Rally for general election Dublin Nov 27th

renegademaster

so, there's a rally called for Nov 27th in Dublin to convince our corrupt government to throw in the towel. This is a hugely signifigant date in recent Irish history when 150,000+ Irish people gathered on O Connell St on 27th Nov 2010 to force Brian Cowen to call general elections, and the following week it was so.

https://www.facebook.com/events/374849422673574/?fref=ts

Streetwalker

renegademaster wrote: »

so, there's a rally called for Nov 27th in Dublin to convince our corrupt government to throw in the towel. This is a hugely signifigant date in recent Irish history when 150,000+ Irish people gathered on O Connell St on 27th Nov 2010 to force Brian Cowen to call general elections, and the following week it was so.

https://www.facebook.com/events/374849422673574/?fref=ts

Needs to happen sooner rather than later. This shower are useless.

valoren

March to call a general election.
The general election is called.
The useless shower is replaced with a useless shower.
Wash, rinse, repeat.

Robbo

renegademaster wrote: »

so, there's a rally called for Nov 27th in Dublin to convince our corrupt government to throw in the towel. This is a hugely signifigant date in recent Irish history when 150,000+ Irish people gathered on O Connell St on 27th Nov 2010 to force Brian Cowen to call general elections, and the following week it was so.

https://www.facebook.com/events/374849422673574/?fref=ts

Wasn't that Dail dissolved in January 2011, mainly due to the Greens pulling out?

Leslie91

Streetwalker wrote: »

Needs to happen sooner rather than later. This shower are useless.

The extra scary thing is that there is no alternative waiting in the wings. To me one is worse than the other.

renegademaster

valoren wrote: »

March to call a general election.
The general election is called.
The useless shower is replaced with a useless shower.
Wash, rinse, repeat.

no, the next crowd of potential tds are witnessing the largest protest movement here since 1922 and it needs to keep growing so that corruption isn't as viable an option anymore. it's looking good on all fronts now the people are taking to the streets in huge numbers :pac:

Robbo wrote: »

Wasn't that Dail dissolved in January 2011, mainly due to the Greens pulling out?

you are correct but fianna fail government business still carried on right up to exiting office, the Nov 2010 protests forced fianna fail to admit the game was up and that day was the final nail in their coffin. the greens thought they'd save face by pulling their guys out but it was already far too late for them at that late stage

BoJack Horseman

renegademaster wrote: »

so, there's a rally called for Nov 27th in Dublin to convince our corrupt government to throw in the towel.

Didn't you start a thread calling for annual general elections if governments weren't populist enough?

Relax.
Its just 18 short months until you can have Martin Ferris as minister of defence & Joe Higgins as minister of finance.

That joyeous day will come soon enough.

For Forks Sake

renegademaster wrote: »

no, the next crowd of potential tds are witnessing the largest protest movement here since 1922 and it needs to keep growing so that corruption isn't as viable an option anymore. it's looking good on all fronts now the people are taking to the streets in huge numbers :pac:

So, if we take the upper figure of 150000 people who protested last weekend (I'm being generous).

Last census had the population at 4,588,252.

So there were 4.4 million people not part of your protest. Hardly a critical mass.

conditioned games

For Forks Sake wrote: »

So, if we take the upper figure of 150000 people who protested last weekend (I'm being generous).

Last census had the population at 4,588,252.

So there were 4.4 million people not part of your protest. Hardly a critical mass.

It would work out just under 3.3% of the people protesting. Critical mass is an over statement. Current government have been doing a good job but the Irish water could be handled a bit better.

RobertKK

Ruth Coppinger on Newstalk yesterday said a person earning €95,000 a year could be called working class once they worked, but no one would be allowed under a socialist party government to earn over €100k, including those in the private sector.
She said this wouldn't scare people away from the country.
Like we can have elections but people will still elect stupid people

Flange/Flanders

renegademaster wrote: »

our corrupt government.

Where the he'll is the corruption rubbish coming from?!

ThisRegard

Robbo wrote: »

Wasn't that Dail dissolved in January 2011, mainly due to the Greens pulling out?

Shush, no place for facts.


This march is hilarious though. A tiny minority marching to ask a democratically elected government to stand down. It's not as if they sprung the water charges on the electorate after they were elected.

But as I said, no place for facts with this nonsense.

tritium

Happy enough with the job the current lot are doing tbh, especially given the starting point they had. Certainly don't see any better options in what's being offered up. So I'll have to decline your invite I'm afraid....

fxotoole

RobertKK wrote: »

Ruth Coppinger on Newstalk yesterday said a person earning €95,000 a year could be called working class once they worked, but no one would be allowed under a socialist party government to earn over €100k, including those in the private sector.
She said this wouldn't scare people away from the country.
Like we can have elections but people will still elect stupid people

Stupid is as stupid does.

Foxhound38

renegademaster wrote: »

so, there's a rally called for Nov 27th in Dublin to convince our corrupt government to throw in the towel. This is a hugely signifigant date in recent Irish history when 150,000+ Irish people gathered on O Connell St on 27th Nov 2010 to force Brian Cowen to call general elections, and the following week it was so.

https://www.facebook.com/events/374849422673574/?fref=ts

Specific instances of institutional corruption on the part of the current government?

You're forever calling these protests. What is it that you would like to see the government (this one or the next) do? You're very clear about what you're against, less so about what you are for.

tallaghtfornia

My honest opinion is this shower is as bad as the others Kennys PR skills are brutal and he is like an 'Old Headmaster', I can remember Bruton, Gilmore and Kenny in opposition and I sometimes think what they would be like now if they where there.

But been honest what is the alternative to this Government ? I really cant see anyone else that I would vote for.

ballsymchugh

RobertKK wrote: »

Ruth Coppinger on Newstalk yesterday said a person earning €95,000 a year could be called working class once they worked, but no one would be allowed under a socialist party government to earn over €100k, including those in the private sector.
She said this wouldn't scare people away from the country.
Like we can have elections but people will still elect stupid people

yeah, she also said that russia in 1917 was a beacon, and now it's ireland's turn to be a beacon!

For Forks Sake

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Specific instances of institutional corruption on the part of the current government?

You're forever calling these protests. What is it that you would like to see the government (this one or the next) do? You're very clear about what you're against, less so about what you are for.

Is there anything to be said for another mass?

SEPT 23 1989

a Thursday at 2pm?

most of us will be working hard to keep the show on the road

Flange/Flanders

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

a Thursday at 2pm?

most of us will be working hard to keep the show on the road

Capitalist pig

Rabbo

A rally to call for a general election would only make sense is you were proposing a credible alternative

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

a Thursday at 2pm?

most of us will be working hard to keep the show on the road

The usual rent-a-protest gang will be there for sure

ThisRegard

ballsymchugh wrote: »

yeah, she also said that russia in 1917 was a beacon, and now it's ireland's turn to be a beacon!

Really ? Did she really say that ? In a way I was glad she got elected to the dail from my constituency, she can't do any more damage while she's there.

irishfeen

We are projected the fastest growth rate in Europe this year, unemployment is nearing 10%, the public finances have stabilised, we can borrow money again from the markets and our social benefits remain among the best in the developed world to protect the poor and you want to kick them out .... This country never ceases to amaze me - sure why not throw Bertie back in there.

ballsymchugh

ThisRegard wrote: »

Really ? Did she really say that ? In a way I was glad she got elected to the dail from my constituency, she can't do any more damage while she's there.

yeah, listen at 13.30

http://www.newstalk.com/player/listen_back/8/14013/04th_November_2014_-_Moncrieff_Part_1

she also has interesting views on FDI at 10.15, in that she doesn't foresee a scenario where they can stay.
back to the stone age then.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Corrupt? Where did that come from? It's over exaggeration like that that weakens these anarchist movements.
I actually think this crowd did a reasonable job getting us out of the mess. I didn't vote for them but at the moment I would certainly vote them back in. Irish water was a debacle for sure but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that it will be fixed. Considering the water charges muted by the previous government, I'd be reluctant to let them near it.

An election in 2016 will do me, as I want to see the overall impact of their efforts in a full term.

wretcheddomain

Before elections folks say "all politicians are the same".

Said folks want to call an election to remove FG/Labour, to replace them with who exactly?

Oh yeah, the other "useless politicians" waiting in the wings...

These people are so *stupid* they make the politicians they condemn look a whole lot smarter.

Idbatterim

We are projected the fastest growth rate in Europe this year, unemployment is nearing 10%, the public finances have stabilised, we can borrow money again from the markets and our social benefits remain among the best in the developed world to protect the poor and you want to kick them out .... This country never ceases to amaze me - sure why not throw Bertie back in there.

Labour wanted to prolong the austerity budgets and increase taxes, which would have done more damage. They have done a better job than the other lot would have done, I assume, pity they were hamstrung by Labour.

If I were to rate the government on their term, it would be 40-50%, just about a pass. But we see the usual **** with IW amongst others. I still see very little if any accountability. House prices jumping back up, where a generation have to smother themselves in debt for a generation to afford anything even semi decent, in Dublin in particular. Outrageous childcare, health costs, couple in particular paying at the marginal rate on very modest incomes and being bled dry...

The ones protesting for the most part are ones I would have very little to no sympathy for, they are the ones shouting the most, but have the least to shout about IMO...

Scannal

This government is the same as the last, we know from records that had FG been in power instead of FF then we would have ended up in a similar situation, maybe even worse. Since then most of the decision making has been done for us, yet the little bit that the government has to do they screw up.

Son Of A Vidic

Robbo wrote: »

due to the Greens pulling out?

Coitus interruptus?

smash

No matter how many people protest, Enda Kenny is just way too arrogant to call an election. His whole attitude is "Ah fcuk them, they'll get over it!"

ThisRegard

smash wrote: »

No matter how many people protest, Enda Kenny is just way too arrogant to call an election. His whole attitude is "Ah fcuk them, they'll get over it!"

Yeah, particularly when you compare how the previous government handled it, oh wait....