#bringdownjulianblanc

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 12:21am #1

What do people think about this?

At first glance I thought it was another vast over reaction by feminazi types. I mean I personally don't see anything wrong in particular with PUA or RSD.

But this seems to cross a line.

Basically a journalist called Jenn Li called him out on some of the content he put out on his own social media accounts.

'There are videos of him going up to women, clasping their throats, while putting his finger on his lips, saying “shhh”. For reasons beyond me, he has decided to document this abuse by labelling the videos of him doing this with his own hashtag: #ChokingGirlsAroundtheWorld.'

There are numerous videos of him physically pushing women's heads onto his crotch posted by himself on youtube.

This is what he posts about himself.

He calls himself a dating coach and teaches men around the world presumably to do the same.

Now I am not for one minute suggesting all PUA is so extreme. But this man posts pcitures of him choking terrified looking women on his instagram. He does this himself. That is how he wants his clients to see him.

Many of the 'clients' defending him on social media are suspiciously all from places like ahem India etc.

Anyone else feel that all this attention on Julian Blanc will just stroke his ego and boost his profile? No one knew who he was a week ago.

Jenn Li objected to in particular his racist comments towards Asian women. She then started to target venues that were hosting his events. Of course there has been a backlash against her. But Julian Blanc himself got kicked out of a hotel he was staying in. Events got cancelled in Melbourne, Brisbane, Austin, and Seattle, and Eventbrite have stopped hosting his events.

This whole thing started for Jenn Li when he made a video assaulting Japanese women and made an announcement that she would be calling the Japanese embassy and she did. She reported him and started a petition on petition.org.

Just to clarify this man was not simply using verbal techniques he was getting women in choke holds and physically pushing their heads onto his crotch , just out of nowhere he would walk up to them and grab them by the throat. Some of the woman in the pictures he posted look genuinely frightened.

There is a snapshot of a conversation he had with a woman on twitter in which he says the following comment.

'You should be happy I am acknowledging your existence you whore..I give you the chance to be with me and this is how you react? Grow Pear ...Pfft'

That is his misspelling of a pair by the way not my own.

Has this got out of hand?

There is a 'shut Down Julien Blanc' Facebook page.

Morading hoards of feminazi's now are attending his events and shutting them down. They turned up at one in melbourne with signs and numbers of them started chanting 'smash rape culture' then the police arrived. The protestors out numbered the RSD guys 5:1 it must have been intimidating for these guys. You have to remember some of these guys are simply men who feel the world hates them who feel expendable and feel justifiably angry by apathy towards the male experience in recent years. I sympathize with them.

The seminar began on a boat in the dock in St Kilda pier in Melbourne. The protestors isolated them on this boat and made it impossible for them to leave. They disseminated this information amongst the crowd. ' This guy chokes women, and he is teaching these men how to choke women’.

There were cameras everywhere the media had been called by protestors in advance and in secret.

No hotel in Melbourne would take them. The Como Melbourne responded by cancelling the booking.They had to meet in secret. Their boat never left Southbank dock and their seminar was cut short and completely distracted by chanting.They got off the boat surrounded by Police and to a large crowd of onlookers all taking photos of them and the media taping them.Apparently his Melbourne seminar had to be held on a boat in the first place because nowhere else would take him. and the attendees needed a police escort because so many people (including lots of men) were protesting. This reportedly happened "One attendee climbed off the boat briefly and yelled: “I’ll see you in hell, feminists ... Long live men.”" ????? Who thinks or acts like that? Seriously? Both sides seem to have descended into farce quite frankly. The seminar was a apparantly given in the end by 'Max' Julian's assistant who did not want to give his surname to the press. There have been articles in the Melbourne Herald sun and the Independant.

This man whilst vile obviously has not been convicted of a crime by the way. Similarly the women he accosted had done nothing wrong.

Are protestors sinking to his level?

I worry they are raising his profile. I worry this thread is raising his profile and to be honest I know there are some who will say that I am some marketing ploy by this industry to draw up business. I'm not by the way. I am a guy who in no way wants to be associated with it. But I do think this is out of hand. The protestors seemed to be getting nasty and aggressive.

Just to clarify I am not condoning what he does. The videos make me very uncomfortable and I think he must have some deep issues or at least will do anything for money.

It's obvious his 'product' does not work. Any man who has to physically choke a woman can't say he knows how to influence people. Infact his site or the old one had a disclaimer.

Blanc is an enormous dickhead, even by the standards of the pickup artist field, a field that's crowded with dickheads, a field that is really more dick than field.

It's dangerous to men and women. I actually feel sorry for these guys. The more they get into this delusional stuff, the more unlikely it is that they'll ever make those human connections they desperately crave, which means the more attracted they'll be the bitter and delusional stuff, which means it will only be harder to make those human connections, and so on.

Zemuppet · 07-11-2014 12:25am

Maybe writing a blog might suit your agenda better.

duffman13 · 07-11-2014 12:25am

Longest first post on AH ever. Off to sleep now, Thanks

Edit: I actually quoted that novel

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 12:26am

GerB40 wrote: »

Julian Blanc deserves a shotgun slug to the spine. The world is really fúcker...

Dear god I hope you are joking. No he doesn't.

0byme75341jo28 · 07-11-2014 12:28am

When I was younger I could suck on my big toe but I can't anymore.

Chunners · 07-11-2014 12:29am

No idea who you are talking about, never heard of him so don't care

Yurt2 · 07-11-2014 12:29am

PUAs exploit both vulnerable young men and women with their vomit. Once met a young nerdy guy with blatantly low self esteem who confessed he had handed over the bones of 600 dollars to some PUA shyster to attend a 'retreat'. Told him to not hand another dollar over to the degenerate scumbags.

I'd hate to live in their world.

Iwasfrozen · 07-11-2014 12:32am

Everytime I hear the term PUA I think "what a gigantic dickhead" funnily enough, every person I have ever met who uses this manipulative nonsense has been a gigantic dickhead. Go figure.

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 12:33am

Yurt! wrote: »

PUAs exploit both vulnerable young men and women with their vomit. Once met a young nerdy guy with blatantly low self esteem who confessed he had handed over the bones of 600 dollars to some PUA shyster to attend a 'retreat'. Told him to not hand another dollar over to the degenerate scumbags.

I'd hate to live in their world.

In fairness I seriously doubt most men attending are malicious at all or would dream of behaving as he does. It's clear there are generally not traveling packs of men out on the streets generally speaking. It leaves me to conclude that actually men are the victims and the female harassment whilst awful is merely the spectacle.

There is or should be no shame in admitting you have a difficulty dating. There should never have been this underground attitude about it. Much of social coaching can be fine. I know I sound like I am selling it etc. But PUA had the potential not to be harmful to men or women.

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 12:34am

Chunners wrote: »

No idea who you are talking about, never heard of him so don't care

And unfortunately now you do. For this I apologize.

eviltwin · 07-11-2014 12:35am

Anyone who needs lessons on how to pull doesn't deserve to pull

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 12:36am

eviltwin wrote: »

Anyone who needs lessons on how to pull doesn't deserve to pull

That's a little harsh. In fact it's very harsh.

Some men and to a lesser extent maybe even women in fact do need a little help. Obviously not this way.

Iranoutofideas · 07-11-2014 12:37am

He's an ape and even the so-called PUA proponents want nothing to do with him.

You can be sure however that feminist nuts will use this clown to tar anyone that use "game" as a being one and the same.

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 12:38am

What we need is an alternative really to the malicious content he provides. Coaches who perhaps have a sense of duty to their clients. Don't worry I shan't link a website.

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 12:38am

Iranoutofideas wrote: »

He's an ape and even the so-called PUA proponents want nothing to do with him.

You can be sure however that feminist nuts will use this clown to tar anyone that use "game" as a being one and the same.

Exactly my thinking.

Iwasfrozen · 07-11-2014 12:39am

JasperGeorge. wrote: »

In fairness I seriously doubt most men attending are malicious at all or would dream of behaving as he does. It's clear there are generally not traveling packs of men out on the streets generally speaking. It leaves me to conclude that actually men are the victims and the female harassment whilst awful is merely the spectacle.

There is or should be no shame in admitting you have a difficulty dating. There should never have been this underground attitude about it. Much of social coaching can be fine. I know I sound like I am selling it etc. But PUA had the potential not to be harmful to men or women.

Absolutely agree with the bit in bold but PUA's use vile techniques to manipulate young women into sleeping with them because seemingly they're incapable of getting it any other way. PUA's don't take into consideration the feelings of the girl they're manipulating or the risks associated with having multiple sexual partners.

Iranoutofideas · 07-11-2014 12:40am

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Absolutely agree with the bit in bold but PUA's use vile techniques to manipulate young women into sleeping with them because seemingly they're incapable of getting it any other way. PUA's don't take into consideration the feelings of the girl they're manipulating or the risks associated with having multiple sexual partners.

Yeah it's called seduction. Ever wonder where you came from?

the evasion_kid · 07-11-2014 12:40am

Should have let the boat set sail with the attendees and the protesters on it......then torpedoed it

Chunners · 07-11-2014 12:42am

JasperGeorge. wrote: »

And unfortunately now you do. For this I apologize.

Not really, I got as far as the second line and got bored, I've a short attention span like th...oh look, something shiney!

eviltwin · 07-11-2014 12:42am

JasperGeorge. wrote: »

That's a little harsh. In fact it's very harsh.

Some men and to a lesser extent maybe even women in fact do need a little help. Obviously not this way.

So get help from a professional for your lack of confidence, negative body language or whatever it is that's holding you back. Going to a dating coach is a waste of money and reeks of desperation.

Iwasfrozen · 07-11-2014 12:44am

Iranoutofideas wrote: »

Yeah it's called seduction. Ever wonder where you came from?

Em no it's not, it's called manipulation.

Yurt2 · 07-11-2014 12:44am

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

PUA's don't take into consideration the feelings of the girl they're manipulating or the risks associated with having multiple sexual partners.

I know its not very 21st century to say (slut shaming yadda yadda) but anyone I know who's rampantly promiscuous (both male and female) and sets out every night to sleep with anyone who'll take them, I've generally found them to have the same characteristics of an addict. Same levels of untrustworthiness, same bug eyed intensity and a generally have a 'want' in them.

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 12:45am

the evasion_kid wrote: »

Should have let the boat set sail with the attendees and the protesters on it......then torpedoed it

It's comments like this that fuel the fire negatively though. I think it illustrates the way men are starting to see the world. As in it's against them.

Many men feel all women or at least 99% of them hate them.

I think coaching should involve more positive social training. It's possible for such a system to exist though. Some men need some help or at least need to feel in their minds such help and support is there.

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 12:47am

Yurt! wrote: »

I know its not very 21st century to say (slut shaming yadda yadda) but anyone I know who's rampantly promiscuous (both male and female) and sets out every night to sleep with anyone who'll take them, I've generally found them to have the same characteristics of an addict. Same levels of untrustworthiness, same bug eyed intensity and a generally have a 'want' in them.

There is nothing wrong with that so long as it is done honestly.

Iwasfrozen · 07-11-2014 12:48am

JasperGeorge. wrote: »

It's comments like this that fuel the fire negatively though. I think it illustrates the way men are starting to see the world. As in it's against them.

Many men feel all women or at least 99% of them hate them.

I think coaching should involve more positive social training. It's possible for such a system to exist though. Some men need some help or at least need to feel in their minds such help and support is there.

How the hell can any sane person think at least 99% of 50% (49.5%) of the human population hates him?

What you're really saying is these PUA vultures target low self esteem men to peddle their rubbish to.

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 12:49am

eviltwin wrote: »

So get help from a professional for your lack of confidence, negative body language or whatever it is that's holding you back. Going to a dating coach is a waste of money and reeks of desperation.

'So get help from a professional'.. could this not be called a dating coach? Admittedly someone with credentials or a background in psychology would be better.

I don't feel men who go to such coach's should be vilified. They are individuals. I take people as I find them.

Yurt2 · 07-11-2014 12:51am

JasperGeorge. wrote: »

It's comments like this that fuel the fire negatively though. I think it illustrates the way men are starting to see the world. As in it's against them.

Many men feel all women or at least 99% of them hate them.

I think coaching should involve more positive social training. It's possible for such a system to exist though. Some men need some help or at least need to feel in their minds such help and support is there.

A lot of women fundamentally misunderstand men, just as there are a lot of men who misunderstand women. There's a wing of feminism that are wild eyed demagogues who definitely have 'man issues', and they're loud, obtrusive and are cloaking themselves under the banner of a 'social justice' movements.

These PUA people do nothing for harmony between the sexes. Its manipulation.

I feel bad for guys that cant approach women or are intimidated. It's not easy, but there's ways of boosting your confidence without resorting to shysters and womanizers.

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 12:51am

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

How the hell can any sane person think at least 99% of 50% (49.5%) of the human population hates him?

If we could tell them and convince them of the truth and that it's a lie I think we could free a lot of people.

Insane is the wrong word. Perhaps in a bad place might be a better way of putting it.

eviltwin · 07-11-2014 12:52am

JasperGeorge. wrote: »

'So get help from a professional'.. could this not be called a dating coach? Admittedly someone with credentials or a background in psychology would be better.

I don't feel men who go to such coach's should be vilified. They are individuals. I take people as I find them.

What is professional about a dating coach? I'm talking about a counsellor or therapist. If you can't even talk to a member of the opposite sex then you need to sort that out and some self styled dating expert won't help. They might be able to give you some tips but if you don't have the confidence you won't see much success.

Yurt2 · 07-11-2014 12:53am

JasperGeorge. wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with that so long as it is done honestly.

Yeah, fire away. It honestly doesn't bother me what people do as long as its consensual, but these are traits I've noticed in people that are less than 'selective' in their sexual partners.

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 12:53am

Yurt! wrote: »

A lot of women fundamentally misunderstand men, just as there are a lot of men who misunderstand women. There's a wing of feminism that are wild eyed demagogues who definitely have 'man issues', and they're loud, obtrusive and are cloaking themselves under the banner of a 'social justice' movements.

These PUA people do nothing for harmony between the sexes. Its manipulation.

I feel bad for guys that cant approach women or are intimidated. It's not easy, but there's ways of boosting your confidence without resorting to shysters and womanizers.

I agree. In reality I don't know many women who are 'wild eyed demagogues'. Just as I don't know many men who are PUA , but I do know a few. And even they are not bad men at all. They don't use PUA or the worst of PUA. They go to a seminar to make themselves feel they are doing something about their issue. They approach women and talk about doing so with other men. But they don't do PUA. It's just something to make them feel they are being proactive.

Further villainizing them though only serves to further distance them. I think we should reach out and tell them it's ok.

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 12:55am

Yurt! wrote: »

Yeah, fire away. It honestly doesn't bother me what people do as long as its consensual, but these are traits I've noticed in people that are less than 'selective' in their sexual partners.

I agree. Selectivity is healthy to a point. I would never expect a woman I was dating to have been a nun. But I would be unhappy to learn she had slept with scores without thought.

strobe · 07-11-2014 1:23am

Your guardian angel was speaking to me yesterday, GIVE ME MONEY!!

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 1:25am

strobe wrote: »

Your guardian angel was speaking to me yesterday, GIVE ME MONEY!!

They're not THAT bad.

Ficheall · 07-11-2014 1:25am

eviltwin wrote: »

What is professional about a dating coach? I'm talking about a counsellor or therapist. If you can't even talk to a member of the opposite sex then you need to sort that out and some self styled dating expert won't help. They might be able to give you some tips but if you don't have the confidence you won't see much success.

Ah now - there's no guarantee your counsellor or therapist is going to be of any use either..

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 1:27am

Ficheall wrote: »

Ah now - there's no guarantee your counsellor or therapist is going to be of any use either..

Yes but you have the satisfaction of knowing you were screwed over by an accredited professional. It puts the mind at rest.

One eyed Jack · 07-11-2014 1:40am

JasperGeorge. wrote: »

Yes but you have the satisfaction of knowing you were screwed over by an accredited professional. It puts the mind at rest.

Any of these PUA types indemnify themselves in the small print by stating that their 'methods' are for entertainment purposes only.

Accredited psychological and psychiatric professionals will address the underlying issues with a person rather than the equivalent of slapping a band aid on a gaping wound which is exactly what all these 'dating coaches' and 'lifestyle coaches' do - they provide the illusion of a quick and easy solution to what these men see as their more immediate issues.

I shouldn't need to point out to you the obvious flaws in self-diagnosis.

My name is URL · 07-11-2014 1:50am

Someone ban the OP for using a hashtag as a thread title or else we're all doomed

Ficheall · 07-11-2014 1:51am

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Accredited psychological and psychiatric professionals will address the underlying issues with a person rather than the equivalent of slapping a band aid on a gaping wound which is exactly what all these 'dating coaches' and 'lifestyle coaches' do - they provide the illusion of a quick and easy solution to what these men see as their more immediate issues.

I shouldn't need to point out to you the obvious flaws in self-diagnosis.

That's interesting - and what do you feel are the obvious flaws in self-diagnosis?

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 1:52am

My name is URL wrote: »

Someone ban the OP for using a hashtag as a thread title or else we're all doomed

Ah here steady on!

Cosmicfox · 07-11-2014 1:54am

This is the lad that went round choking women right?

Sounds a right creepy prick who deserves all the flak coming his way.

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 1:57am

Cosmicfox wrote: »

This is the lad that went round choking women right?

Sounds a right creepy prick who deserves all the flak coming his way.

I agree he is obnoxious. But as for him deserving ALL the flak coming his way I would like to point out that there are some extremely odd people out there who are as easily swept up in movements like this as the men who followed him are. They can go too far.

He should be stopped but in a more controlled less public flogging type of a way.

shruikan2553 · 07-11-2014 1:58am

Man treating women badly on the internet? How can we tie this to gamergate?

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 1:58am

shruikan2553 wrote: »

Man treating women badly on the internet? How can we tie this to gamergate?

It was in RL.

Cosmicfox · 07-11-2014 2:01am

JasperGeorge. wrote: »

I agree he is obnoxious. But as for him deserving ALL the flak coming his way I would like to point out that there are some extremely odd people out there who are as easily swept up in movements like this as the men who followed him are. They can go too far.

He should be stopped but in a more controlled less public flogging type of a way.

He seems like the type to have lots of creepy like-minded fans who probably think what he did is ok. Might not hurt to have him made an example of, that disgusting crap like that has consequences. Not as far as having some nutcase hunt him down and kill him like. Public humiliation seems about right.

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 2:06am

Cosmicfox wrote: »

He seems like the type to have lots of creepy like-minded fans who probably think what he did is ok. Might not hurt to have him made an example of, that disgusting crap like that has consequences. Not as far as having some nutcase hunt him down and kill him like. Public humiliation seems about right.

I really hope you're joking.

Cosmicfox · 07-11-2014 2:15am

I'm really not. What this guy did isn't anything to laugh about.

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 2:16am

Cosmicfox wrote: »

I'm really not. What this guy did isn't anything to laugh about.

No but I think what's happening to him now is a bit much and not to be laughed at either.

One eyed Jack · 07-11-2014 2:23am

Ficheall wrote: »

That's interesting - and what do you feel are the obvious flaws in self-diagnosis?

For starters -

http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/debunking-myths-the-mind/201005/the-dangers-self-diagnosis

Cosmicfox · 07-11-2014 2:27am

I don't really care what happens to him or any of these idiots who follow him. He threw himself into the frying pan by going around choking women and calling them whores. He thought he'd get away with it.

Hopefully they'll see that acting like a complete moron will have consequences. At least no-one has tried choking him yet, so there's that.

JasperGeorge. · 07-11-2014 2:29am

Cosmicfox wrote: »

I don't really care what happens to him or any of these idiots who follow him. He threw himself into the frying pan by going around choking women and calling them whores. He thought he'd get away with it.

Hopefully they'll see that acting like a complete moron will have consequences. At least no-one has tried choking him yet, so there's that.

I think going through the proper authorities would be a wiser course of action. Consequences should be measured against the original actions. They mean much more then.

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