A long shot.

snipe49

I shot a wigeon today and was shock at how far away he was 135 yards, i was useing no 6 eley in my side bye side, If i did'nt do this my self i would never beleve it.

shoot to kill

one of three things jumps to mind:
1. heart attack
2. miss print (replace feet with yards)
3. GOOD SHOT.

snipe49

shoot to kill wrote: »

one of three things jumps to mind:
1. heart attack
2. miss print (replace feet with yards)
3. GOOD SHOT.

Its number 3 pal . i was shocked 2 of us checked it twice to make sure.

Cass

At the risk of taking the piss it reminds me of this

An 80 year old man was having his annual checkup,
and the doctor asked him how he was feeling.
"I've never been better!" he boasted.

"I've got an eighteen year old bride who's pregnant,
and having my child! What do you think about that?"

The doctor considered this for a moment, then said,
"Let me tell you a story. I knew a guy who was an avid hunter.
He never missed a season. But one day went out in a bit of a hurry,
and he accidentally grabbed his umbrella instead of his gun."

The doctor continued, "So he was in the woods,
and suddenly a grizzly bear appeared in front of him!
He raised up his umbrella, pointed it at the bear,
and squeezed the handle."

"And do you know what happened?"the doctor queried.

Dumbfounded, the old man replied "No."

The doctor continued, "The bear dropped dead in front of him!"

"That's impossible!" exclaimed the old man.
"Someone else must have shot that bear."

"That's kind of what I'm getting at..."
replied the doctor

123 yards would be, imo, 50 - 70 yards beyond the effective range of not only a shotgun cartridge, but a No. 6. Even with an extra full choke.

I'm not saying you didn't do it, but it's one hell of a claim and one hell of a shot.

Eddie B

This is an easy one to explain! Obviously the bird was hit at a much closer range, maybe by another gun even! The delayed reaction may have coincided with your shot, making you think that you hit it at that distance!

Think about it! Who takes shots at that distance, unless a second barrel shot out of frustration!

Only other explanation is, the bird was hit much closer, and fell a long ways out due to the speed it was flying, as happens all the time, or your using a cannon!:D

hathcock

snipe49 wrote: »

I shot a wigeon today and was shock at how far away he was 135 yards, i was useing no 6 eley in my side bye side, If i did'nt do this my self i would never beleve it.

impossible,put up a 4x4 sheet of paper at the alleged range and you will struggle to hit it.

blackpearl

if he was shot dead and moving fast you could allow 10 yards but it is some distance, often heard of shot balling and traveling a longer distance than normal but not that distance.

snipe49

Cass wrote: »

At the risk of taking the piss it reminds me of this




123 yards would be, imo, 50 - 70 yards beyond the effective range of not only a shotgun cartridge, but a No. 6. Even with an extra full choke.

I'm not saying you didn't do it, but it's one hell of a claim and one hell of a shot.

Not 123 but 135. And broke a wing and put one more in the body.

snipe49

Eddie B wrote: »

This is an easy one to explain! Obviously the bird was hit at a much closer range, maybe by another gun even! The delayed reaction may have coincided with your shot, making you think that you hit it at that distance!

Think about it! Who takes shots at that distance, unless a second barrel shot out of frustration!

Only other explanation is, the bird was hit much closer, and fell a long ways out due to the speed it was flying, as happens all the time, or your using a cannon!:D

There was no one else there shooting at that spot my father waited back so i could stalk in. The birds were on the 2 inches of water they got up and they were 2 feet up not moving just lifting when i fired. I'm shooting since i was 15 i'm 50 now and my father is 78 and we know what happened 135 yards it was with my side by side and a no 6 in the first barrel.

snipe49

hathcock wrote: »

impossible,put up a 4x4 sheet of paper at the alleged range and you will struggle to hit it.

I don;t lie have no reason to.

snipe49

blackpearl wrote: »

if he was shot dead and moving fast you could allow 10 yards but it is some distance, often heard of shot balling and traveling a longer distance than normal but not that distance.

He was just taking off no forward movement at all. Some shot all right.

Eddie B

snipe49 wrote: »

there was no one else there shooting at that spot my father waited back so i could stalk in. The birds were on the 2 inches of water they got up and they were 2 feet up not moving just lifting when i fired. I'm shooting since i was 15 i'm 50 now and my father is 78 and we know what happened 135 yards it was with my side by side and a no 6 in the first barrel.

Why fire at anything at that distance with a number 6? It doesn't make sence to me! Not saying your telling fibs, maybe just a mistake in distance, or bird was clipped before, and was on the way out!

Bird couldn't be killed stone dead at that distance, unless a single grain to the head, but doubt it!

What were the birds on? River, lake, flash of water?

Just trying to get to the bottom of this!

Remember me?

How was the 135 yards measured ? I thought George digweed Held the record for a springing teal at 110 yards .Some shooting all the same snipe well done .

4200fps

anythings possible

deeksofdoom

snipe49 wrote: »

I shot a wigeon today and was shock at how far away he was 135 yards, i was useing no 6 eley in my side bye side, If i did'nt do this my self i would never beleve it.

Congats excellent shot!:)

Eddie B

4200fps wrote: »

anythings possible

Well that's true!

Cass

I'm absolutely not calling you a liar. I've seen enough shots over the years that defy logic, reason, and to a degree physics to understand some shots cannot be explained.

It's just the sheer distance and the gun used. I was out Saturday morning and had a deer in my crosshairs. At 6 power and 142 yards it wasn't huge in my scope. That was a (guess) 3 foot deer. So a bird that is less than half that size, in overall size terms, and no mag to view it, hit at a distance with a gun and cartridge not designed or usually capable of hitting past 45 - 60 yards is some feat.

ferrete

seen foxes dropped often at 100 yrds with 3 r 3.5 inch shells. n seen a pheasant dropped at 76yrds

reniwren

http://youtu.be/4tIGSCyeS-U

All it takes is one pellet in the right place

snipe49

Remember me? wrote: »

How was the 135 yards measured ? I thought George digweed Held the record for a springing teal at 110 yards .Some shooting all the same snipe well done .

we both paced it out and we are very good at it. We did is 4 times and were only a couple of yard above and below. So i'm sticking to 135 yards.
Where do i get that cup

snipe49

Eddie B wrote: »

Why fire at anything at that distance with a number 6? It doesn't make sence to me! Not saying your telling fibs, maybe just a mistake in distance, or bird was clipped before, and was on the way out!

Bird couldn't be killed stone dead at that distance, unless a single grain to the head, but doubt it!

What were the birds on? River, lake, flash of water?

Just trying to get to the bottom of this!

For the last time pal. Now i am a carpenter for 35 years so can measure. The bird was in first class condition before i and only i shot it. He was on the edge of a large flood feeding on grass.

rsole1

snipe49 wrote: »

For the last time pal. Now i am a carpenter for 35 years so can measure. The bird was in first class condition before i and only i shot it. He was on the edge of a large flood feeding on grass.

If that Digweed fella can break clays at 130 yards I'm sure it's likely you did the same. But Digweed can do it again, can you lol?

snipe49

Cass wrote: »

I'm absolutely not calling you a liar. I've seen enough shots over the years that defy logic, reason, and to a degree physics to understand some shots cannot be explained.

It's just the sheer distance and the gun used. I was out Saturday morning and had a deer in my crosshairs. At 6 power and 142 yards it wasn't huge in my scope. That was a (guess) 3 foot deer. So a bird that is less than half that size, in overall size terms, and no mag to view it, hit at a distance with a gun and cartridge not designed or usually capable of hitting past 45 - 60 yards is some feat.

I to was shocked i only fired because i had stalked so far. He was in a bunch of maybe 15 so i just pick out one in the middle. And down he fell. Don't know how but i shot him broke his wing and at least one more in the body he was on his back when we got to him.

snipe49

rsole1 wrote: »

If that Digweed fella can break clays at 130 yards I'm sure it's likely you did the same. But Digweed can do it again, can you lol?

After yesterday who knows pal.

Eddie B

snipe49 wrote: »

For the last time pal. Now i am a carpenter for 35 years so can measure. The bird was in first class condition before i and only i shot it. He was on the edge of a large flood feeding on grass.

A fair enough lad! Shot some long distance birds myself over the years, but never measured the distance! It sounds a long long ways out, and you said yourself, you wouldn't have believed it, if someone said they did it!

Congrats!

Ha, and I always thought those eley were a shi*t cartridge!:D

Remember me?

I reckon the teal got a heart attack😊😊

snipe49

Remember me? wrote: »

I reckon the teal got a heart attack😊😊

I allmost did when it fell.:eek:

Remember me?

snipe49 wrote: »

I allmost did when it fell.:eek:

Def get that teal stuffed if I was u

snipe49

Remember me? wrote: »

Def get that teal stuffed if I was u

had'nt taught f that he hanging out side.

wexfordman2

snipe49 wrote: »

had'nt taught f that he hanging out side.

go out and double check he is dead, I don't believe you :-)

thehound

good shot snipe my father in law shot a phesant at 90yrds with a old keegan side by side hammer action always tells the story when talking about shooting gun is still in good working order bought in 1911 for 6 pounds in dublin by his father in law

Padd2

me and my buddy walked up on teal last winter feeding in a flooded field and we knocked three of the and paced it out over 110 yards but i reckon they were hit a 60 the momentom the had carried them on a bit but still a good long shot for 6s!!

Remember me?

Personally 135 yards with a side by side which probably has a really short barrell I find hard to believe. Try hitting a clay pigeon target at 135 yards and it puts it into perspective. Let alone breaking wing with first barrell and dropping with the second.what brand of shell were u using .op

J.R.

Why would anybody even fire at a bird 135 yards away?

I can't understand anybody firing at pheasants 90 yards away or duck 135 yards away...........there is a very high possibility of only injuring them, with a stray pellet, allowing them to fly off to die a long slow death.

The chances of killing them outright are very, very slim, therefore I would be inclined to let them go unscathed and keep my cartridges for anything rising within 40 yards range.

Wadi14

I had to get to the 3rd page to find someone who asked why was the shot taken in the first place, hhmmm are these 100+ yr shots becoming accepted as ok ?

rsole1

Wadi14 wrote: »

I had to get to the 3rd page to find someone who asked why was the shot taken in the first place, hhmmm are these 100+ yr shots becoming accepted as ok ?

I can barely see a clay at 60 yards, let alone a 100.

Vizzy

Wadi14 wrote: »

I had to get to the 3rd page to find someone who asked why was the shot taken in the first place, hhmmm are these 100+ yr shots becoming accepted as ok ?

You could have saved yourself the bother cos the question was asked at post #12.

snipe49

Remember me? wrote: »

Personally 135 yards with a side by side which probably has a really short barrell I find hard to believe. Try hitting a clay pigeon target at 135 yards and it puts it into perspective. Let alone breaking wing with first barrell and dropping with the second.what brand of shell were u using .op

Who said anything about a second barrell i did it all with one shot. I shot it with a remington no 6.

snipe49

J.R. wrote: »

Why would anybody even fire at a bird 135 yards away?

I can't understand anybody firing at pheasants 90 yards away or duck 135 yards away...........there is a very high possibility of only injuring them, with a stray pellet, allowing them to fly off to die a long slow death.

The chances of killing them outright are very, very slim, therefore I would be inclined to let them go unscathed and keep my cartridges for anything rising within 40 yards range.

I to would feel the same but that i fired and the rest is History.

Remember me?

snipe49 wrote: »

Who said anything about a second barrell i did it all with one shot. I shot it with a remington no 6.

My bad sorry

snipe49

hathcock wrote: »

impossible,put up a 4x4 sheet of paper at the alleged range and you will struggle to hit it.

Want to place a bet. ?
:cool:

snipe49

rsole1 wrote: »

I can barely see a clay at 60 yards, let alone a 100.

U should have gone to SPECSAVERS pal.

marlin vs

J.R. wrote: »

Why would anybody even fire at a bird 135 yards away?

In my book it's called indiscriminate shooting, and not done by a responsible person, how many times was that same chance taken only to let bird's go away injured?

snipe49

snipe49 wrote: »

I shot a wigeon today and was shock at how far away he was 135 yards, i was useing no 6 eley in my side bye side, If i did'nt do this my self i would never beleve it.

I was checking my shooting pocket this evening and found my empty shells from sundays shooting trip. there were 4 in total 3 eley 7's and 1 remington 6. The 3 no 7 i fired at cock pheasents all first shot kills and the no 6 the wigeon. I got this cartrage and 3 more from my father that morning as i had no 6's with me . he's had these a few years but they were in his hot press. so i shot it with a remington not an eley.

Eddie B

snipe49 wrote: »

I was checking my shooting pocket this evening and found my empty shells from sundays shooting trip. there were 4 in total 3 eley 7's and 1 remington 6. The 3 no 7 i fired at cock pheasents all first shot kills and the no 6 the wigeon. I got this cartrage and 3 more from my father that morning as i had no 6's with me . he's had these a few years but they were in his hot press. so i shot it with a remington not an eley.

A I knew it couldn't have been an eley!

snipe49

marlin vs wrote: »

In my book it's called indiscriminate shooting, and not done by a responsible person, how many times was that same chance taken only to let bird's go away injured?

As i said earlier i would never do this but sunday i did. what's the name of the book pal.

meathstevie

I can believe the OP for the simple reason that older side by side guns are seriously underestimated. I used to have an ejector sxs Merkel and shot the odd clay with it with the lads from the gunclub and often purely out of badness I'd let a clay travel until it nearly dropped in a DTL like set up to then give it loads of downward lead and consistently break it. I'm not talking chipping it but breaking it and those distances would be around 80 meters with bog standard Fiochi 32g 6's. The chokes and patterning on older game guns can be unreal with a cartridge it happens to like.

By the way, a good friend does all his pheasant shooting with an external hammers Keegan and the successful long shots are definitely not exceptions with that gun either.

Eddie B

meathstevie wrote: »

I can believe the OP for the simple reason that older side by side guns are seriously underestimated. I used to have an ejector sxs Merkel and shot the odd clay with it with the lads from the gunclub and often purely out of badness I'd let a clay travel until it nearly dropped in a DTL like set up to then give it loads of downward lead and consistently break it. I'm not talking chipping it but breaking it and those distances would be around 80 meters with bog standard Fiochi 32g 6's. The chokes and patterning on older game guns can be unreal with a cartridge it happens to like.

By the way, a good friend does all his pheasant shooting with an external hammers Keegan and the successful long shots are definitely not exceptions with that gun either.

Well I use an old Monti Carlow myself! Was my father's gun and i wouldn't swap it for the world! Great killing gun, as they say!

Think we all hsve to admit, we take the odd long range shot, now and again!

dodderangler

Eddie B wrote: »

Well I use an old Monti Carlow myself! Was my father's gun and i wouldn't swap it for the world! Great killing gun, as they say!

Think we all hsve to admit, we take the odd long range shot, now and again!

True.
I'm a fuker for it. Could be out all day and not see a thing and I'd see a pigeon at 50+ yards maybe more and I'd take a pop at it. Sometimes they'd fall and other times they won't but I've gotten a few nice ones that I never paced out.
Had a lad with me one day who couldn't believe I dropped the pigeon. Still brings it up every so often.
But I usually take em 30- 50 yards.
Can't argue with a good shot when it happens.

snipe49

Cass wrote: »

I'm absolutely not calling you a liar. I've seen enough shots over the years that defy logic, reason, and to a degree physics to understand some shots cannot be explained.

It's just the sheer distance and the gun used. I was out Saturday morning and had a deer in my crosshairs. At 6 power and 142 yards it wasn't huge in my scope. That was a (guess) 3 foot deer. So a bird that is less than half that size, in overall size terms, and no mag to view it, hit at a distance with a gun and cartridge not designed or usually capable of hitting past 45 - 60 yards is some feat.

I downed a cock pheasant today with the second barrel at 75 yards with a eley no 7. It must be a great distance killing gun. He fell dead.

yubabill1

Learning to shoot 30+ years ago, shot a #6 at a crow 95yds away on the ground - Baikal sxs/full choke - he just got airborne and then realised he was dead.

Tried once or twice at similar range with zero results - made me realise there are limits to kill range.

Yes, one pellet is all that's needed, but the pattern gets dispersed so your chances of a hit are reduced.

I've shot rabbits with a XXXfull extended choke/28" barrel, #7 cartridges; but I don't think I would kill a bird beyond 75yds reliably.

I could see 135yds as a possibility, but there have to be large gaps in the pattern at that range. What surprises me is that it broke a wing. Like many, I've been peppered by falling shot at somewhere between 200-300 yds and it bounced off my (well-padded) hat.