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Irishtown won't be ready until "Spring 2015"

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    #32
    average_runner
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    Murph_D wrote: »
    It was a public tender process. Would be amazed if fully paid for in advance as this would have to have been stipulated in the tender. Where did you read this?


    Heard it from one of the runners that trained there with his club. The deal apparently, it was to be done at a certain time last year, the company started the job, then went back to the north to finish another job, the company then decided the weather wasn't good enough to continue and it be last March before it would be done!!

    That's what i heard.


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    #33
    28064212
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    average_runner wrote: »
    Private Individuals or not, there is a reasonable amount of time a service has to be provided
    Only if it's stated in the contract. The Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act does not apply here. If the contract doesn't have a timeline, or provides enough caveats for the builder to cover themselves, Irishtown won't have a leg to stand on

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    #34
    average_runner
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    28064212 wrote: »
    Only if it's stated in the contract. The Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act does not apply here. If the contract doesn't have a timeline, or provides enough caveats for the builder to cover themselves, Irishtown won't have a leg to stand on

    Is there not a reasonable timeframe with contracts even if not written down?


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    #35
    28064212
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    average_runner wrote: »
    Is there not a reasonable timeframe with contracts even if not written down?
    There might be, but it would depend entirely on the individual situation's details, and would be very dependent on the details of the contract that were written down. It's extremely unlikely that such a contract would ever be signed tbh, especially for a project of this size. If no timeframes were specified, it's very likely that someone in either DCC or Irishtown management was extremely negligent

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    #36
    Murph_D
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    28064212 wrote: »
    If no timeframes were specified, it's very likely that someone in either DCC or Irishtown management was extremely negligent

    Well it would be fascinating to get hold of the tender documents, but they don't seem to be accessible online (you can find a list of documents but can't download them). Anyway I'd imagine the contract was probably full of the kind of get-out-of-jail language you find all over Irish legislation in general: e.g. "as far as is reasonably possible" etc etc.


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    #37
    clear thinking
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    Why did they not get the same crowd that did santry in 2011/2012???? Mondo,


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    #38
    Chivito550
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    Photos as of yesterday.


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    #39
    tHE vAGGABOND
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    So totally unchanged or untouched since last Sept/Oct


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    #40
    KielyUnusual
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    There is a Massey Ferguson on the track. :) Awaiting further information. It is a development at least


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    #41
    KielyUnusual
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    Said Massey Ferguson

    CDmVd7lWIAAcwbP.jpg


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    #42
    Murph_D
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    Ooh, there's smoke coming out of it. Even more promising!


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    #43
    PaulieC
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    That could be any make of tractor...


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    #44
    Chivito550
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    Right, daily updates and photos are to uploaded to this thread. I'll be training on the pitches beside it on Wed so will provide an update then.


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    #45
    menoscemo
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    PaulieC wrote: »
    That could be any make of tractor...

    A culchie can spot a Massey from a mile away


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    #46
    Chivito550
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    Photos from yesterday evening. Looks exactly the same as it did the last time I saw it 2 weeks ago.


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    #47
    PaulieC
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    Minus the massey


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    #48
    KielyUnusual
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Photos from yesterday evening. Looks exactly the same as it did the last time I saw it 2 weeks ago.

    I thought it looked like a new layer of tarmac but maybe that was just wishful thinking.


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    #49
    aquinn
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    Any Wednesday update this week? Massey still onsite?


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    #50
    Chivito550
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    aquinn wrote: »
    Any Wednesday update this week? Massey still onsite?

    It looked the same when I was down last Wednesday. I'll have a look this evening when I'm down there.


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    #51
    average_runner
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    It looked the same when I was down last Wednesday. I'll have a look this evening when I'm down there.


    Ran by there yesterday, seem to be a few trucks around and some machinery, so maybe they started.


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    #52
    KielyUnusual
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    average_runner wrote: »
    Ran by there yesterday, seem to be a few trucks around and some machinery, so maybe they started.

    Oh yes, meant to take a picture and post yesterday. They've restarted and laid down the red stuff most of the way round. Coach wasn't down yesterday evening but must ask him on Thursday and get a projected finish date.


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    #53
    Chivito550
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    There is definitely progression, but I asked the guy at reception abs he said that the official line is the end of August!!


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    #54
    adrian522
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    Probably closer to spring 2016 by the time it gets done!


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    #55
    PaulieC
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    Since Chivito is busy on another thread defending the honour of sprinters, here's photographic documentary evidence of progress:

    17444593248_c74d884439_c.jpg

    17444850320_a8d98168a9_c.jpg

    The track is now almost completely covered in what looks like the last layer before the top layer goes on. In the first pic, on the bottom right corner you can still see the black layer, but on the opposite side of the track, it looks like the final surface has started being laid.


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    #56
    Chivito550
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    PaulieC wrote: »
    Since Chivito is busy on another thread defending the honour of sprinters, here's photographic documentary evidence of progress:

    17444593248_c74d884439_c.jpg

    17444850320_a8d98168a9_c.jpg

    The track is now almost completely covered in what looks like the last layer before the top layer goes on. In the first pic, on the bottom right corner you can still see the black layer, but on the opposite side of the track, it looks like the final surface has started being laid.

    Yeh I momentarily got excited when I saw the progress yesterday, but that disappeared once the guy told me the end of August is the expected time frame it will be open. Do they need to have it unused for a month to set or something?


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    #57
    PaulieC
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Yeh I momentarily got excited when I saw the progress yesterday, but that disappeared once the guy told me the end of August is the expected time frame it will be open. Do they need to have it unused for a month to set or something?

    There are probably a few factors involved in that ETA:
      In the first pic, there is a white substance on the track in the shadowed area ? That looked like an adhesive of some sort and looks like it has not set due to being in shadow. I guess this is what they were talking about when they said they needed to have the weather on their side to get this done and you can see why it was probably impossible to get this done during the winter.
      The remainder of the track has to be laid with its next to last layer.
      Almost the entire track, plus all of the infield areas need to get the final layer
      All areas have to be painted.
      The council are managing the job.

    The last point is probably the most germane :rolleyes:


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    #58
    Murph_D
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    That seems like a lot of recent progress all the same. Hopefully the Aug date is a worst case.


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    #59
    tHE vAGGABOND
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    Picture in crusaders facebook group of an inside lane at long last...

    A couple of months time we will have a track again :)


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    #60
    Chivito550
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    tHE vAGGABOND wrote: »
    Picture in crusaders facebook group of an inside lane at long last...

    A couple of months time we will have a track again :)

    I hope you are joking with the couple of months. Surely it's only a matter of weeks? Nationals are in 7 weeks. A couple of months is much too late. Season will be over then.


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    #61
    tHE vAGGABOND
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    Quote in thread is two weeks per lane - no idea if that was a p1ss take - but its taken what, 18 months to get this far, so I believe anything now :)


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