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If the UK asked Ireland to rejoin the Union, how would you vote?
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20-09-2014 5:03am#1If the UK asked Ireland to rejoin the Union, how would you vote?
1. Yes to accept rejoining the Union.
2. No to reject rejoining the Union.If the UK asked Ireland to rejoin the Union, how would you vote? 346 votes
Yes to accept rejoining the Union0%No to reject rejoining the Union100%![[Deleted User]](https://we.vanillicon.com/v2/ec88939d138952fce94db89a5749c975.svg)
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Depends on the nature of the 'union' - if it was a federated republic with a strong upper house where each country had equal representation then I'd could be persuaded to vote for it.
Also, the NHS would have to replace the HSE - the utility companies would have to be allowed to operate here - education would have to be 'proper' free - and we'd have to get the same motor tax
Queenie would have to go as head of state - she's a nice lady, but the whole idea of monarchies is way outmoded.
If it simply meant having a parliament in Dublin with the same powers as whatever the Scots get, and us returning a number of MPs based on our population size then probably no.0 -
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Henry Sidney wrote: »We don't want you anyway. Bad enough having the North, which we would gladly get rid of tomorrow, without taking the baggage of the South too.
It's really about time you stopped thinking we care about it to be honest. Stupid amount of UK related threads on here. Is there nothing else to talk about in Ireland?
If you don't like it then why don't you leave - have a referendum with yourself
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Buona Fortuna wrote: »Maybe, maybe not, but if for the sake of argument someone did, how should they cast their vote?
Are the Christian Party? If there was a large core vote out there for a right wing Euro sceptic party I'm sure that space would be filled by someone, it's not though.We do anyway. Admittedly we don't send them but there are a lot of Irish/Irish descent in UK forces.
Irish people fighting under the tricolour are not engaged in active combat in Iraq and Afghanistan. I like that, the Islamic extremists like that, everybody is happy.Yep we'd lose that 5 yearly bumfest of the political parties putting up there favourite gob$shoite.
It's 7 years. I'd prefer having an Irish hobbit as our national figure head rather than an Anglo/German hobbit as our national figure head. :pac:0 -
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FunLover18 wrote: »6 replies and nobody's called anyone a West Brit
No point in saying it anymore. Too far gone.0 -
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Irish people fighting under the tricolour are not engaged in active combat in Iraq and Afghanistan. I like that, the Islamic extremists like that, everybody is happy.
Really?
So this isn't a photo of ISAF Deputy Commander British Lt. Gen. Adrian Bradshaw presenting shamrocks to Irish service members at ISAF headquarters to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day?
http://www.strikehold.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/6989872337_555418eb06_b.jpg
Second guy in looks like he's wearing a Cavalry Corps beret?0 -
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That's simply not true. Politically the Irish are very pro European Union, the British on the other hand are one of the least and could potentially withdraw from it in the near future. Fine Gael are the most right of centre party in Ireland but would be seen as Lefties by the Conservatives. Our Labour Party is to the left of their Labour Party. Fianna Fail and Sinn Fein are quite different to the Lib Dems.
Irish people don't want a Euro skeptic right wing government.
Instead we have a left wing Euroskeptic party in Sinn Fein. Were we not asked to vote twice for Nice and Lisbon? Euroskepticism exists to a large degree in Ireland. Politically we are more aligned and close to Westminster than any other parliament in the world. We are more like the UK than anywhere in Europe, this is just plain fact.We have the Common Travel Area which means there are no added conveniences to having a union with Britain.
Other than the Irish Republican dream of a united Ireland and closer economic and political ties to our nearest neighbour. Yes, would did the Romans ever do for us.We would have to harmonise our corporation tax with the rest of the UK. Bye bye FDI!!!
This is where what type of federation would come into it. Ireland should be able to set its own tax rates but you ignore my point about the French having a go at Ireland regards this. Irish tax rates are already under threat. Perhaps a Union with Britain could safe guard Irish tax rates? Not as easy to bully.We would have to send our troops to Iraq and Afghanistan. We would become a more legitimate target for Islamic extremists.
Well we must not at all upset those animals in the Middle East who behead people. I see appeasement is alive and well...We could see a rejuvenated New IRA drawing Republicans from all corners of the island to violently fight against it.
Like above, this would be a democratic process. Are we really afraid of a few thugs with guns?The Queen would be our head of state.
Not necessarily and not a problem for NZ, Australia and Canada as well as a host of other nations. I would have thought we are over that insecurity.My local TDs voice would be diluted by having a larger core of politicians ( who would be mainly English and simply don't care about Ireland).
Again, depends on the make of a federation. Usually in a federation all parts get a equal say in the higher house like in the US Congress.Should we join a union with Britain? GET DA FUK...!!!
We are already in a union with Britain, its called the EU.0 -
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Could you just give me some real tangible benefits that Ireland would enjoy by joining the UK?
Well the NHS for a start - having had to put sick kids through both the NHS and the HSE, I know which system I prefer!
Free education - as in actually 'free' - not free with voluntary donations, fees for 'arts materials' etc
Proper accountability for politicians, utility companies, so called professionals and local administrators
Win a few medals at the Olympics
The roads......*
We wouldn't have to doff the cap and tug our national forelock at the German Chancellor or the French President and ask them nicely for more......
Plus, who is to say we wouldn't end up running the show? Historically, whatever country the Irish have travelled to, and whatever international institutions we've been a part of, we've always been pretty good at getting into and controlling the key positions of real power!
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Henry Sidney wrote: »more to the point, if the UK was supposedly asking Ireland to join the union, what would Ireland bring? What possible reason would we have other than a bail out?
the third largest trade surplus in the EU?
It would offset just over 50% of the UK's record trade deficit
EDIT: and, apparently, an economy that's growing twice as fast as the 'mainland' economy; a current account surplus of nearly €3 billion (compared to the UK's current account deficit of stg£18.5 billion)0 -
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