Cork GAA Discussion Thread

dobman88

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Kerry are delighted after this
Two games played with lot learned and a walk in the park v westmeath or fermanagh
Probably fermanagh and considering McGrath coached down best team all ireland semi final they prefer McGrath in he'll give them another blanket defence



Interesting how cork adapt for Dublin
This management you can't predicable what they will do as every defeat it's just panic absoultey panic

Cork won't have to adapt for Dublin now :pac:

irishfeen

sean mac wrote: »

brian, if you are a passionate cork football man do the right thing and go now ffs.

I agree but realistically will we have to look outside the county bounds for the next manager? I honestly think we now have no other choice.

thinkstoomuch1

ColeTrain wrote: »

Still think this?

Cork need new management, that simple.

Well I was wrong wrong with Kildare

I never realised bad as that
But everyone knows never rated management purely field play
Greats see lads never posted before suddenly posting also
You don't have tell me that need new management I said this after saw management make up selection team
Be good man now find old post please repost here please as your fast post other one
It took you til now see we need new management
Even beat Kildare we still I always said need new management

thinkstoomuch1

ShamoBuc wrote: »

I said it 2 years ago that Cuthbert was out of his depth.
A shocking appointment.
His championship results will surely prove him to be the worst Cork manager.
Brutal display.
Well done Kildare.

I feel for him as ccb hold main blame

largepants

Awful Kildare? Dont think so.

The White Feather

I am mad as hell right now. Don't mind losing but getting hammered and embarassed is terrible.

The only positive note is Colm O'Neill. The injuries that guy had and he was still busting his @ss until the last minute.

When a team plays like that, its down to the manager. I'd say the players don't have confidence in him. They look like they don't really believe they can do it and thats what a manager should be instilling.

Really seething how things have come to this. The buck stops with the manager.

thinkstoomuch1

ShamoBuc wrote: »

I said it 2 years ago that Cuthbert was out of his depth.
A shocking appointment.
His championship results will surely prove him to be the worst Cork manager.
Brutal display.
Well done Kildare.

Myself you sean mac said it boom boom ciarrailusith said it but we accused having agenda

Great see gary Neville view now when he accused us having agenda against management and being too negative and loosing plot
All agenda is Cork football nothing more nothing less

EpicPothole

Not watching on TV. Has cutbert been interviewed yet.

thinkstoomuch1

largepants wrote: »

Awful Kildare? Dont think so.

Congratulations good win good performance but Cork worst coached cork team in age
Kildare won't beat kerry at all and Dublin beat them well
Kildare deserves huge credit for win as whatever happens quarter final huge achievement them

ColeTrain

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Well I was wrong wrong with Kildare

I never realised bad as that
But everyone knows never rated management purely field play
Greats see lads never posted before suddenly posting also
You don't have tell me that need new management I said this after saw management make up selection team
Be good man now find old post please repost here please as your fast post other one
It took you til now see we need new management
Even beat Kildare we still I always said need new management

I'm honestly not trying to wind you up. I thought O'Connor was a massive loss to you today and last week took it out of you. It's a funny game, if Cork had held on to win the Munster Final, they would have almost certainly reached AI semi.

thinkstoomuch1

The White Feather wrote: »

I am mad as hell right now. Don't mind losing but getting hammered and embarassed is terrible.

The only positive note is Colm O'Neill. The injuries that guy had and he was still busting his @ss until the last minute.

When a team plays like that, its down to the manager. I'd say the players don't have confidence in him. They look like they don't really believe they can do it and thats what a manager should be instilling.

Really seething how things have come to this. The buck stops with the manager.

This was always going to happen only surprise is Kildare done it


Now people will actually belive me when I said kerry was false false dawns
Cork fans some so naive couldn't see warning signs
Chickens came home roost now

zetecescort

EpicPothole wrote: »

Not watching on TV. Has cutbert been interviewed yet.

nope, no interview given.

thinkstoomuch1

ColeTrain wrote: »

I'm honestly not trying to wind you up. I thought O'Connor was a massive loss to you today and last week took it out of you. It's a funny game, if Cork had held on to win the Munster Final, they would have almost certainly reached AI semi.

Stop stop stop please please stop
With respect Christ above look defence again and scoring never improved
O connor wouldn't made difference
Seriously now can we be honest
Seriously no logic back up your post

youngbob

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I feel for him as ccb hold main blame

I didn't see the match, heard the 1st half on radio. What was the final score? I agree Cuthbert is hard to throw fault at.He was wrong man to start with 1st day & no matter if you think your not up to it, it is hard to turn down a change to be in charge of your county. By the way I was in Youghal earlier & I saw a Kerry team walking around in their kit. they looked young would anyone know if it was the minor or U21 squad? Are they both left in the Championship? I'm not a big football fan

The White Feather

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

This was always going to happen only surprise is Kildare done it


Now people will actually belive me when I said kerry was false false dawns
Cork fans some so naive couldn't see warning signs
Chickens came home roost now

Well its like when Steve Staunton was managing Ireland, everyone wanted to see Cuthbert succeed and were prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. As he was stuttering along we hoped he could make it to the top.

But then comes the last straw and we have to accept he is hopelessly out of his depth as we have good players that are made to look ordinary/poor when he should be making them look better than they are.

ColeTrain

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Stop stop stop please please stop
With respect Christ above look defence again and scoring never improved
O connor wouldn't made difference
Seriously now can we be honest
Seriously no logic back up your post

You couldn't pay me to look at that game again.

O'Connor was a factor, lost a lot of ball at midfield when he went off. Cork looked very sluggish in the first half also. Plenty of logic there.

But I agree, the above doesn't cover the cracks. Cork have been in decline for a while now. No team fears them anymore, Kildare certainly didn't.

0byme75341jo28

youngbob wrote: »

I didn't see the match, heard the 1st half on radio. What was the final score? I agree Cuthbert is hard to throw fault at.He was wrong man to start with 1st day & no matter if you think your not up to it, it is hard to turn down a change to be in charge of your county. By the way I was in Youghal earlier & I saw a Kerry team walking around in their kit. they looked young would anyone know if it was the minor or U21 squad? Are they both left in the Championship? I'm not a big football fan

Could have been the Junior footballers? They had an AI semi final in Dungarvan earlier on.

almostover

The saddest thing of all is that was probably Donncha's swansong. A great servant to Cork football, great engine, leadership and skill. Best forward we've had with the last ten years and deserved a far better send off than that heap of manure.

As for Cubby, a man greatly out of his depth. However, it is nor him to be blamed but the CCB who are ruining football and hurling in our county. 10 years without an AI in hurling and a long drought looming in the football too. We've fallen so far behind in terms of coaching and that f**k of a carry on with Pairc Ui Chaoimh is the cherry on top!!! I'm a very disillusioned Cork supporter right now and fear the summer may come to a premature end tomorrow.

ShamoBuc

ColeTrain wrote: »

I'm honestly not trying to wind you up. I thought O'Connor was a massive loss to you today and last week took it out of you. It's a funny game, if Cork had held on to win the Munster Final, they would have almost certainly reached AI semi.

I can understand where you are coming from and reaching the semi would looked like being a very good year year Cork. But it would only have peppered over the obvious limitations we have with our current management team. I'm glad we didn't to tell you the truth as the CCB would have used it as the reason behind giving them another 2 years. As tonight and many other games have yet again proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, the wrong appointment was made 2 years ago. I said it then and have been saying it ever since. I'm not trying to knock them, its just simply the truth.

The CCB have a lot to answer for. It makes their next appointment crucial , another wrong one and the likes of O'Neill will never be utilised properly and football will play second fiddle to the hurlers, yet again , despite some great footballing players in our county. Players are there to make us competitive and make us as high as 3rd in line for Sam. But the set up and tactics must be right.

willietherock

ShamoBuc wrote: »

The CCB have a lot to answer for. It makes their next appointment crucial , another wrong one and the likes of O'Neill will never be utilised properly and football will play second fiddle to the hurlers, yet again , despite some great footballing players in our county. Players are there to make us competitive and make us as high as 3rd in line for Sam. But the set up and tactics must be right.

This is hilarious. The players were massively found out yet again at this level. The majority of players that played tonight are not related to top senior intercounty footballlers. The utter inability to kick a football are criminal. Cubby is gone but who ever comes in will be stuck with the same dross to pick from, a handful of exceptions aside.

slingerz

The blame goes on Cuthbert, the players and the CCB

The thing is will any of our local media actually ask the hard questions of those in the board or slide away into the shadows in fear of retribution?!

slingerz

ShamoBuc wrote: »

I can understand where you are coming from and reaching the semi would looked like being a very good year year Cork. But it would only have peppered over the obvious limitations we have with our current management team. I'm glad we didn't to tell you the truth as the CCB would have used it as the reason behind giving them another 2 years. As tonight and many other games have yet again proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, the wrong appointment was made 2 years ago. I said it then and have been saying it ever since. I'm not trying to knock them, its just simply the truth.

The CCB have a lot to answer for. It makes their next appointment crucial , another wrong one and the likes of O'Neill will never be utilised properly and football will play second fiddle to the hurlers, yet again , despite some great footballing players in our county. Players are there to make us competitive and make us as high as 3rd in line for Sam. But the set up and tactics must be right.

Colm O'Neill should transfer to some decent. county to fully showcase his talents

The White Feather

I am putting forward TTMs name to the CCB.

Who will second the motion?

Can you picture the laptop on the touchline with players waiting for the latest post?! Team talks would require Wireless broadband!

I have to laugh and joke right now as I am still trying to stop being angry!

youngbob

Still didn't get the score will someone post it (even though it won't be pretty reading. Cheers

dobman88

youngbob wrote: »

Still didn't get the score will someone post it (even though it won't be pretty reading. Cheers

1-21 to 1-13

The White Feather

youngbob wrote: »

Still didn't get the score will someone post it (even though it won't be pretty reading. Cheers

Cork 1-13 Kildare 1-21

thinkstoomuch1

willietherock wrote: »

This is hilarious. The players were massively found out yet again at this level. The majority of players that played tonight are not related to top senior intercounty footballlers. The utter inability to kick a football are criminal. Cubby is gone but who ever comes in will be stuck with the same dross to pick from, a handful of exceptions aside.

You talking though yourhole in football terms with respect regards cork football
Your same fella tried convinced me Kenneally beat tipp challenge fermoy good under twenty one manager


Have you actually any concept good management

Clearly English go in make huge difference
Bit advice you old chap look Donegal humiliation armagh worst ever defeat ist year mcguimness different team
Look how o rourke transform monaghan
Wake up in football sense you clearly don't go football games in you know talent there
Your probably hurling man


Sad say cork win hurling worse again as hurling people use it further excuse look football with contempt and neglect

I hope cork win tomorrow but should they people will say cork never should worry football just hurling and Cork had enough recourses do both


What is hilarious is you still refusing accept he's out depth as manager and selection team

youngbob

The White Feather wrote: »

I am putting forward TTMs name to the CCB.

Who will second the motion?

Can you picture the laptop on the touchline with players waiting for the latest post?! Team talks would require Wireless broadband!

I have to laugh and joke right now as I am still trying to stop being angry!

I'll second that motion. even it's just to put a face to this mystery man & besides he would be the most entertaining manager Cork ever had. I think CCB wouldn't stand a chance against OUR LEGEND. Only downside is I'd miss Cork,s very own Stig & I mean that. Frank would have found his match

smiley_face

No fault to him for effort, but why was Colm O'Driscoll playing as a wing forward, when to my mind he is more of a man-marking defender?
Especially seeing as Kevin O'Driscoll was already selected on the other wing. I would consider KO'D as a back, or possibly centre-field, but purely a workhorse and not a scoring forward.
Neither player are going to score many points and we definitely didn't need the two of them on at the same time in the forwards.
To make it worse Kerrigan, wearing 14, was playing as an extra wing-back and kicked some awful shots when he got forward. Though to be fair to him, he had to run forward as there were no proper wing-forwards able to shoot themselves!
Any one of those 3 selections in isolation would have been acceptable, but why all together?
We don't need 6 wing backs on the pitch.
Surely there are one or two scoring wing-forwards around the county that could have played instead of one or both of the O'Driscolls.
Or play Kerrigan wing forward and let one of the O'Driscolls play as the extra wing-back.
I'm no expert, but very early in the match even I could see that Cork were lacking a scoring forward on the wing, yet they waited way too late to bring on Hurley.
I reckon if they changed the selection they would have won comfortably.
I don't blame the players, but the game-plan was rubbish, and they wasted their energy in the first half the way they were set up to play.
O'Connor should have started on the wing, with Goulding or Hurley in the corner. That switch alone would have made a huge difference I feel.
Cuthbert will have to accept the responsibility for this game-plan, and should be removed immediately.

ShamoBuc

willietherock wrote: »

This is hilarious. The players were massively found out yet again at this level. The majority of players that played tonight are not related to top senior intercounty footballlers. The utter inability to kick a football are criminal. Cubby is gone but who ever comes in will be stuck with the same dross to pick from, a handful of exceptions aside.

Glad you think it's funny

We have the players to be competing, there's no doubt about it.
Firstly, they correct players need to be picked.
Secondly, the correct players need to be played in their correct and natural positions
Thirdly the management need to manage and coach the players properly. They can all kick a pass but were clearly drilled into hand passing.
And of course tactics. Cork footballers need to be able to play different tactics, depending on the opposition, the weather and during a game when it needs changing.
If we were to get it all right, we would be very competitive and near the top table.

You might think different fair enough but I firmly believe that we are a lot more capable than what we have produced in the championship in recent years.