblacht are not happy about it either
    www.anphoblacht.com/contents/24553


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,970 ✭✭✭6541


    Ya I noticed that as well, it was like why bother reading this paper, it was all SF did this and IRA did that, totally no news of any worth at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Paddyfield


    I gave up buying Sunday papers 2 years ago. The Business Post is another lap dog.
    I've never voted SF but my opinion would never be clouded by the opinion of a journalist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Winty


    Warper wrote: »
    Bought the Sunday Indo the other week and never again. Half of the main paper was rubbishing Sinn Fein?

    Somebody needs to keep an eye on SF or we will all end up in a Goose step towards Gerrys socialist utopia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    You say that like it's a bad thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    Sunday Times is a worthy read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,718 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I wonder does the Indo realise it is so widely hated and disrespected that people might just elect Sinn Féin to spite them?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Thats a good indication of how out of touch The Sindo is if they are giving 50% of their attention to Sinn Fein.

    The Irish electorate gave them less than 10% of their's at the last general election.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,921 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,075 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I am delighted somebody put a thread up on this.

    Firstly I would not class myself as a Sinn Fein supporter. I realise that Gerry Adams would have been out on his ear, if he was the leader of ANY other political party in Ireland, I also realise that Adams has made himself a hypocrite by trying to live in two worlds like an Irish Tony Soprano "a God-fáda" :)

    BUT even by the right wing Indo's standards it was farcical every second article attacked Sinn Fein from different angles some tenuous to say the least.
    I would not mind if it was something concrete. But it was like an Irish version of FOX news.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    I enjoyed the Sindo yesterday. An unrepentant hatchet job on the tired Republican narrative. Good to see someone question the merits of James Connolly as well from a historical perspective. Good to see a different perspective than the usual fawning over his legacy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,075 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    I wonder does the Indo realise it is so widely hated and disrespected that people might just elect Sinn Féin to spite them?

    Exactly the number of articles and the tenuous nature of a lot of them made them lose impact. I started laughing after I read a number of them.
    I said to myself this is going to have the opposite effect, and give Sinn Fein the ability to play the persecuted victim. Also people will end up voting for them in spite because the indo made such a joke of it.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    I said to myself this is going to have the opposite effect, and give Sinn Fein the ability to play the persecuted victim. Also people will end up voting for them in spite because the indo made such a joke of it.

    If people vote of SF, or even FG or Labour who also get the same treatment, to spite the Indo, they're morons of the highest calibre.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭AndonHandon


    Does anyone else think that one vote per person is flawed and there should be ways to earn greater voting power? Something like adding one extra vote for every five years an adult goes without securing a conviction as an example. Slightly OT I know but the poster saying that people might vote to spite someone is worrying to read.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Maybe only property-owners should have a vote?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭William F


    The funny thing about the indo is that it is owned by the same people who own the Belfast Telegraph, which is at times anti-Irish and sectarian.

    And just to add to that, the Belfast Telegraph has been known to glorify the UVF on more than one occasion which is spectacular considering Denis O'Brien is a major shareholder!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭crusher000


    Must be part of the interview process to work in the Indo.

    Do you hate Sinn Fein ?

    Answer yes , your hired.

    Boardering on the ridiculous this obsession they now have. However expected since GA complained to the press obundusman and his complaint was upheld. So no surprise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭bmc58


    Warper wrote: »
    Bought the Sunday Indo the other week and never again. Half of the main paper was rubbishing Sinn Fein? That was it, every opinion and article about them was discrediting them. What a farce of a paper, the Irish Indo is a glorified tabloid
    They just are doing as much as they can to discredit SF.The powers in charge are terrified at the thought of the upsurge in popularity of SF,and the possibility of them being in government in the next Dail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    crusher000 wrote: »
    Must be part of the interview process to work in the Indo.

    Do you hate Sinn Fein ?

    Answer yes , your hired.

    Boardering on the ridiculous this obsession they now have. However expected since GA complained to the press obundusman and his complaint was upheld. So no surprise.

    no, its more like are you related to certain people at the paper ?

    answer yes, you're hired


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Good sports section though :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    catallus wrote: »
    Maybe only property-owners should have a vote?

    "Native", "God fearing" property owners of good standing, surely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭bmc58


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    I wonder does the Indo realise it is so widely hated and disrespected that people might just elect Sinn Féin to spite them?
    It's not just "hate" of the Independent that SF will get many more seats in the next election.Our "open and transparent" Taoiseach is doing his best to help their cause as well.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The more anti-SF publications the better. The indo are to be applauded.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Banjoxed


    Warper wrote: »
    Bought the Sunday Indo the other week and never again. Half of the main paper was rubbishing Sinn Fein? That was it, every opinion and article about them was discrediting them. What a farce of a paper, the Irish Indo is a glorified tabloid

    If someone is sympathetic to Sinn Fein, why would they buy the Sindo? I can't stand Lucinda and won't buy the Sindo either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    "Native", "God fearing" property owners of good standing, surely?

    White straight catholic rich men, with a bible in one hand and the tri-colour in the other, by the grace of god! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 realistic anorak


    What kind of dinosaur still buys newspapers ? Is it still 1994 ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 gesler


    The indo being rubbish and all is not up for debate but attacking SF is very credible and should be continued, only recently it emerged that they were shipping their Paedo and rapist members down south instead of shooting them like they do the non members.

    SF are the political version of the Catholic church and anyone who believes they are a viable option for government is a loon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    gesler wrote: »
    FF are the political version of the Catholic church

    Fixed your post.

    They have been terminally corrupted by power. But they still have their blind hangers on.

    There's not a whole lot to like about SF either, but should we not celebrate the fact we have a budding new force in our political landscape? It is early days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Mickey Dazzler


    I don't particularly like Sinn Fein but the constant attacks are ridiculous.

    So much so that I will be voting for SF just to watch the main stream parties squeal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 gesler


    catallus wrote: »
    Fixed your post.

    They have been terminally corrupted by power. But they still have their blind hangers on.

    There's not a whole lot to like about SF either, but should we not celebrate the fact we have a budding new force in our political landscape? It is early days.

    Your going to celebrate what you yourself have called "not a whole lot to like"

    Sad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    The good oul Sindo, what with their fascinating pieces on "celebrities" such as Gerald Kean and... erm.... Gerald Kean..

    And not forgetting most of their stories (which are more like fairytales) come from one of two sources either "a source close to so and so" or "an inside source".... Nothing iffy there....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 gesler


    I don't particularly like Sinn Fein but the constant attacks are ridiculous.

    So much so that I will be voting for SF just to watch the main stream parties squeal.

    Oh jasus, this is the type of crap that has this country in the mess its in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Winty


    Warper wrote: »
    Half of the main paper was rubbishing Sinn Fein?

    Lets look at this from the other side. SF are a reporters dream, they have a boss who write tweets that nobody can understand, tells everyone he was not in the IRA but we all know he was, stands up for people who abused children, has a beard, threatened to kill the editor, ect ect


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    gesler wrote: »
    Your going to celebrate what you yourself have called "not a whole lot to like"

    Sad

    Anything, ANYTHING!!!!, is better than the traitors of Fianna Fail.

    And SF are growing philosophically, politically, and electorally. Like I said, it's early days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Banjoxed


    catallus wrote: »
    Fixed your post.

    They have been terminally corrupted by power. But they still have their blind hangers on.

    There's not a whole lot to like about SF either, but should we not celebrate the fact we have a budding new force in our political landscape? It is early days.

    A bunch of authoritarians shouting cheap slogans? I don't fancy that even if I am supposed to ignore all their baggage from the Long War.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Banjoxed wrote: »
    A bunch of authoritarians shouting cheap slogans? I don't fancy that even if I am supposed to ignore all their baggage from the Long War.

    How does any political party start?! :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    To be honest the Indo has been sliding down into the cesspool of tabloidism for years, they are at the same journalistic level as the rag tops at this stage.

    SF are their own worst enemies though. If they truly want to make the breakthrough into mainstream politics and really challenge the status quo they have to ditch the dinosaurs like Adams who have extremely questionable pasts. They are presenting themselves as a very easy target for the likes of the Independent by continuing to promote and support the senior and close to retirement figures who were actively involved in murder, maiming, destruction, shielding child abusers and actively relocating rapists.

    If they retire those members then a lot of these issues become moot. As long as the old guard remain they will still be transfer toxic, what ever first preference gain they make they will still lose out on transfers and ultimately it will cost SF seats.

    On the other hand if they lose these targets for deflective topics then their very questionable economic policies will become the focus of real investigation which could be just as damaging.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    They're reporting what happened in Love/Hate last night as if it's actual news, now that's proper tabloid.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Winty wrote: »
    Lets look at this from the other side. SF are a reporters dream, they have a boss who write tweets that nobody can understand, tells everyone he was not in the IRA but we all know he was, stands up for people who abused children, has a beard, threatened to kill the editor, ect ect

    Let it be known that this has nothing to do with supporting or membership of the IRA or Sinn Fein.

    I myself have a beard and no interest in either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Calibos


    I'd like to see Gerry Adams as Taoiseach.....

    Out of a kind of morbid curiosity as to how fcuked up the country would end up, not unlike how I'd like to see what would happen if the Tea Party Loons and the likes of Sarah Palin had the run of the place in the states.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    Calibos wrote: »
    I'd like to see Gerry Adams as Taoiseach.....

    Out of a kind of morbid curiosity as to how fcuked up the country would end up, not unlike how I'd like to see what would happen if the Tea Party Loons and the likes of Sarah Palin had the run of the place in the states.

    could he be any worse than bertie


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