The French are pissed

YellowFeather

God. Everyone's in foul form in this thread. But this...

Adamantium wrote: »

Sorry, I've this unremovable search engine that has been downloaded onto my computer (that I can't remove no matter what I do)and it highlights and cap locks key words on pages that are most likely to be searched, so I copied on pasted without editing. It means that even as I read this thread, it looks like you're shouting at me.

... is fecking hilarious.

IvyTheTerrible

CelticRambler wrote: »

Paris has the same rental laws as the rest of France, which includes a moratorium on kicking tenants out for five or six months of the year. This means your tenant can stop paying rent in October, start stripping the property of everything and anything worth selling and there's not a damn thing the landlord can do about it until the government announces the end of the moratorium the following spring. What does that do? It makes sure the city is full of unlet, empty property because many "accidental landlords" don't want that kind of hassle.

There is one good thing about the French letting rules, though: you're not allowed describe any room of less than 9m² as a bedroom. If that Ireland adopted that rule, I think 90% of the apartments in Dublin would have to be downgraded by at least one bedroom!

Oh, and if you (or your son or daughter or both) run a little internet business from your/their bedroom, you have to pay tax on it. Mammy, Daddy, Son & Daughter, all trying their luck with a start-up business each = 4x property tax for the sittingroom + property tax for the house + living-in-it tax because they're living in it. And you think Fine Gael-Labour are milking the Irish populace ...

I didn't think that business property tax applied if you were an autoentrepreneur, though?

CelticRambler

There was a three-year exemption, but the government (in it's wisdom) decided that this was unfair to established businesses, so it's been abolished with effect from 01-Jan-2015.

Autoentrepreneur was most successful business-creation scheme of the Vème République, primarily because it was so simple - pay taxes & charges only on the money you actually receive (instead of imaginary future revenue) - but France doesn't cope well with success, so the programme has been loaded with extra fees to make it almost as unworkable as all the other options.

IvyTheTerrible

CelticRambler wrote: »

There was a three-year exemption, but the government (in it's wisdom) decided that this was unfair to established businesses, so it's been abolished with effect from 01-Jan-2015.

Autoentrepreneur was most successful business-creation scheme of the Vème République, primarily because it was so simple - pay taxes & charges only on the money you actually receive (instead of imaginary future revenue) - but France doesn't cope well with success, so the programme has been loaded with extra fees to make it almost as unworkable as all the other options.

Crapola. I'm an autoentrepreneur. Seems ridiculous that I'll have to pay double tax for something I earn relatively little on.

CelticRambler

You might still benefit from an exoneration on the grounds of the transitional arrangement - see here: http://www.federation-auto-entrepreneur.fr/auto-entrepreneur/actualite/2014/10/13/actualite-autoentrepreneur-les-avis-dimposition-envoyes-partir-du-31-octobre.html

Egginacup

I FCUKING LOVE France and the French!

wendell borton

An interesting fact about surrendering French is that one of the last German units to surrender during the battle of berlin in WWII was the French SS division.

Iwasfrozen

wendell borton wrote: »

An interesting fact about surrendering French is that one of the last German units to surrender during the battle of berlin in WWII was the French SS division.

The French have always fought best under foreign leaders

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

We have water charges in France, also, each property/apartment is subject to residential tax (to be paid by the person living in the property, whether owner or renter) and a property tax to be paid by the owners.

I think it's Frank Lee you need to be passing this on to!

handlemaster

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

The French have always fought best under foreign leaders

Like the irish

jank

Red Clover wrote: »

Why does anti-French sentiment get such a following on Irish social media? Considering it is one of the nicest places in Europe to live in I can only assume that many contributors are blindly following the Anglo American tabloid media.

People are not anti-French per say. They are anti the "France is so great, a beacon on the word in terms of equality and socialism" when one just has to look at the facts and data to know that France is a basket case with huge structural and cultural issues that will all come to a head in the near future.

France has not posted a budget surplus in almost 30 years. CelticRambler has made some very good posts here about the red tape in setting up a business where people are taxed to the hilt. If anyone of these soft left hippies who harp on about the greatness of France actually tried to live there for a period of time and gone about on their day to day business like opening up a bank account, finding a place to rent you will immediately see why the country is so stagnet and in a deep malaise.

Of course France is a lovely place to visit on a holiday. Nice landscape, pleasant weather, good food and wine, interesting history. Would I move there if I wanted to set up a business or even get a job? Hell no! Its a place to retire to when you have you money made elsewhere.

IvyTheTerrible

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I think it's Frank Lee you need to be passing this on to!

Sorry I don't follow you?

Nodin

jank wrote: »

People are not anti-French per say. They are anti the "France is so great, a beacon on the word in terms of equality and socialism" when one just has to look at the facts and data to know that France is a basket case with huge structural and cultural issues that will all come to a head in the near future.

France has not posted a budget surplus in almost 30 years. CelticRambler has made some very good posts here about the red tape in setting up a business where people are taxed to the hilt. If anyone of these soft left hippies who harp on about the greatness of France actually tried to live there for a period of time and gone about on their day to day business like opening up a bank account, finding a place to rent you will immediately see why the country is so stagnet and in a deep malaise.

Of course France is a lovely place to visit on a holiday. Nice landscape, pleasant weather, good food and wine, interesting history. Would I move there if I wanted to set up a business or even get a job? Hell no! Its a place to retire to when you have you money made elsewhere.

*sigh

jank

Nodin wrote: »

*sigh

Do you actually have anything to say every, rather then nit pick.

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The Strawman Argument

jank wrote: »

Do you actually have anything to say every, rather then nit pick.

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Fixed your post (assuming it was meant to be Python)

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Sorry I don't follow you?

The poister who initially claimed that you don't have water charges in France - I was suspicious myself.