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Arc Day 5th Oct 2014

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    #62
    Harry Angstrom
    Registered Users Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    FIVE2_THREE wrote: »
    Perhaps. But I'm not one to play the coulda, shoulda.woulda game All I know is that the racing media must stop with the Japanese obsession. Deep Impact,Orfevre,El condor pasa,Just a way,Gold Ship. how many more of the
    "Horse of a lifetime" types do we need to see hit the wall in the Arc before they realize that they are not up for the task ? I saw all I've needed to see when Orfevre literally Stopped running before the line.

    The Japs will never win the Arc as long as their own jockeys are riding them. If Yutaka Take is worshipped as a superstar in Japan, then it doesn't say much for the rest of them.

    Granted, Soumillon was on Orfevre, but he was an absolute monkey.


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    #63
    jimjamcos
    Registered Users Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭jimjamcos


    mailburner wrote: »
    class
    ryan moore

    Man's a machine. Give him a million a year and get him to Ballydoyle.


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    #64
    Peintre Celebre
    Registered Users Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Didn't someone come on here after Treve lost at Royal Ascot and said that settles it Zarkava was better :pac: such an absolutely moronic statement especially since Zarkava never ran at four.


    I don't think words can really describe just how hard it is to win back to back Arcs. Treve must go down as one of the greatest of all time. Indisputably


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    #65
    Gringo180
    Registered Users Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Peintre Celebre wrote: »
    Didn't someone come on here after Treve lost at Royal Ascot and said that settles it Zarkava was better :pac: such an absolutely moronic statement especially since Zarkava never ran at four.


    I don't think words can really describe just how hard it is to win back to back Arcs. Treve must go down as one of the greatest of all time. Indisputably

    Treve beats Zarkava, no doubt about that. Not even at her best today. What a machine.


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    #66
    FIVE2_THREE
    Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭FIVE2_THREE


    Pure class on Display at Long Champ. Dr.Bolger shakes the hand of Dr.O'brien after he wins the Marcell and the other Fella in shot needs no introduction the world over. That's Lester Piggott who was on hand to see if Jarnet and Treve could Pull off what He and Alleged did.



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    #67
    NaiveMelodies
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    How much did she have in hand?

    What a superstar, and an impeccable training performance to get the two in a row up.


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    #68
    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users Posts: 16,498 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    jimjamcos wrote: »
    Man's a machine. Give him a million a year and get him to Ballydoyle.
    +1

    Ballydoyle are the pre-eminent breeders of horses in the world. By not having the best jockey in the world on their horses, they're not giving the horses the best chance and are thus damaging the reputation of their operation. If they have Moore as their stable jockey they will make their investment back on his retainer in spades.


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    #69
    FIVE2_THREE
    Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭FIVE2_THREE


    Francie Barrett wrote: »
    +1

    Ballydoyle are the pre-eminent breeders of horses in the world. By not having the best jockey in the world on their horses, they're not giving the horses the best chance and are thus damaging the reputation of their operation. If they have Moore as their stable jockey they will make their investment back on his retainer in spades.

    To be fair you can't keep somebody who isn't willing to be kept. Ryan has made it clear that he prefers the free lance approach and is not interested in ridding in Ireland out side of the big races. with 95% of Coolmores' top string in Ireland its hard to get him. besides the last 3 stable riders quit becuse they couldn't handle the pressure.


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    #70
    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users Posts: 16,498 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    FIVE2_THREE wrote: »
    To be fair you can't keep somebody who isn't willing to be kept. Ryan has made it clear that he prefers the free lance approach and is not interested in ridding in Ireland out side of the big races. with 95% of Coolmores' top string in Ireland its hard to get him. besides the last 3 stable riders quit becuse they couldn't handle the pressure.
    I'm sure you can structure the contract in such a way that Joseph could handle the bread and butter stuff that Moore doesn't care about.


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    #71
    nuckeythompson
    Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭nuckeythompson


    he has said before he aint willing to commit overseas due to his young family


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    #72
    Harry Angstrom
    Registered Users Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    FIVE2_THREE wrote: »
    Pure class on Display at Long Champ. Dr.Bolger shakes the hand of Dr.O'brien after he wins the Marcell and the other Fella in shot needs no introduction the world over. That's Lester Piggott who was on hand to see if Jarnet and Treve could Pull off what He and Alleged did.


    People who receive honorary doctorates shouldn't be addressed as "Doctor". It's not advocated by the awarding universities.


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