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Xbox tv tuner.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 YiddoKiddo


    considering buying this Xbox TV Tuner, but can't find a T.V listing for Ireland.. also will it work with an old white Sky box..We have a dish on the house as we have more then one sky box so wondering if i would get any sky channels or sports channels??


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,798 ✭✭✭MiskyBoyy


    YiddoKiddo wrote: »
    considering buying this Xbox TV Tuner, but can't find a T.V listing for Ireland.. also will it work with an old white Sky box..We have a dish on the house as we have more then one sky box so wondering if i would get any sky channels or sports channels??

    No. The only thing that will work is a roof or indoor aerial. It does not support satellite at all.

    The only channels you can get on it are the same ones you can get on Saorview. Rte 1, Rte2, Tv3 Tg4, 3e, UTV Ireland etc. etc.

    Basically it turns your xbox one into a saorview box.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭Free Hat


    MiskyBoyy wrote: »
    No. The only thing that will work is a roof or indoor aerial. It does not support satellite at all.

    The only channels you can get on it are the same ones you can get on Saorview. Rte 1, Rte2, Tv3 Tg4, 3e, UTV Ireland etc. etc.

    Basically it turns your xbox one into a saorview box.

    What are the benefits to using this over plugging directly into a saorview ready tv?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,798 ✭✭✭MiskyBoyy


    Free Hat wrote: »
    What are the benefits to using this over plugging directly into a saorview ready tv?

    *Watch TV in snap mode.

    *Pause live TV

    *TV Listings in OneGuide: TV listings will be available in OneGuide. Say “Xbox, what’s on RTE One?” to quickly navigate directly to that channel’s listings.

    *Channel Tuning by Voice: OneGuide allows you to call out your favourite TV channel by name and start watching it instantly.

    *OneGuide on SmartGlass: Now you have access to the full OneGuide on the new SmartGlass app with the ability to tune channels on your TV.

    *TV On Demand: TV listings in OneGuide will indicate which shows are available on demand from video apps.

    *Stream Live TV: Stream over-the-air TV to other devices within the home using the Xbox app on Windows 10 devices or the Xbox One SmartGlass app on Windows, Windows Phone, iOS or Android, even while someone else is playing a game on Xbox One.

    http://www.xbox.com/en-IE/xbox-one/accessories/digital-tv-tuner#fbid=ELQqH6uXf6b


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,184 ✭✭✭✭km79


    so ya need an aerial on the roof for this?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,798 ✭✭✭MiskyBoyy


    km79 wrote: »
    so ya need an aerial on the roof for this?

    An indoor aerial will probably do. That's what I use.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,184 ✭✭✭✭km79


    MiskyBoyy wrote: »
    An indoor aerial will probably do. That's what I use.

    interesting
    thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭ricimaki


    MiskyBoyy wrote: »
    .....
    *Stream Live TV: Stream over-the-air TV to other devices within the home using the Xbox app on Windows 10 devices or the Xbox One SmartGlass app on Windows, Windows Phone, iOS or Android, even while someone else is playing a game on Xbox One.

    http://www.xbox.com/en-IE/xbox-one/accessories/digital-tv-tuner#fbid=ELQqH6uXf6b

    Can you stream from the HDMI in port like this?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ricimaki wrote: »
    Can you stream from the HDMI in port like this?

    You mean like a sky box connected to the one or something? Not 100% but I don't think so. Think it's just the tuner that allows that function.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,798 ✭✭✭MiskyBoyy


    Yeah only the TV tuner allows this.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭ricimaki


    Yeah, was wondering if you could connect a satellite receiver to it, and stream its output to other devices. Thanks guys.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭Shred


    I hadn't used this in a while as I thought the indoor aerial I had was dodgy, I just set it up again without realising it was now fully supported in Ireland and it's working perfectly. It's really nice being able to view the oneguide through smartglass.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34 javiercarrillo


    Hi everyone,

    First of all, I'm a foreigner so I am not very familiar with how TV works in Ireland so apologies if some or my explanations sound ignorant (I am :)).

    The apartment I have been renting since 2013 came with a TV and a "white UPC box" connected as follows:

    - UPC Box has 2 outputs, one with nothing plugged on it (no idea what it is for) and the other with one long cable that is then split (with a splitter) in 2, one goes to the TV, the other to a wifi router

    - I have a broadband + landline bundle with UPC but no TV included (as far as I know). Yet, the TV was always able to show TV channels when plugged to the UPC box (even on the first day I moved, before I even had a contract with UPC). I always thought it was just the UPC box working as some sort of "antenna" (no idea honestly).

    I now have an Xbox One and bought a TV Tuner hoping to connect it to the UPC box (instead of the TV) and use stuff like OneGuide on the Xbox.

    The connectors fit but when I try to setup the TV tuner it always finds just "HD" (fancy), locked channels that I cannot watch (not that I expected to). I was expecting to see the very same list the TV has (the same basic, local channels).

    So I guess my questions are:

    - What is that "white UPC box"? Is it an antenna? is it cable? and if it is not an antenna, why does it give me tv channels? (since I don't have a tv plan with UPC)
    - In case anyone recognizes what this "white UPC box" is, does it work with the Xbox One TV Tuner? Or I will need to get an aerial antenna?

    Thanks a lot!
    Javier


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,798 ✭✭✭MiskyBoyy


    Is the white box something like this?

    BByoqUm.jpg?1

    I believe the one with no cable coming out of it was initially for radio years ago. Not sure exactly what it was for but I know like you said, it isn't used/needed anymore.

    UPC is cable, fibre internet & cable tv. So you won't be able to use it with the xbox tv tuner. I think you get all the free to air tv channels free on UPC even without a subscription. BBCS, ITV, Channel 4 etc. I can't remember fully but I'm pretty certain I used to have all these channels too when I was in a UPC area even when I had no TV subscription.

    To use the xbox tv tuner, you will need an outside aerial ideally but there's a good chance a basic indoor aerial will work, something like this:

    71-1074815UC1093475X.jpg

    If you can, try get a loan of an indoor aerial to try before you buy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34 javiercarrillo


    Thanks a lot for the quick answer, MiskyBoyy! Good to know that "I am not crazy" and the Xbox TV Tuner is not meant to work with the "white box". Will definitely try the aerial antenna!!

    I wonder though how the TV can take the signal from the "white UPC box" and why the TV Tuner cannot and, if there's some sort of adapter that could convert the signal from the UPC box into something the TV Tuner (or the Xbox) understands.

    Thanks!
    Javier


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,565 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Hello almost zombified thread!!!

    A quick question.
    I have an Xbox One, hooray!
    And I have a Sky HD + box sitting underneath, doing shag all in this day and age of streamable media and *cough* torrents.

    If I ditch the expensive Sky box can I use the antenna there on my XB1 via the tv tuner to get Saorview and Freeview or what are my chances of picking up UK channels?
    I am based near Swords, Co. Dublin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,798 ✭✭✭MiskyBoyy


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Hello almost zombified thread!!!

    A quick question.
    I have an Xbox One, hooray!
    And I have a Sky HD + box sitting underneath, doing shag all in this day and age of streamable media and *cough* torrents.

    If I ditch the expensive Sky box can I use the antenna there on my XB1 via the tv tuner to get Saorview and Freeview or what are my chances of picking up UK channels?
    I am based near Swords, Co. Dublin.

    You have an XB1, woohoo! :P

    You could use away on the xbox tv tuner to pick up all the Saorview channels but you won't pick up the English Freeview (BBC's etc) unless you're living in NI or near the border. With the exception of course, on a very fine day in the summer, the signal can easily reach across the Irish sea.

    You could however pick up a satellite freeview box for cheap enough which you could use to pick up all the bbcs/ itvs/channel 4 and plug that into your hdmi in on xbox if you so wished.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,703 ✭✭✭JoyPad


    Back when I was a Sky subscriber, it used to be possible to use their box without a card for receiving the unencrypted channels off Astra (full list). If that's still the case, you would not need a separate box, unless Sky wants theirs back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,798 ✭✭✭MiskyBoyy


    JoyPad wrote: »
    Back when I was a Sky subscriber, it used to be possible to use their box without a card for receiving the unencrypted channels off Astra (full list). If that's still the case, you would not need a separate box, unless Sky wants theirs back.

    It still is. Just horrible to use imo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,703 ✭✭✭JoyPad


    MiskyBoyy wrote: »
    It still is. Just horrible to use imo.

    Just pointing out that the existing setup can still work, and it's free of charge.
    Personally, I threw the Sky box in the bin and acquired HD boxes that can be reasoned with. :D


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,565 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    MiskyBoyy wrote: »
    It still is. Just horrible to use imo.

    Yeah, I just need a TV solution that my wife can use without having to negotiate a load of arcane nonsense first.
    Tried a WDtv live box and it was terrible and the Android boxes don't interest.
    I just want to get UK and Irish freeview content and hoped with the existing sky antenna I could do that with an Xbox One tuner... Seems not :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,703 ✭✭✭JoyPad


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Yeah, I just need a TV solution that my wife can use without having to negotiate a load of arcane nonsense first.
    Tried a WDtv live box and it was terrible and the Android boxes don't interest.
    I just want to get UK and Irish freeview content and hoped with the existing sky antenna I could do that with an Xbox One tuner... Seems not :(

    What I did for cases like this (both SWMBO and the heir) is acquire some cheap HD boxes, manually scan the channels and add them to a Favourites collection, so that they can quickly zap.

    I haven't spoken to him in a long time, but Tony is an Irish specialist selling exactly the hardware you need. See here boxes that can receive both the UK freeview stuff off the satellite dish as well as Saorview off digital terrestrial. He is well known in the satellite boards, see here and here.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,565 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    So, no Xbox tuner for me :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Quickone2


    I realise this is an old thread but just wondering if anyone could help out. I just bought the tuner and and indoor antenna. But can only pick up the Irish channels and none off the BBC channels or UK free view ones. Is this possible with this device in Dublin?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Quickone2 wrote: »
    I realise this is an old thread but just wondering if anyone could help out. I just bought the tuner and and indoor antenna. But can only pick up the Irish channels and none off the BBC channels or UK free view ones. Is this possible with this device in Dublin?

    I believe that you've got to set your Xbox to the UK region to pick up UK stations.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Quickone2


    Any ideas how to go about this. Iv set the region and postcode to uk but still end up with the same 21 channels?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,974 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Quickone2 wrote: »
    I realise this is an old thread but just wondering if anyone could help out. I just bought the tuner and and indoor antenna. But can only pick up the Irish channels and none off the BBC channels or UK free view ones. Is this possible with this device in Dublin?

    No, it's not possible. You won't pick up UK channels. Changing all the settings in the world won't make a difference, the signal from UK transmitters isn't getting anywhere near you.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    No, it's not possible. You won't pick up UK channels. Changing all the settings in the world won't make a difference, the signal from UK transmitters isn't getting anywhere near you.

    Well, that settles that then, sorry for getting your hopes up Quickone2!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Quickone2


    Thanks all. Suppose Ill just have to wait till the Sky comes next month. Have a good week all


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Quickone2


    Its a pity because I pick up like 20 odd channels with the Virgin TV point in the room. Shame that cant be used to connect to xbox also


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