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Hurleratheart

Connorzee wrote: »

Shane Kingston broke his leg against Clare in a challenge

CORK’S Munster minor hurling championship hopes have been dealt a devastating blow with the news that team captain Shane Kingston (below left with Kevin Flahive) has been ruled out for the rest of the campaign and in fact is unlikely to feature in the All Ireland series either if Cork defeat Limerick in the provincial semi-final.
The Douglas clubman sustained a very serious leg injury in a challenge game with Clare in the Banner County on Wednesday night. 1682926He has a broken fibula and will be in a cast for the forseeable future, ruling him out of any involvement with the county team over the coming months. EOHRochestownvNaSceil133566
The Cork captain was an inspirational figure in the opening round victory over Limerick at Páirc Uí Rinn a number of weeks ago, delivering 1-9 in the 2-20 to 1-13 victory over Limerick.
Cork trailed in that game by three points at the interval but, superbly led by the Rochestown College student, turned the tide around completely thereafter and ran out the most convincing of winners.
As events have subsequently transpired, Cork must now face Limerick again in the Munster semi-final with the latter now having home advantage at the Gaelic Grounds on July 1.
This is a huge game for both counties in so far as the winners will qualify for the provincial semi-final and subsequently the All Ireland quarter-final. However, the losers of that game will have their season terminated.
Limerick defeated Waterford in another make or break game after the Decies had lost to Tipperary and with home advantage and Cork now going to be without their star player, it will be a big ask for Denis Ring’s team.
On the plus side, however, the squad has been bolstered by the addition of Cork minor football captain Sean Powter, also from Douglas.
The injury to Kingston is also a huge blow to Douglas. He was introduced as a sub during the course of their SHC victory over the Barrs last Saturday night and he was going to be a hugely influential figure on their minor and U21 teams.

whoe wrote that?

Connorzee

Hurleratheart wrote: »

whoe wrote that?

John Horgan in today's echo. Sorry should've linked it

http://www.eveningecho.ie/sport/cruel-injury-blow-for-minor-ace-kingston/

thinkstoomuch1

Connorzee wrote: »

John Horgan in today's echo. Sorry should've linked it

http://www.eveningecho.ie/sport/cruel-injury-blow-for-minor-ace-kingston/

An awful injury and I wish him nothing but the best in he's recovery
A huge huge absolutely huge loss to cork in not so much that we don't have forwards to replace him we do but it's Kingston big game experience from last year match in the gaelic grounds and with rochestown is a huge huge loss

Mehapoy

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

An awful injury and I wish him nothing but the best in he's recovery
A huge huge absolutely huge loss to cork in not so much that we don't have forwards to replace him we do but it's Kingston big game experience from last year match in the gaelic grounds and with rochestown is a huge huge loss

A pity to hear that for the young lad, even though it hands limerick an advantage now in the minor game as they would be targeting him and he's a leader for cork, having played last year. Hopefully he can come back stronger and doesn't rush his recovery, will be a star in whatever code he decides to concentrate on, hopefully the injury doesn't change that.

thinkstoomuch1

Mehapoy wrote: »

A pity to hear that for the young lad, even though it hands limerick an advantage now in the minor game as they would be targeting him and he's a leader for cork, having played last year. Hopefully he can come back stronger and doesn't rush his recovery, will be a star in whatever code he decides to concentrate on, hopefully the injury doesn't change that.

I'd agree with all and a very good post
I hope he makes a good recovery

willietherock

Connorzee wrote: »

John Horgan in today's echo. Sorry should've linked it

http://www.eveningecho.ie/sport/cruel-injury-blow-for-minor-ace-kingston/

They must be some curse on the Cork minor hurling side. Keep getting sh1t Munster semi final draws, injuries to key players. Kingston is a massive loss and Limerick become strong favourites now.

thinkstoomuch1

willietherock wrote: »

They must be some curse on the Cork minor hurling side. Keep getting sh1t Munster semi final draws, injuries to key players. Kingston is a massive loss and Limerick become strong favourites now.

I'd agree and limerick are huge favourite now
It was always a tough ask to beat them twice in the gaelic grounds but this is a huge huge blow

CORKDOUBLE

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I'd agree and limerick are huge favourite now
It was always a tough ask to beat them twice in the gaelic grounds but this is a huge huge blow

So tough on the young man who has played a huge huge amount of games already this year and please god he will come back stronger ....I am sure his teammates will do everything to do it for Shane now ....

zetecescort

covered stand cleared

lim4ev

Connorzee wrote: »

Shane Kingston broke his leg against Clare in a challenge

That is shocking news and i really feel for him best of luck to him in his recovery

commonsense.

willietherock wrote: »

They must be some curse on the Cork minor hurling side. Keep getting sh1t Munster semi final draws, injuries to key players. Kingston is a massive loss and Limerick become strong favourites now.

First things first, best wishes to Shane for a complete and speedy recovery.

Secondly, we will beat Limerick.

Yes Shane is a massive loss. But I've said it before, this Cork panel is blessed with great forwards and the team won't be short on scoring power. I'm not for a second saying that he is replaceable - a player of his pace and power isn't. But Cork can still put 6 serious forwards on the pitch that are a match for any in the country. And they will still have quality subs who can impact. By the way expect Sean Powter to be officially added to the panel and furthermore expect him to play some part against limerick. This guy when he gets 6 weeks hurling under his belt will be formidable.

I've also said before that if this team has a weakness (and 'weakness' is a relative term) it's from numbers 2 to 7. This is the area that will need attention for next day out. I fully expect management to address these issues for the Limerick game. Expect positional changes from the the first outing and probably one personnel change also.

The psychology of this fixture has changed in Kingstons absence and in a funny way I think it has changed in Cork's favour. No longer will our guys be thinking that this is going to be a repeat handy win . Don't under estimate the importance of young fellas mind set for big matches. Cork will now have a 'backs to the wall' mentality which is bad news for Limerick.
This is an opportunity for other guys to stand up and I have no doubt that they will.

I for one will be booking my ticket for Munster final day as I fully expect cork to contest their first minor final since 2008.

lim4ev

commonsense. wrote: »

First things first, best wishes to Shane for a complete and speedy recovery.

Secondly, we will beat Limerick.

Yes Shane is a massive loss. But I've said it before, this Cork panel is blessed with great forwards and the team won't be short on scoring power. I'm not for a second saying that he is replaceable - a player of his pace and power isn't. But Cork can still put 6 serious forwards on the pitch that are a match for any in the country. And they will still have quality subs who can impact. By the way expect Sean Powter to be officially added to the panel and furthermore expect him to play some part against limerick. This guy when he gets 6 weeks hurling under his belt will be formidable.

I've also said before that if this team has a weakness (and 'weakness' is a relative term) it's from numbers 2 to 7. This is the area that will need attention for next day out. I fully expect management to address these issues for the Limerick game. Expect positional changes from the the first outing and probably one personnel change also.

The psychology of this fixture has changed in Kingstons absence and in a funny way I think it has changed in Cork's favour. No longer will our guys be thinking that this is going to be a repeat handy win . Don't under estimate the importance of young fellas mind set for big matches. Cork will now have a 'backs to the wall' mentality which is bad news for Limerick.
This is an opportunity for other guys to stand up and I have no doubt that they will.

I for one will be booking my ticket for Munster final day as I fully expect cork to contest their first minor final since 2008.

I'd probably agree with most of that I wouldn't be cock sure but surely cork will beat for me an average Limerick team having said that if limk made a few positional changes they could still trouble cork with or without Kingston.

commonsense.

lim4ev wrote:

I'd probably agree with most of that I wouldn't be cock sure but surely cork will beat for me an average Limerick team having said that if limk made a few positional changes they could still trouble cork with or without Kingston.

I certainly don't want to come across as cocky. It's just I think Cork have enough good hurlers to get over Limerick on this occasion. Fully expect Limerick to make a serious game of it but if both teams play to their potential I feel Cork will win it.

Mehapoy

commonsense. wrote: »

I certainly don't want to come across as cocky. It's just I think Cork have enough good hurlers to get over Limerick on this occasion. Fully expect Limerick to make a serious game of it but if both teams play to their potential I feel Cork will win it.

Could be the making of the cork team to be honest, they'll be thinking we don't have Shane it's up to me, nobody will be holding back expecting someone else to take responsibility...kinda like having a man sent off, should be a close one...

zetecescort

Any news on the intermediate team? Has to be a new panel from last year, yeah?

malascoile

can the subs from last years intermediate team play this year?

Pos087

Really looking forward to Sunday week, hopefully weather better than this weekend.

If our forwards get enough ball we should have to much for Waterford. People are making a lot of the league and yes it is after getting competitive but it is no where near as intense as championship. Everything about the championship is done professionally. Cork warming up for the league final had no speed. They all had odd bibs on them, one of them was even wearing a cit bib. This tells me the i's are not dotted and the t's are not crossed during the league. I except cork to be firing next week. We have enough up front IMO. Conor Lehanne has the ability to be hurler of the year. Hoggy has got a lot of stick lately which baffles me he looks like he lost a stone and has upped his speed. During the league hoggy as come out the field and won a lot of ball and scored highly from play as well as placed ball.

Our biggest problem will be if Nash hits short puck outs to Murphy who then hits a long ball into a crowded midfield full of Waterford jerseys. Why we need a sweeper for our own puck outs drives me mad. How does jbm expect us to win posestion if we are out numbered.

HillFarmer

Pos087 wrote: »

Really looking forward to Sunday week, hopefully weather better than this weekend.

If our forwards get enough ball we should have to much for Waterford. People are making a lot of the league and yes it is after getting competitive but it is no where near as intense as championship. Everything about the championship is done professionally. Cork warming up for the league final had no speed. They all had odd bibs on them, one of them was even wearing a cit bib. This tells me the i's are not dotted and the t's are not crossed during the league. I except cork to be firing next week. We have enough up front IMO. Conor Lehanne has the ability to be hurler of the year. Hoggy has got a lot of stick lately which baffles me he looks like he lost a stone and has upped his speed. During the league hoggy as come out the field and won a lot of ball and scored highly from play as well as placed ball.

Our biggest problem will be if Nash hits short puck outs to Murphy who then hits a long ball into a crowded midfield full of Waterford jerseys. Why we need a sweeper for our own puck outs drives me mad. How does jbm expect us to win posestion if we are out numbered.

I think a lot will depend Corks accuracy from their midfielders and half forwards. Horgan is crucial for Cork, Previously Connors has done very well on him. Likewise Lehane as you said is a serious talent. He was one of Corks main threats in the league final.

The Full back line may not be as critical against us either. I wonder will Mcgrath be tempted to push mor eforward to try to expose a perceived weakness in that area, but tbh I think not.

From Waterfords perspective I expect a repeat of tactics from the League final.

pluszap

Barry kelly is ref for sunday

Pos087

Thank god colm Lyons is from cork, he shouldn't get any of our games. Nothing worse than watching stop start games

thinkstoomuch1

Pos087 wrote: »

Really looking forward to Sunday week, hopefully weather better than this weekend.

If our forwards get enough ball we should have to much for Waterford. People are making a lot of the league and yes it is after getting competitive but it is no where near as intense as championship. Everything about the championship is done professionally. Cork warming up for the league final had no speed. They all had odd bibs on them, one of them was even wearing a cit bib. This tells me the i's are not dotted and the t's are not crossed during the league. I except cork to be firing next week. We have enough up front IMO. Conor Lehanne has the ability to be hurler of the year. Hoggy has got a lot of stick lately which baffles me he looks like he lost a stone and has upped his speed. During the league hoggy as come out the field and won a lot of ball and scored highly from play as well as placed ball.

Our biggest problem will be if Nash hits short puck outs to Murphy who then hits a long ball into a crowded midfield full of Waterford jerseys. Why we need a sweeper for our own puck outs drives me mad. How does jbm expect us to win posestion if we are out numbered.

Horgan gets criticism as he's the best hurler cork has and the most gifted on the field of play and more evpiernce than lehane and an all star and eight years a senior yet he doesn't always perform when the need is greatest in big big games


Let's be honest now he was poor considering he's talents for the glen in the county final??
Three games last year he was scoreless from play for the glen
Surely it's not baffling but reasonable to expect him to perform last week club game when he was fine in loose game but as soon as ballymartle upped the intensity and the glen needed him like Darren Mccarthy who stood up for he's club when they needed him with a goal but horgan is better than him didn't step it up
I'm sorry now but he's meant to be a leader and you see lads like young kennfick doolin and Liam coughlan as a sub getting stuck in surely it's reasonable to expect more and demand more from your marquee forward


Cody said in Ballincollig last year he'd be the cork player he wanted
Have no doubt cody see the gifted sublime horgan but guaranteed cody would make him better in he wouldn't settle for drifting in and out of games he would be dropped If he performed badly
He actually should of been dropped for a game for cork but this sense of untouchable in he can't be dropped imo hinders he's game and if dropped and was told he's place was up for grabs and just scoring frees is not good enough he'd be actually a really really great player
He's a great player sporadically in games but no where near the consistency of sustained excellence ring or shefflin or harnedy has for club or county as when he's off form he looks poor which is a injustice to he's wonderful talents on the field of play

zetecescort

Pos087 wrote: »

Thank god colm Lyons is from cork, he shouldn't get any of our games. Nothing worse than watching stop start games

Frees are frees. Delighted to see a ref that has read the rule book. I'm not looking to remove all physical contact but there is a right way to tackle your opponent and I'll happily put up with a few stop start games if it leads to players being coached properly in the skills of defending.

Hurleratheart

Mehapoy wrote: »

Could be the making of the cork team to be honest, they'll be thinking we don't have Shane it's up to me, nobody will be holding back expecting someone else to take responsibility...kinda like having a man sent off, should be a close one...

To say making of team a stretch but its shoulder to wheel now
Minors back together over weekend and have to drive on now without Kingston
kerry won All Irleand without Gooch !!! KK without Shefflin

Huge loss to team and desperate disapointmnet for him to add to his year, reports are hes mentaly strong as well as a powerful young lad a d if you would put your money on someone he'll come back stronger than ever

If cork minors still hurling in August Sept who k nows ?

A chance now for one of remaining lads to step up surely looney from aghada will start now - the talent in the forwards for this team is unreal and even without star man Kingston they are good enough to beat Limerick - but theyl have to fight like dogs

Result from Clare challenge was draw - leaving cents not playing and a few others injured so doesn't mean anything apart from the huge loss of Kingston

Pouter - another machine of a man- done very well v Clare scored a goal and a few points I heard

Murphy sars is new minor captain replacing Kingston OMahoney Newtown vice and final panel being cut this weekend - heard Murphy done well for sars last sat and John cash an flying with blackrock and set to hold down senior slot , done well against ballyhea too when he came in - cashman surely to step up to minors too - he's type of game a match up for Limerick for sure
o Mahoney showed for a lot of ball for Newtown in championship didn't score but done well to
Disapointed overall with some of younger lads in cship last weekend Douglas sorely missing Alan cadogan - game was very poor and if mark Dolan hadn't done a bit of magic Douglas could have been in trouble ward and o Connor poor up fron but found out since ward picked up broken finger early on. Eoin cadogan was effective enough in a bad game but Barrs in real trouble and fell away completely towards end Of the few minors came on Hennessy got on a bit. Ball in midfield but cahalane saw very little - Kingston replaced ward and done well of course but gone now for however long

Glen ballymartle much better game bigger bite in it - cahalane for ballymartle had great second half and McCarthy the star - some steal from Glen

Hoggy done well it's hard to criticise when your picking off scores but he has so much talent you always expect more
Young coughlan came on for Glen but got no ball really

Glen will be sick after losing that game

youngbob

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Horgan gets criticism as he's the best hurler cork has and the most gifted on the field of play and more evpiernce than lehane and an all star and eight years a senior yet he doesn't always perform when the need is greatest in big big games


Let's be honest now he was poor considering he's talents for the glen in the county final??
Three games last year he was scoreless from play for the glen
Surely it's not baffling but reasonable to expect him to perform last week club game when he was fine in loose game but as soon as ballymartle upped the intensity and the glen needed him like Darren Mccarthy who stood up for he's club when they needed him with a goal but horgan is better than him didn't step it up
I'm sorry now but he's meant to be a leader and you see lads like young kennfick doolin and Liam coughlan as a sub getting stuck in surely it's reasonable to expect more and demand more from your marquee forward


Cody said in Ballincollig last year he'd be the cork player he wanted
Have no doubt cody see the gifted sublime horgan but guaranteed cody would make him better in he wouldn't settle for drifting in and out of games he would be dropped If he performed badly
He actually should of been dropped for a game for cork but this sense of untouchable in he can't be dropped imo hinders he's game and if dropped and was told he's place was up for grabs and just scoring frees is not good enough he'd be actually a really really great player
He's a great player sporadically in games but no where near the consistency of sustained excellence ring or shefflin or harnedy has for club or county as when he's off form he looks poor which is a injustice to he's wonderful talents on the field of play

spot on ttm i think hoggy is blown up. if lehane took the frees for cork we would see hoggy's true contribution to this cork team. for the so called star player he goes missing for too long in matches especially tight games. for all his skill & physic he is too easily held. he's as big as cooper but does not have the toughness. i know he can be deadly from frees but more often than not when he comes off the pitch i always think he has something in the tank unlike kearney harnedy and a few others. i really hope this comes back & bites me in the ass next week

Hurleratheart

Connorzee wrote: »

Some good news re: Harnedy

Meanwhile, Seamus Harnedy has declared himself fit for the Semple Stadium clash on Sunday week after retiring late in the Division 1 final with a hamstring tear.

“I’m making good progress. I’m nearly back into full training.

“You’d miss being stuck in training with the lads instead of rehabilitation every night of the week. Thank God we’ve a great man in Declan O’Sullivan. He really helped me get back on my feet. I’m not too far away.”

Source: http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/waterford-star-pauric-mahony-facing-tough-road-back-says-brother-philip-333096.html

Heard cadogan close enough to

lukin

Hope the admins don't mind me posting this: I have two tickets for the Waterford game going for nothing if anyone wants them. They are stand tickets. I won't have them until later in the week but pm me if interested.
Edit: Just got a pm from someone who wants them so they are gone, sorry.

zetecescort

Harnedy still a doubt, Cadogan fine and Lorcan back in a couple of weeks

http://www.gaacork.ie/news/360456/Cork_Hurlers_Prepare_For_Munster_Championship_Campaign

Horse84

zetecescort wrote: »

Harnedy still a doubt, Cadogan fine and Lorcan back in a couple of weeks

http://www.gaacork.ie/news/360456/Cork_Hurlers_Prepare_For_Munster_Championship_Campaign

Brian Murphy looking a definite starter going by that. Have they had any challenge matches or anything behind closed doors has anyone heard?

Pos087

Horse84 wrote: »

Brian Murphy looking a definite starter going by that. Have they had any challenge matches or anything behind closed doors has anyone heard?

I think he is right to use Brian Murphy. This game won't be won it lost because of our full back line and if Brian is in JBM plan for the year get him in give him game time. Tougher full forwards are on the way later in the summer.

This might sound daft but if Harnedy has not trained I don't think he should risk him even if he is fit. Win lose it draw on Sunday we badly need Seamus fit going forward.

Give us your predictions so people. I will start it of Cork win by 2 points

commonsense.

http://www.rebelog.ie/news/360356/Rebel_Og_Award_for_May_to_CBC

Good news for Cork hurling. Munster rugby won't be happy.

Quote from the Principal

“Rugby has been the main traditional sport in CBC down through the years. However, the school is now anxious to facilitate all students in playing the sport of their choice. In particular, the school is fortunate at this time to have a large number of talented hurlers and a number of teachers who are senior hurling coaches at club level. Thus, the school has decided to further develop hurling as a main sport in both the Preparatory School, who are today in a Sciath na Scol hurling final, and also in the Secondary School in order to give every pupil who enrols in any year in the College, throughout Junior or Senior cycle, the opportunity to compete in all inter-schools competitions to the highest level, including the Harty Cup.”

Dr L Jordan, Principal