Cork GAA Discussion Thread

ShamoBuc

Hurleratheart wrote: »

What year wasthat Shambuc, wasn't recent was it ?

God no...'75

Last year, I was talking to one of the players who became a teacher in the school later, he remembers it like it was yesterday. They stopped Brendan's doing the 4 in a row, something that was never done I believe until this year!

The best schools team I remember was the Críost Rí team of the mid to late 80's. They were nothing short of brilliance personified. 6 or 7 finals in a row I think - the backbone of the Nemo team of the 90's.

ShamoBuc

commonsense. wrote: »

Your Alme Mater was either sullivans quay in '75 or chriost ri in '68. Either way it can't compare with 2015. Back then it probably required 3 games, 4 max to win either munster title. Roco played 7 harty games alone this year. A further 7 in corn ui mhuri. Throw in o'callaghan cup and simcox and they will have played 22 (yes 22) c'ship games this year. Too many me thinks. We'll have to agree to disagree. I just don't think both can be done in the modern era. By the way, while I said I was a hurling man I didn't express a view on which one they should focus on. My point is you can't do both. My preference if they did decide to focus would obviously be hurling.

I see you've been googling :pac:

Sullivan's Quay was the primary school, since closed. Coláiste Iognáid Rís is the name, otherwise known as Deerpark CBS.
And yes, things have changed - kids are much fitter these days;)

rebelomar

Deco99 wrote: »

I'd be interested to see if Cuthbert and Co, learned a lesson from the Donegal game, in that they played first half against a strong wind and in second half with the wind Donncha was withdrawn having been ran into submission. Having been in Tyrone previously they'd know there is always a strong breeze in that pitch too, so were the workhorses wheeled out for the first half and fresh attacking forwards brought on to take advantage of the wind and tired legs? I'm hoping it didnt just pan out this way and that it was part of the plan to contain against the wind before going on the offence with it.

Actually, i may be open to correction on the Donegal game, i think they played against the wind first half anyway/

I'd imagine they have an overall game plan but obviously they can't predict the coin toss for wind advantage.

I'd imagine there's a plan within an overall plan for being both against wind and with it.

Let's be fair the management seem to have upped their game so far this season. We live in hope...we have the talent though something 95% of of teams don't have.

Hurleratheart

ShamoBuc wrote: »

I see you've been googling :pac:

Sullivan's Quay was the primary school, since closed. Coláiste Iognáid Rís is the name, otherwise known as Deerpark CBS.
And yes, things have changed - kids are much fitter these days;)

no offence but I'm sideing with commonscence on this one - i think those kids would choose a munster medal over none - great experien ce and all

Anyway movin on, good luck to 21s I hope we win well tonite

zetecescort

commentary on 103fm tonight, best of luck to the u-21s

ShamoBuc

Hurleratheart wrote: »

no offence but I'm sideing with commonscence on this one - i think those kids would choose a munster medal over none - great experien ce and all

Anyway movin on, good luck to 21s I hope we win well tonite

If a medal were Guaranteed, I might agree. But by the same token of reasoning, you have twice the chance of winning a medal, by getting to 2 finals - maybe even winning 2 !


About 30 gone cork lead by a point 1-4 v 1-2 , we were 1-2 to no score up after 7 mins

Deco99

rebelomar wrote: »

I'd imagine they have an overall game plan but obviously they can't predict the coin toss for wind advantage.

I'd imagine there's a plan within an overall plan for being both against wind and with it.

Let's be fair the management seem to have upped their game so far this season. We live in hope...we have the talent though something 95% of of teams don't have.

Agree with you, what i am wondering is how in depth their planning goes? Mayo and Donegal, to my eyes anyway, last year had a game plan based on quarters almost, especially in croker where wind wouldnt be as much an issue.
1st quarter - contain, let the other team attack and tire themselves a bit, dont commit too many forward,
2nd quarter or maybe last 15 of first half, attack, backs have freedom to go upfield, create overlaps and get scores and a team that is lulled into a false sense of security.
3rd Quarter - ATTACK - all out go for the kill at this stage, after half time is a great time to catch a team unawares.
4th quarter - contain and hold onto the lead built up, give nothing away and have lots of bodies behind the ball, breaking down the other end when the opportunity presents to keep scoreboard ticking over.

It really seemed to me that both teams were tuned into when they were all defending and when they went to blitz the opposition. I'm sure most will agree that individually both teams havent the same talent as the other top tier sides but they really put in a good team performance together.

zetecescort

cork 1-8 Kerry 1-7 45min

feckin radio bingo, Jesus Christ!

zetecescort

Cork 1-10 Kerry 1-8 50min

zetecescort

1-11 to 1-9 into injury time

ShamoBuc

Winner!!!!!
1-12 v1-09

zetecescort

1-12 to 1-9 FT. well done

Tipp 15 Clare 7 FT

CORKDOUBLE

Well done to Sean Hayes and the lads a sweet sweet win ....make no mistake Sean Hayes won the sideline battle with yer man tonight the great Dara ....hopefully the injurys can clear up a little for the final Tipp will start as favourites .

sean mac

Huge win, certainly not the best squad over the last 5 years and missing Crowley and Maguire huge losses. Bigger test against tipp awaits but beating Kerry is certainly a good start.

Poor_old_gill

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Well done to Sean Hayes and the lads a sweet sweet win ....make no mistake Sean Hayes won the sideline battle with yer man tonight the great Dara ....hopefully the injurys can clear up a little for the final Tipp will start as favourites .

I wouldn't hail him as too much of a genius for out- foxing Darragh.
Even in Kerry we knew that he wasn't upto it- his team selection was very poor and tactics were non- existent.

Gary o Sullivan, who starts midfield for UCC can't even get a run but darraghs club mate who can't get near game time for UCC comes on!

The game was over as a contest once Savage was (incorrectly black carded)- to be honest all that kept us in the game was Corks poor shooting and it was a well deserved victory.

Good luck in the final- we'll catch ye next year!

sean mac

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

I wouldn't hail him as too much of a genius for out- foxing Darragh.
Even in Kerry we knew that he wasn't upto it- his team selection was very poor and tactics were non- existent.

Gary o Sullivan, who starts midfield for UCC can't even get a run but darraghs club mate who can't get near game time for UCC comes on!

The game was over as a contest once Savage was (incorrectly black carded)- to be honest all that kept us in the game was Corks poor shooting and it was a well deserved victory.

Good luck in the final- we'll catch ye next year!

Theres always next year thank god, perhaps jack to move up to u21 next year for Kerry??
Either way tonight despite perhaps the quality was an excellent win for a cork team missing a few vital players to injury. Don't know if Maguire will be back in 2 weeks, Crowley is absolutely crocked with injury unfortunately. Well done to all concerned

Hurleratheart

Enterntaining game last night and good to beat kerry

taught alan o donovan done very well worked really hard and created the goal chances and kellehers first point. pity his last efford for a point went wide - serious hard worker

faded a bit in middle of game but started and finished very strong

no point haveing peter kellher in at 14 with no ball going in first half, he done well when he came out - fierce awkard looking but effective

pluszap

The Cork Senior Hurling team lines out as follows:1.  Anthony Nash (Kanturk)2.  Shane O’Neill (Bishopstown)3.  Stephen McDonnell (Glen Rovers)4.  Damien Cahalane

(St. Finbarr’s)5.  Lorcán McLoughlin (Kanturk)6.  Mark Ellis (Millstreet)7.  Cormac Murphy (Mallow)8.  Daniel Kearney (Sarsfields)9.  Aidan Walsh (Kanturk)10. Conor

Lehane (Midleton)11. Seamus Harnedy (St.Ita’s)12. Rob O’Shea (Carrigaline)13. Alan Cadogan (Douglas)14. Luke O’Farrell (Midleton)15. Patrick Horgan (Glen

Rovers)
Subs:16. Patrick Collins (Ballinhassig)17. William Kearney (Sarsfields)18. Conor O’Sullivan (Sarsfields)19. Killian Burke (Midleton)20. Andy Walsh (Killeagh)21. Brian Lawton (Castlemartyr)22. Stephen Moylan (Douglas)23. Paudie O’Sullivan (Cloyne)24. Anthony Spillane (Castlelyons)25. Darren McCarthy (Ballymartle)26. Bill Cooper (Youghal)

zetecescort

strong team, thought JBM might rest a few.

Figsy32

Cian Mc has left the panel due to work commitments. Just posted on Cork GAA's twitter.

zetecescort

Best of luck to him. Must be very hard to give the commitment needed when you are on the fringes of the team

eigrod

Looks like it's going to be a very tight call between Luke O' Farrell and Paudie O' Sullivan for the no. 14 shirt all year. Will be a lot of pressure on the man in possession of the shirt to perform each game, with the other breathing heavily down his neck.

wackokid

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

I wouldn't hail him as too much of a genius for out- foxing Darragh.
Even in Kerry we knew that he wasn't upto it- his team selection was very poor and tactics were non- existent.

Gary o Sullivan, who starts midfield for UCC can't even get a run but darraghs club mate who can't get near game time for UCC comes on!

The game was over as a contest once Savage was (incorrectly black carded)- to be honest all that kept us in the game was Corks poor shooting and it was a well deserved victory.

Good luck in the final- we'll catch ye next year!

Why do you say 'incorrectly black carded'?
Isn't that why they introduced the bloody thing, to stop the deliberate grounding of the player in possession. Savage and Kerry ( Weeshie) can have no complaints unless Kerry want their own rules again.

Deco99

wackokid wrote: »

Why do you say 'incorrectly black carded'?
Isn't that why they introduced the bloody thing, to stop the deliberate grounding of the player in possession. Savage and Kerry ( Weeshie) can have no complaints unless Kerry want their own rules again.

I would be of the opinion that he feels it wasnt "deliberate grounding of the player" therefore "incorrectly black carded" in the posters "opinion". No real need to have a pop after, plenty of time for that in July.

Poor_old_gill

wackokid wrote: »

Why do you say 'incorrectly black carded'?
Isn't that why they introduced the bloody thing, to stop the deliberate grounding of the player in possession. Savage and Kerry ( Weeshie) can have no complaints unless Kerry want their own rules again.

It wasnt a malicious or cynical tackle- the guy ducked into his challenge and made a meal out of it.
The majority of fouls end up in a player being grounded- are they all black cards? Did you see it?

Kerry want their own rules again? Thats it, good man yourself

wackokid

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

It wasnt a malicious or cynical tackle- the guy ducked into his challenge and made a meal out of it.
The majority of fouls end up in a player being grounded- are they all black cards? Did you see it?

Kerry want their own rules again? That's it, good man yourself

FYI....The Gaelic Football Rule changes which become operative on 1st January 2014 are as follows.....there are 6 changes
1...Introduction of a BLACK CARD for Cynical Behaviour Fouls and there are 5 of them fouls listed. We need only concern ourselves with No1 here.

1 Deliberately pull down an opponent.

Obviously the Rules people regard that as cynical behaviour no matter what the circumstances and we can argue all day and all night about the rights and wrongs of Savage's black card. The ref thought he deliberately pulled down an opponent, and I did too.
Yes I was there and these things happen quickly etc. etc. and we are all colour blind in these matters.
To answer you on Kerry's rules it's obvious that Kerry take scoring frees from the wrong and obviously more favourable positions and get away with it time after time. The seniors have it perfected and now the U21s are at it too. Several instances on Wed. night and the reaction of the Cork supporters tells it's own story.

Deco99

wackokid wrote: »

FYI....The Gaelic Football Rule changes which become operative on 1st January 2014 are as follows.....there are 6 changes
1...Introduction of a BLACK CARD for Cynical Behaviour Fouls and there are 5 of them fouls listed. We need only concern ourselves with No1 here.

1 Deliberately pull down an opponent.

Obviously the Rules people regard that as cynical behaviour no matter what the circumstances and we can argue all day and all night about the rights and wrongs of Savage's black card. The ref thought he deliberately pulled down an opponent, and I did too.
Yes I was there and these things happen quickly etc. etc. and we are all colour blind in these matters.
To answer you on Kerry's rules it's obvious that Kerry take scoring frees from the wrong and obviously more favourable positions and get away with it time after time. The seniors have it perfected and now the U21s are at it too. Several instances on Wed. night and the reaction of the Cork supporters tells it's own story.

Would you stop, you're making the rest of us look bad.

eigrod

Have TG4 showed Cork hurlers live at all ? Apparently they're showing Clare v KK tomorrow when the Cork v Tipp game is really the game of the day. Very disappointing to those of us not living in Cork.

zetecescort

eigrod wrote: »

Have TG4 showed Cork hurlers live at all ? Apparently they're showing Clare v KK tomorrow when the Cork v Tipp game is really the game of the day. Very disappointing to those of us not living in Cork.

TG4 no, but we have only played Galway and now Tipp on a Sunday. KK, Clare and Dublin games all on Saturday evenings

zetecescort

wackokid wrote: »

FYI....The Gaelic Football Rule changes which become operative on 1st January 2014 are as follows.....there are 6 changes
1...Introduction of a BLACK CARD for Cynical Behaviour Fouls and there are 5 of them fouls listed. We need only concern ourselves with No1 here.

1 Deliberately pull down an opponent.

Obviously the Rules people regard that as cynical behaviour no matter what the circumstances and we can argue all day and all night about the rights and wrongs of Savage's black card. The ref thought he deliberately pulled down an opponent, and I did too.
Yes I was there and these things happen quickly etc. etc. and we are all colour blind in these matters.
To answer you on Kerry's rules it's obvious that Kerry take scoring frees from the wrong and obviously more favourable positions and get away with it time after time. The seniors have it perfected and now the U21s are at it too. Several instances on Wed. night and the reaction of the Cork supporters tells it's own story.

not just a Kerry thing, I have long argued that attempts at scoring from frees should be taken from the ground