Ex Machina **SPOILERS FROM POST 85 ONWARD**

bajer101

This looks like it could be pretty good.
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EX MACHINA­ Starring Oscar Isaac, Domhnall Gleeson, and Alicia Vikander ­ U.S. Teaser Trailer Debut!

Alex Garland, writer of 28 Days Later and Sunshine, makes his directorial debut with the stylish and cerebral thriller, EX MACHINA. Caleb Smith (Domhnall Gleeson), a programmer at an internet-search giant, wins a competition to spend a week at the private mountain estate of the company's brilliant and reclusive CEO, Nathan Bateman (Oscar Isaac). Upon his arrival, Caleb learns that Nathan has chosen him to be the human component in a Turing Test—charging him with evaluating the capabilities, and ultimately the consciousness, of Nathan’s latest experiment in artificial intelligence. That experiment is Ava (Alicia Vikander), a breathtaking A.I. whose emotional intelligence proves more sophisticated––and more deceptive––than the two men could have imagined."

Bacchus

That looks quite cool. The trailer started giving away a bit much so stopped before the end. It's got me hooked though.

JP Liz V1

Domhnall and director Alex Garland attended the Irish premiere and it seems to on release here this weekend, good reviews so far

Catcher7791

The trailer doesn't give anything away. The film is excellent, really smartly written. Every time I thought I had it figured out, Garland's script went a completely different way so that I was kept guessing until the very end.

Kiith

A friend was at the premier last night, and said it was excellent. Looking forward to it now.

constitutionus

just back from this today.

went in expecting a jazzed up episode of the twilight zone and got exactly that.

dont know if its for everyone but i enjoyed it. the effects are lovely and understated and the preformances all around gets the job done admirably.

theres a nice sinister element in it at times as your not entirely sure who to trust and this keeps the drama in it bubbling along on a nice sublte level right till the end when it all pans out to its conclusion.

and hey its got full frontal female nudity !

cant go wrong there.



7/10 from meself. not GREAT, but enjoyable, nearly a high 6 TBH as its more a flim you could watch at home on DVD. For joe public i'd say a 6/10 as its not really a mainstreamer ya'd bring your mates to. STILL nice to see stuff like this getting made

TrustedApple

Seen this tonight and was very impressed with it as the adds really don't give anything away about what kind of film you are going into to watch.

The acting was just fantastic in it as you really don't know who to trust or what is going to happen next as there was so many thirst and turns in the film.

But i did point out when i 1st seen the Asian girl in the house that was another AI

What i got from it that Nathan was also showing us that google is bad and that from it he was able to find out Caleb perfect girl from his porn history and model the AI off what he's into is nuts. Just comes to show that us men if we met a girl that is our type we will fall for them in now time

The end was a bit meh from me that was the only down point.

How does she re charge ? as didn't she need a proper charge point ?

Basically what i got from it is that girls robots or not are going to mess and f with your mind LoL

ThisRegard

samapple789 wrote: »

How does she re charge ? as didn't she need a proper charge point ?

Out of everything in the film I lol'd that that's something you have an issue with.

jimmii

Seen this a couple of days ago. Was a little disappointed it looked good but not much else. A 4/10 for me.

jimmii

samapple789 wrote: »

The end was a bit meh from me that was the only down point.

How does she re charge ? as didn't she need a proper charge point ?

Basically what i got from it is that girls robots or not are going to mess and f with your mind LoL

I thought the ending was ok!

I guess a super genius AI is able to figure out how to charge themselves!

I would like to see what happened next though

how does she get on in the real world with no where to go, knows no one, has no money etc

TrustedApple

jimmii wrote: »

I thought the ending was ok!

I guess a super genius AI is able to figure out how to charge themselves!

I would like to see what happened next though

how does she get on in the real world with no where to go, knows no one, has no money etc

Ture about her being a super smart AI

Shes a hot girl she has a idea of the real world gos to a night club and spots a rich guy and she will never leave just like a real girl LoL

AMKC

I seen this on Wednesday. It was ok.Not the best film I have ever gone to see. I thought it was quite pridictable really. I had guessed a few things before they were revealed in the film. They were quite obvious really. I thought it kinda silly in parts too. I agree they do keep you guessing about who to trust who is telling the truth. Its quite load in parts too. The acting in it is very good. There is some lovely scenes in it but not a lot of action really.

OldeCinemaSoz

A film which HARKS BACK to the '70s fab COLLECTION of science fiction films.

Pared down, straight up and with no frills. I just guess THE MARVEL GANG just won't GET IT.

9/10

MrStuffins

I must say, I'm surprised to hear people didn't like the ending because, for me, it was a slow burner that was in danger of drifting off, but the ending really paid it off and legitimized the movie that preceded it.

I was impressed by this. Highly recommended!

Adamantium

Weird to see Domhnall Gleeson and Oscar Isaac together before they hopefully break out in Episode VII.

ThisRegard

MrStuffins wrote: »

I must say, I'm surprised to hear people didn't like the ending because, for me, it was a slow burner that was in danger of drifting off, but the ending really paid it off and legitimized the movie that preceded it.

I was impressed by this. Highly recommended!

I enjoyed it, but

thought the ending might have been better had it happened when she got into the lift?

ThisRegard

ThisRegard wrote: »

I enjoyed it, but

thought the ending might have been better had it happened when she got into the lift?

Yeah agreed, I thought this was

a good end point

. I enjoyed it but felt it was very drawn out. I also felt the

security system was a bit stupid, you spend millions on this place yet don't put in a security system that's unique to the person (retina scans or something?)

MrStuffins

ThisRegard wrote: »

I enjoyed it, but

thought the ending might have been better had it happened when she got into the lift?

100% agreed.

Dempsey

samapple789 wrote: »

Seen this tonight and was very impressed with it as the adds really don't give anything away about what kind of film you are going into to watch.

The acting was just fantastic in it as you really don't know who to trust or what is going to happen next as there was so many thirst and turns in the film.

But i did point out when i 1st seen the Asian girl in the house that was another AI

What i got from it that Nathan was also showing us that google is bad and that from it he was able to find out Caleb perfect girl from his porn history and model the AI off what he's into is nuts. Just comes to show that us men if we met a girl that is our type we will fall for them in now time

The end was a bit meh from me that was the only down point.

How does she re charge ? as didn't she need a proper charge point ?

Basically what i got from it is that girls robots or not are going to mess and f with your mind LoL

Induction charging, it was stated in the film.

Basically all she had to do was be in proximity of of the charging point. My electric toothbrush charges by the same method

TrustedApple

Dempsey wrote: »

Induction charging, it was stated in the film.

Basically all she had to do was be in proximity of of the charging point. My electric toothbrush charges by the same method

My bad i missed that part completely i just was thinking she had to be plugged in some how.

What was thinking with that anyway considering my phone can do the same LoL with wireless charging.

CatFromHue

Did anyone else pick up a possible ode to Blade Runner with the soundtrack at the end when

Ava has locked Calem in the room or around then

?

It reminded me of the last scene/credits in Blade Runner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogj5gasRpzA

Around 3.08 on the clip above

Looper007

Brilliant movie, but its one film in which I really hope they would ban bags of popcorn and bags of sweet from the screening. It's such a quiet film and you really needed to listen in carefully. But it doesn't help with all the rattling going on.

Anyway, I'm surprised many people didn't see the ending coming from a mile away but even I was shocked Garland went there

I had a feeling Ava was playing Caleb and Nathan off each other so they would start to not trust one another, but even I didn't think she would leave Caleb to die (well I assume he is) cause was he really such a bad guy. But you know it ain't going to be found seen as he's an orphan with no girlfriend

Oscar Issac was brilliant as Nathan, that dance scene alone is worth the price of admission. think this is the better film of his out this month I wasn't too crazy A Most Violent Year even though he's excellent in it. Gleeson is very good too and always seems to underplay things better then anyone and you actually feel for Caleb at the end. Alicia Vikander is great also as Ava and this is the best film out with her in January.

It is beautiful shot and it takes its time with telling its story, people going in expecting 28 days later with A.I's need not apply. This is a very stripped down three hander 70's style sc-fi paranoid style thriller. Sign me up for Garland's next directional effort.

td2008

Very strange that this seems to be out of all the cinemas already or on at off peak hours

don ramo

was it just me, or was that the jurrasic park theme tune being played very slowly on piano as ava walked out of the house,

constitutionus

i thought the same when yer man was coming down the stairs in the beginning.

dont think it is, but its a good touch if it was and i was happy to take the implication it was a modified version of it.

Looper007

td2008 wrote: »

Very strange that this seems to be out of all the cinemas already or on at off peak hours

It's still getting 4 showings a day in Cineworld, which is good these days if you last 3 weeks if you ain't a blockbuster. It's got great reviews so its doing a lot better then I thought it would.

Pierce_1991

Just back from this. Very much enjoyed it. A more clever and engaging A.I. thriller than usual. Isaac and Gleeson are really great, particularly the former who is fast becoming one of my favourite actors. Bit of a slow burner but worth it.

I suppose if I was to pick holes then one issue I had was

Caleb seemed more appalled that Nathan was mistreating his robots than he did when he thought the maid was a human. Little odd.

Technocentral

What happened to this? Thought it would be big blockbuster type popular, even on here its only got 2 pages whereas 50 shades has a dozen or so

johnny_ultimate

I liked this a lot. Garland maintained a nicely clinical, critical distance throughout which felt wholly appropriate given the material. Was impressed by Isaac's performance too - the right mix between charisma and insanity

If I had one issue, it was that the film was almost too keen to highlight its themes and philosophical ponderings. But a film trying to be too cerebral is hardly the worst criticism, and for the most part there was plenty of intriguing ideas while still having having an engaging, playful narrative.

DrFloppy

Seems to have done quite poorly at the box office. About €180k for the first 2 weeks before dropping out of the top 10 according to the IFB. Amazing really considering how good a film it is and then you look at the likes of 50 Shades of Grey going stratospheric :eek: There's no accounting for taste with Irish cinema goers :pac:

don ramo

it cost 20 million to make, it has so far made just over 4 million, but so far it has only been released here, the UK, Sweden and South Korea

no wide release in the US till April

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0470752/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_ov_inf+

constitutionus

which is mental as anyone that wants to see it will have pirated the hell out of it.

any idea why the stateside release is so far ahead of ours?

starting to think its some sort of trend what with big hero 6 getting a preview here a month before general release at a time when ya could near buy it on DVD in the states.

something squirelys going on.

TheDoc

constitutionus wrote: »

which is mental as anyone that wants to see it will have pirated the hell out of it.

any idea why the stateside release is so far ahead of ours?

starting to think its some sort of trend what with big hero 6 getting a preview here a month before general release at a time when ya could near buy it on DVD in the states.

something squirelys going on.

This is the third movie I've got done with this year, and we are less then a full 60 days in.

The first was Exodus which got a Stephens Day release, and then 10 days later my local tells me it only got a short release and is gone.

Next up was John Wick, which a friend recommended me after seeing in the states, and I checked online and couldn't find it. Was at the cinema seeing something else and inquired and was informed it is an April or so release. What?!?

And now this? I havn't been following my cinemas listings closely cause I just ASSUME films get a decent release, but this is also gone from main viewings and down to one viewing a day at like afternoon times.

I'll probably pirate it now alright, but had planned to see it in the cinema. Someone mentioned a calendar or something that gets maintained around here for irish releases, i need to get my hands on it

Mickeroo

TheDoc wrote: »

This is the third movie I've got done with this year, and we are less then a full 60 days in.

The first was Exodus which got a Stephens Day release, and then 10 days later my local tells me it only got a short release and is gone.

Next up was John Wick, which a friend recommended me after seeing in the states, and I checked online and couldn't find it. Was at the cinema seeing something else and inquired and was informed it is an April or so release. What?!?

And now this? I havn't been following my cinemas listings closely cause I just ASSUME films get a decent release, but this is also gone from main viewings and down to one viewing a day at like afternoon times.

I'll probably pirate it now alright, but had planned to see it in the cinema. Someone mentioned a calendar or something that gets maintained around here for irish releases, i need to get my hands on it

It's pretty standard for smaller films or films that wouldn't have a big mainstream appeal like this to have shorter runs though, always the way it's been in my experience. It's only the films making lots of money that run for weeks on end.

Catcher7791

TheDoc wrote: »

This is the third movie I've got done with this year, and we are less then a full 60 days in.

The first was Exodus which got a Stephens Day release, and then 10 days later my local tells me it only got a short release and is gone.

Next up was John Wick, which a friend recommended me after seeing in the states, and I checked online and couldn't find it. Was at the cinema seeing something else and inquired and was informed it is an April or so release. What?!?

And now this? I havn't been following my cinemas listings closely cause I just ASSUME films get a decent release, but this is also gone from main viewings and down to one viewing a day at like afternoon times.

I'll probably pirate it now alright, but had planned to see it in the cinema. Someone mentioned a calendar or something that gets maintained around here for irish releases, i need to get my hands on it

It came out on January 23rd, now in its 4th week of release, and this is what happens in such a crowded marketplace. Cinemas can't wait forever for people to finally get round to seeing a film, so I don't think you have much justification for resorting to piracy when it's been out for a month.But I don't know your local area,so who am I to judge.Anyway,launchingfilms.com is a great site to keep abreast of release dates.

don ramo

any film you want to see, you'll see, the film was in a lot of cinemas for 2-3 weeks, it was well advertised, plenty of posters and trailers on tv, once you see the poster you know its either out or gonna be out very soon,

if you want to see it now, you'd wanna find a cinema still showing it, cause its not gonna be anywhere on a small screen worth watching for months,

GBXI

I mentioned after watching Interstellar a few months back that I thought it was absolute rubbish and I just couldn't see the wide appeal. People were saying you're obviously not into sci-fi and usually I don't like sci-fi films but I have nothing against it as a genre.

Ex Machina proved this as I thought it was absolutely top drawer. Beautiful cinematography, interesting characters, and great suspense. Some parts are a little predictable but it's very enjoyable. I'd say it'll go down very well in the States.

TheDoc

Catcher7791 wrote: »

It came out on January 23rd, now in its 4th week of release, and this is what happens in such a crowded marketplace. Cinemas can't wait forever for people to finally get round to seeing a film, so I don't think you have much justification for resorting to piracy when it's been out for a month.But I don't know your local area,so who am I to judge.Anyway,launchingfilms.com is a great site to keep abreast of release dates.

Yeah I'm just a bit all over the place this year it seems mixing up releases. I only saw the "teaser" trailer two or three weeks ago, so probably thought it was a release later in the Spring.

Have grabbed a copy of the calender maintained here and the link above and a few things to keep myself up to speed.

girlfriend went with her sisters to 50 shades last night and I asked her to check out what the story was with Ex-Machina, moved to single afternoon showing after 7 days initial release

I try to hang off on initial release dates for films so I can go see them with a smaller crowd, but might need to get back into the routine hitting stuff up on release week.

Catcher7791

Hi TheDoc,

I don't know if you actually are in Dublin like it says under your name, but if you are, there are some evening screenings next week at the IFI (just to the right of the images):

http://www.ifi.ie/film/ex_machina

Hopefully, you might get a chance that way. The film is really good, well worth seeing. Best of luck with it.

TheDoc

Catcher7791 wrote: »

Hi TheDoc,

I don't know if you actually are in Dublin like it says under your name, but if you are, there are some evening screenings next week at the IFI (just to the right of the images):

http://www.ifi.ie/film/ex_machina

Hopefully, you might get a chance that way. The film is really good, well worth seeing. Best of luck with it.

Cheers for that. I never check IFI or that other place people mention. Looks like a potentially decent night out for us for the Sat night viewing.

Cheers

TheDoc

TheDoc wrote: »

I'll probably pirate it now alright, but had planned to see it in the cinema. Someone mentioned a calendar or something that gets maintained around here for irish releases, i need to get my hands on it

Or you know, not be a thief and just wait for the legitimate home release. It'll be available to rent and buy on DVD and Blu-Ray and you will also be able to stream it. Ex Machina is one I missed in the cinema but it's a film I want to support so will do so when it hits VOD.

TheDoc

Deleted User wrote: »

Or you know, not be a thief and just wait for the legitimate home release. It'll be available to rent and buy on DVD and Blu-Ray and you will also be able to stream it. Ex Machina is one I missed in the cinema but it's a film I want to support so will do so when it hits VOD.

We frequently come to blows over this and your stance never changes my mind, and my "excuses" never wash with you. Do we really need to go through this over and over and over again?

TheDoc

TheDoc wrote: »

We frequently come to blows over this and your stance never changes my mind, and my "excuses" never wash with you. Do we really need to go through this over and over and over again?

I know but the point remains that there are multiple ways for you to legally support a film you supposedly want to see, so why not do so?

CatFromHue

The dance scene

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a624000/watch-oscar-isaacs-incredible-ex-machina-dance-scene.html#~p4MPzDVK2lX9dm

Mark Hamill

Mostly looked good, the acting was fine, but overall I thought the story was rubbish. I was hoping for something intellectual and interesting about building sentient machines, the best bits of the film are

the interviews/turing test parts

, but it just fell into the cliches of

roboticists are perverts who just want sexbots and robots who become sentient have no issue killing people

.

Mickeroo

My only gripe with how things played out was I didn't really buy the

servant robot becoming self aware and deciding to kill its creator, I don't think he would have programmed it to learn to that extent or it wouldn't have been given the run of the complex. Up until the point where it revelaed itself to Gleeson's character as a robot it just seemed to be a complete zombie.

That's nitpicking though, overall I thought the film was great.

constitutionus

been a while since i saw it so might be mis rememberin things but

didnt AVA get to the robo maid before it stabbed nathan? i got the sense she reprogramed it by bluetooth or sommat . i deffo seem to remembe a scene where ave had her up against the wall and whispered something to it in sight of caleb

tunguska

Went to this tonight and I thought the place would be empty, but decent sized crowd which is great for a film like this. I thought it'd be gone after 2 weeks but its still playing.
The film itself...... I loved it. Very Kubrickian which is more than fine in my book. Great photography, it looks beautiful. Theres some great dialogue with some existential debate. The acting is exceptional. Oscar Isaac is fast becoming one of my favorite actors and domhall Cleeson is a far better actor than his father ever was. But that girl who plays the AI.....she is phenomenal. Its a very subtle performance and she nails it. Think she was robbed not to have been nominated for best supporting actress. Its slightly let down by the ending, but it's a minor gripe I think. All in all a great film, one I'd definitely watch again.

Sobko

A very nice steel book exclusive for the BD but unfortunately sold out from Zavvi. The collector in me wants to hunt it down as I really enjoyed this movie.

TheDoc

Went on Sat night to screening in the IFI with herself and I really enjoyed it. Took from the initial trailer it would be maybe a bit more of a thinker and provocation then say last years Transcendence. The girlfriend struggled a little and thought it was a bit of a sloppy story but I think we both enjoyed something a little different.

Also first time in the IFI since I was a teen, pretty nice setup. Bit too much messing with parking etc. to move away from where we usually go, but can see why people talk it up so much. Don't get though why people when I gripe about cinema costs tell me "well what do you expect going to comercial cinema", this pretty much worked out the same price as where I usually go.

Joshua J

Putting aside the fact that the smartest man in the world has to be dumb as bricks at times for the film to work this is an excellent movie. I can't speak highly enough but I agree that

it should have ended at the elevator.