Two yr old boy stabbed to death in dublin

Specialun

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1016/652838-ballybrack-body/

Like what the actual ****...looks as if the same child was involved in a child alert in august

Poor guy

RIP little guy

branie2

I hope the woman who killed him is charged, convicted, and gets a really tough sentence

AlanS181824

Awful, awful thing to happen.

Rip little man.

conorh91

Heard this on the news earlier, it's one of those stories that sends a shiver down your spine.

No point in speculating at this stage, but the amount of filicide-suicide attempts in this country is really unsettling. Not sure if they've been increasing, but it sure seems like it.

RIP to the little kid anyway.

Wetbench4

I have a 17mth old boy and i can't get my head around how a person could stab a baby. Such a violent death. RIP little man

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RIP little lad

keith16

Poor little guy. Heartbreaking and beyond comprehension how someone can do that to a child.

loubian

Jesus Christ

Tails!

This is absolutely heart breaking rip poor little man

Professey Chin

Christ thats shocking Poor kid

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Poor little guy.

RobYourBuilder

Stunned. Poor little mite. RIP.

dm1979

holding my own just a little closer tonite, rest in peace little man.

Specialun

Here is the CRI alert from august

http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=13799

DarkyHughes

Hope an angry mob gets who ever killed the child & lynches them.

fleet_admiral

Its my lads 3rd birthday at the weekend, I cant imagine the horror that family are going through
RIP to the little lad

fred funk }{

At the time of the alert it would have been assumed that the danger to the child was from the father as he was the one who they were looking for. They got that wrong.

Social services have been involved since then so I wonder what the bloody hell was going on and why wasn't the poor child taken into protective custody.

fedor.2.

fred funk }{ wrote: »

At the time of the alert it would have been assumed that the danger to the child was from the father as he was the one who they were looking for. They got that wrong.

Social services have been involved since then so I wonder what the bloody hell was going on and why wasn't the poor child taken into protective custody.

Probably being super cautious after what happened when they took that Roma kid

Laois6556

There's some really evil people in this world. Poor little lad, hope the angels are taking care of you now.

michael999999

fred funk }{ wrote: »

At the time of the alert it would have been assumed that the danger to the child was from the father as he was the one who they were looking for. They got that wrong.

Social services have been involved since then so I wonder what the bloody hell was going on and why wasn't the poor child taken into protective custody.

Because its Ireland. And we only move after the event!

Francie Barrett

Specialun wrote: »

Here is the CRI alert from august

http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=13799

Crikey.

Tipsy McSwagger

DarkyHughes wrote: »

Hope an angry mob gets who ever killed the child & lynches them.

Hope whoever did it gets a fair trial and if found guilty a tough sentence.

fred funk }{

fedor.2. wrote: »

Probably being super cautious after what happened when they took that Roma kid

Not the same.

This kid's life was clearly in danger before so why the fook was he left back with the same person/people who endangered him in the first place. Serious fook up by Social services.

dm1979

I dont know the ins and outs of the cri alert issued about him, but surely someone out there in social services would have a case on him, or even a follow up. cri alerts are issued when they think the child is in real danger.

GinnyR

Oh poor child. RIP.

vicwatson

Specialun wrote: »

Here is the CRI alert from august

http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=13799

And a subsequent report finding the little lad safe and well, if only he could be safe and well now.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/missing-toddler-2-and-father-61-found-safe-and-well-30497329.html

Whatever the **** was going on between the parents at this point you'd have to ask why the **** did they have a child if they were gonna mess up the poor chaps life, sorry I'm very angry over this. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR :mad::mad:

The_Mask

Poor lad, been through so much in his short life, very sad. Hopefully his mother will do actual jail time and not just therapy.

dm1979

fred funk }{ wrote: »

At the time of the alert it would have been assumed that the danger to the child was from the father as he was the one who they were looking for. They got that wrong.

Social services have been involved since then so I wonder what the bloody hell was going on and why wasn't the poor child taken into protective custody.

sorry you posted what i was thinking before i got a chance to, and put it much better than i did.

woodoo

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Crikey.

I wonder did the father take him that time because he was worried about the mother.

michael999999

woodoo wrote: »

I wonder did the father take him that time because he was worried about the mother.

And the Gardai handed him straight back to he's mother!

sonofenoch

'A woman in her 40's being questioned'......if it were a man in his 40s he'd be named mugshot and every little detail down to school he attended would be made public already, bet this woman won't be identified for weeks

castletownman

fred funk }{ wrote: »

At the time of the alert it would have been assumed that the danger to the child was from the father as he was the one who they were looking for. They got that wrong.

Social services have been involved since then so I wonder what the bloody hell was going on and why wasn't the poor child taken into protective custody.

And had the father being the murderer he would have been seen as evil and locked up for life. But somehow I can see the mother's clear psychological well-being been taken into consideration and thus getting a more leniant sentence.

HeidiHeidi

michael999999 wrote: »

And the Gardai handed him straight back to he's mother!

Do you know that?

sonofenoch wrote: »

'A woman in her 40's being questioned'......if it were a man in his 40s he'd be named mugshot and every little detail down to school he attended would be made public already, bet this woman won't be identified for weeks

No he wouldn't.

The lynch mobs weren't long coming out.

RIP to the poor child, but any chance we could leave the public hangings for just a little bit until we actually know what happened?

Pretzill

vicwatson wrote: »

And a subsequent report finding the little lad safe and well, if only he could be safe and well now.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/missing-toddler-2-and-father-61-found-safe-and-well-30497329.html

Whatever the **** was going on between the parents at this point you'd have to ask why the **** did they have a child if they were gonna mess up the poor chaps life, sorry I'm very angry over this. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR :mad::mad:

You know what also annoys me that some posters here think it is in the public interest to put two and two together and release details about this child including name possibly before it has been officially released and all his family have been informed.

Rubber necking and the thirst for more grisley info doesn't entertain me either.

But that said. This is a shocking case.

RIP little boy.

branie2

The reason why the little boy was handed back to his mother by the guards is because mothers are thought to be caring and nurturing. Obviously not true in this case

MagicMarker

branie2 wrote: »

I hope the woman who killed him is charged, convicted, and gets a really tough sentence

Woah, let's not go crazy.

handbagmad

Poor child RIP

the world id fcuked up!

Laois6556

sonofenoch wrote: »

'A woman in her 40's being questioned'......if it were a man in his 40s he'd be named mugshot and every little detail down to school he attended would be made public already, bet this woman won't be identified for weeks

**** off with that sh1te, a 2 year old was murdered and that's all you're worried about? Masculinist dickheads are getting out of control.

tayto lover

michael999999 wrote: »

And the Gardai handed him straight back to he's mother!

No. He would have been handed over to Social Services and a Social Worker appointed to the case.

P. Breathnach

branie2 wrote: »

The reason why the little boy was handed back to his mother by the guards is because mothers are thought to be caring and nurturing. Obviously not true in this case

Do you know what happened, or are you making suppositions?

michael999999

tayto lover wrote: »

No. He would have been handed over to Social Services and a Social Worker appointed to the case.

Ya. And a fantastic job was certainly done.

dm1979

doesnt matter if it was his mother or father or both, a little boy is dead, he was the subject of a cri alert, designed to help save and protect a child who needs help. questions need to be asked not about who did it and how long they should hang for it but about weather or not this could have been prevented

Lyger

Well there is unfortunately bias in favour of the mother in these situations. I'm not saying this to start a gender war (pretty low thing to do on the back of such an horrific tragedy) just that that is a genuine problem due to a rather old-fashioned legislation in which it's contained that the mother is always the more suitable parent.

RIP poor little guy.

tayto lover

michael999999 wrote: »

Ya. And a fantastic job was certainly done.

Obviously not BUT the ins and out of the case are not known as yet. Taking children from parents is a very serious issue and is fought tooth and nail by solicitors. There seems to be a serious lack of Social Workers since the recession and cut-backs began.

HeidiHeidi

dm1979 wrote: »

doesnt matter if it was his mother or father or both, a little boy is dead, he was the subject of a cri alert, designed to help save and protect a child who needs help. questions need to be asked not about who did it and how long they should hang for it but about weather or not this could have been prevented

The CRI alert was cancelled very quickly after being issued, and Gardai said they were satisfied that the boy was never in any danger. (Cannot for the life of me find the article again, I read it earlier, think it was the Irish Times). Said that at the time they were doubtful about issuing it but felt that they had no choice.

I'm not saying the CRI didn't have anything to do with today's tragic event (because I don't know and I suspect no-one else posting here does either), but equally we can't and shouldn't jump to conclusions.

Lyger

sonofenoch wrote: »

'A woman in her 40's being questioned'......if it were a man in his 40s he'd be named mugshot and every little detail down to school he attended would be made public already, bet this woman won't be identified for weeks

Jeez, all those details?

The accused shouldn't be identified at all, whether male or female, until a guilty verdict against them is returned.

Right now there is someone being questioned - that's all; could be the person responsible but we certainly don't know for sure.

dark crystal

sonofenoch wrote: »

'A woman in her 40's being questioned'......if it were a man in his 40s he'd be named mugshot and every little detail down to school he attended would be made public already, bet this woman won't be identified for weeks

Is that seriously all you took from this story? The poor little child's name hasn't even been released yet and you're ranting about gender bias in the media?

woodoo

michael999999 wrote: »

And the Gardai handed him straight back to he's mother!

Only men are dangerous you see.

Lyger

castletownman wrote: »

And had the father being the murderer he would have been seen as evil and locked up for life. But somehow I can see the mother's clear psychological well-being been taken into consideration and thus getting a more leniant sentence.

Possibly. Could be the result of mental illness all right though - whether carried out by a man or woman. Nothing wrong with a psychiatric assessment in either case.

vicwatson

Pretzill wrote: »

You know what also annoys me that some posters here think it is in the public interest to put two and two together and release details about this child including name possibly before it has been officially released and all his family have been informed.

Rubber necking and the thirst for more grisley info doesn't entertain me either.

But that said. This is a shocking case.

RIP little boy.

Tis all over the internet. It doesn't take an Einstein to work it our considering it was only August since the little lad was involved in a CRI ( do you know other 2 year olds involved in a CRI this year?)

And from what they said on the 9 news on RTE it was infact a family member that called the Gardai.

I'm sure you didn't click on the link.

hatrickpatrick

conorh91 wrote: »

No point in speculating at this stage, but the amount of filicide-suicide attempts in this country is really unsettling. Not sure if they've been increasing, but it sure seems like it.

Part of this is probably because of the CRI system, we're hearing about them far more often now. Which is ultimately a good thing, even if it means we have to hear about such incidents more often when they don't end well.