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    #122
    Old diesel
    Registered Users Posts: 5,786 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Interior mid-life facelifts very rarely are radically different to the original design. I wouldn't hold my breath.

    Well yes - but when the 1990 Escort got such a bad reception - one of the things they did on the 1995 facelift was change the dash - the plastics were still cheap - but styling wise the dash was a lot nicer - imo.

    The other thing is that the Titanium is supposedly a lot nicer - so if it struggles for sales - they may make the Titanium interior the standard interior to help shift the cars.

    I do think despite the criticism - that interior is still a step forward over the Mk 4.

    Its not a complete disaster in my view - but I DO expect Ford to get the whip out and improve the car more if it struggles in the market.

    Big issue with that dash on the Zetec imo is all the buttons it seems to have - I think they might be able to address that - and make the plastics nicer - they look okay in the pic though


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    #123
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,123 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It didn't even have to be a fancy setup from the Titanium. It could easily have been a more simplistic setup. Climate control, bluetooth and stereo controls could easily have been integrated into a simplistic touch screen with icons doing away with half those small buttons. You could then reserve things like larger screen, sat nav, advanced climate control, internet browser, etc for higher spec models.

    It's not a great vindication though if some people are already suggesting improving things on a car that is only on sale here a wet week. It's not as if they didn't have plenty of time to get these things right.


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    #124
    renofan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 866 ✭✭✭renofan


    I saw my first one today and was left feeling a bit underwhelmed. While it does look good it doesn't look "different". And the interior shots above don't look too good either.


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    #125
    MuppetCheck
    Registered Users Posts: 11,866 ✭✭✭✭MuppetCheck


    Saw a Titanium with the sport pack and sunroof outside Ford's place there. Looked fantastic, so much nicer than the zetec.


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    #126
    Stallingrad
    Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    This Mondeo has been a debacle for Ford. The sector was dying on it's feet even before the production delays. If it was ever going to succeed it needed a killer product, on time that could steal sales from BMW/Audi, this is not it and has been death by a thousand cuts. If people can't afford a BMW they will look at the Passat which is more premium than ever and has a better image. You may not like VAG reliability but they are masters at making the feel good factor, and their interiors are second to none. If Ford ever wants to win back this class it needs to throw out the rulebook and start again.


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    #127
    Oafley Jones
    Registered Users Posts: 6,460 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Interior mid-life facelifts very rarely are radically different to the original design. I wouldn't hold my breath.

    Really like the interior upgrade that Mazda have just given the 6. Love the exterior design, but that original dash let it down.


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    #128
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,383 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    What's this Vignale business about?

    https://vignale.ford.co.uk/en-GB/#footer


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    #129
    Oafley Jones
    Registered Users Posts: 6,460 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    What's this Vignale business about?

    https://vignale.ford.co.uk/en-GB/#footer

    Another coach builders name that Ford want to run into the ground. It's their top spec for the Mondeo, for people who really like depreciation.


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    #130
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,383 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    A modern day Vanden Plas?


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    #131
    Oafley Jones
    Registered Users Posts: 6,460 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    A modern day Vanden Plas?

    I'd have said Ghia first.


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    #132
    Old diesel
    Registered Users Posts: 5,786 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Stallingrad wrote: »
    This Mondeo has been a debacle for Ford. The sector was dying on it's feet even before the production delays. If it was ever going to succeed it needed a killer product, on time that could steal sales from BMW/Audi, this is not it and has been death by a thousand cuts. If people can't afford a BMW they will look at the Passat which is more premium than ever and has a better image. You may not like VAG reliability but they are masters at making the feel good factor, and their interiors are second to none. If Ford ever wants to win back this class it needs to throw out the rulebook and start again.

    But this car - flawed as it maybe - is nothing like the fiasco that was the 1990 Escort.

    We all know what happened after that - they came up with a Mk 1 Focus that was absolutely excellent when it came out in 1998.

    Theres the making of a VERY GOOD car in this - in a way the 1990 Escort wasn't.

    I still reckon on the outside its a nice looking car - one of the nicest looking modern cars out there i reckon.

    The interior - it looks like a major issue is that if you spec it up its nice - but if you don't its not so nice.

    Funny - no one criticises Audis for being gloomy inside with a basic spec dark interior - its just accepted.

    Its just seen as Audi wanting you to pay more to spec up the interior to make it nicer inside :rolleyes:


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    #133
    fricatus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    A few months on from the release of the new Mondeo and I haven't seen all that many of them on the roads around where I live.

    Contrast that with the proliferation of new Passats, which I seem to be seeing every time I'm out and about... I wonder what the comparative sales figures are.


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    #134
    ofcork
    Registered Users Posts: 5,355 ✭✭✭ofcork


    There are a few around alright but the small wheels look crap compared to the one in the tv ad on at the moment.


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    #135
    noelf
    Registered Users Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭noelf


    fricatus wrote: »
    A few months on from the release of the new Mondeo and I haven't seen all that many of them on the roads around where I live.

    Contrast that with the proliferation of new Passats, which I seem to be seeing every time I'm out and about... I wonder what the comparative sales figures are.

    Beepbeep stats till the end of march . Ford mondeo 1146 vw passat 1565 ..


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    #136
    Stallingrad
    Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    ofcork wrote: »
    There are a few around alright but the small wheels look crap compared to the one in the tv ad on at the moment.

    Passat is guilty of the same. Cars are bigger, yet for C02 reasons we will always have 16" wheels, which on most family saloons look ridiculous.


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    #137
    vectra
    Registered Users Posts: 15,506 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Stallingrad wrote: »
    Passat is guilty of the same. Cars are bigger, yet for C02 reasons we will always have 16" wheels, which on most family saloons look ridiculous.

    New Passat is actually smaller than the previous one.


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    #138
    cyborg
    Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭cyborg


    Yet you can get 18" alloys with fat 245 tyres on a basic opel insignia and still maintain the excellent 98g Co2 figure, I dont understand this.....
    Stallingrad wrote: »
    Passat is guilty of the same. Cars are bigger, yet for C02 reasons we will always have 16" wheels, which on most family saloons look ridiculous.


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    #139
    R.O.R
    Registered Users Posts: 12,673 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    cyborg wrote: »
    Yet you can get 18" alloys with fat 245 tyres on a basic opel insignia and still maintain the excellent 98g Co2 figure, I dont understand this.....

    Not for much longer due to new regulations coming for measuring Co2 emissions. Always wondered how it made no difference to the Co2 on Mondeo/Insignia etc, but upgrade a 520d from 17's to 18's and it's fecks all pricing up as it moves up a VRT band.


    There was a good stock of basic enough Passat's available from Launch, but few Mondeo's. Seen a good few on the road recently. We'd only had two through the place up until last week, but got 9 in on Friday! Red is nice, but Deep Impact Blue is the best (IMHO). Not sure about the Platinum White Zetec estate though.....


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    #140
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,123 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It's disappointing to see that the Titanium model doesn't get half leather seats as standard.

    €37k for this with cloth seats:
    http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Ford/Mondeo/2.0-TDCI/150514265268464210/

    Here is a similar priced Passat:
    http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Volkswagen/Passat/2.0TDI-150Bhp/153514279939577220/

    Passat will probably be worth more in 3 years time too.


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    #141
    Noccy_Mondy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,845 ✭✭✭Noccy_Mondy


    2.5k to add leather seats too....


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    #142
    martinr5232
    Registered Users Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭martinr5232


    R.O.R wrote:
    There was a good stock of basic enough Passat's available from Launch, but few Mondeo's. Seen a good few on the road recently. We'd only had two through the place up until last week, but got 9 in on Friday! Red is nice, but Deep Impact Blue is the best (IMHO). Not sure about the Platinum White Zetec estate though.....

    Would have to be the red for me or the grey.
    Its an awfull pity ford didnt have theyre finger out id say there was a lot of sales lost because of the delivery times for the new mondeo.


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    #143
    vectra
    Registered Users Posts: 15,506 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    R.O.R wrote: »
    Not for much longer due to new regulations coming for measuring Co2 emissions. Always wondered how it made no difference to the Co2 on Mondeo/Insignia etc, but upgrade a 520d from 17's to 18's and it's fecks all pricing up as it moves up a VRT band.

    .


    I hear the Qashqai is going through the same thing.
    Apparently there may be an issue getting and SVE with 19" alloys now.


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    #144
    Old diesel
    Registered Users Posts: 5,786 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Im sure Ford will quickly address the spec issues - the cloth seats on that Mondeo look a bit crappy vs the blue Passats much more attractive leather offering.


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