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Racist Irish Cartoon In Aus Newspaper

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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,481 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    A lot of the Irish stereotypes are true - that's the sad thing.


    Instead of shooting the messenger maybe we should sort out our own issues.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    It's about as racist as the corks hanging from my hat and the tinnys in the back of my ute.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    conorhal wrote: »
    The only place I ever encounter girls called Colleen or Erin tend to be places like America and Australia where those of Irish descent call their kids names vaguely refrencing 'the old country', thus calling them a bastardizations of Gaelic words for things like 'girl' Cailin or Ireland 'Erin'. It's the the Irish American equivalent of African Americans giving their kids a strong 'African name' like Shaniqua....

    Alannah is another popular one. I actually met an Australian girl of that name.
    It turned out that her Australian mother had called her daughter after an Irish
    friend of hers who happened to be..............a nurse!! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Give me a Colleen before a Sheila any day.
    The only culture that Aussies have is around their enlarged orificia.


  • Registered Users Posts: 455 ✭✭Skullface McGubbin


    I find the comic to be rather tame (and unfunny) but that's probably because politically incorrect humor doesn't offend me (and my own sense of humor can be quite un-PC at times too :D)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Good to see People perceiving alleged Australian Racism, Are above it themselves.... :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    I reckon Colleen is like Erin, a name used by loads of Irish Americans down the years but that you never really see used by people from Ireland. But the Aussies can be really over the top for that at times too, I'll never forget a guy called Patrick Oscar McMurphy who insisted on signing everything as "Paddy O'McMurphy" (I worked in sales over there).

    I absolutely loved it over there and came in for pretty much no hassle for being Irish. In my experience spent mostly in Sydney I tended to find that the people complaining about Aussies not liking the Irish were the same ones who spent all their time surrounded by just Irish people, living around Bondi and never really straying from Bondi beach/Junction while working for/with almost exclusive very Irish people and spending pretty much all their nights out in the three main Irish pubs (Tea Gardens, Cock and Bull, Scruffy Murphys) getting sh*t faced beyond the point most of the locals found tolerable (because surprisingly they aren't actually very big drinkers and have tight regulations on this), and then straight down one of the safe bets for a "full Irish" the next morning. A huge portion of the Irish population over there is very closed off, which is always going to lead to issues with the locals... I remember some Irish people I met shortly after I arrived there giving me stick all day over talking with a bunch of Aussies for most of a night out, for no other reason than them being Aussies. It was a bit surreal, so I cut ties there fairly quick sharp.

    As for the cartoon, meh. They are pretty bad about Aboriginals, Lebanese and to a lesser extent Asians at times (more so the older generations), and the cartoon here is just dumb (and to be fair, their attempts at wit can sometimes fall incredibly short like seen here) but while they like to give some 'banter' it's typically not with bad intentions - I guess you could call it casual racism/xenophobia which we have often been guilty of since migrants started coming here too, but it typically comes over worse than intended.

    If anything, a lot of companies prefer to hire Irish/British people since we have a reputation over there of working harder, and socially it works as a bonus as well. The amount of times I got any real grief over being Irish twice, I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    brooke 2 wrote: »
    Alannah is another popular one. I actually met an Australian girl of that name.
    It turned out that her Australian mother had called her daughter after an Irish
    friend of hers who happened to be..............a nurse!! :)
    And Liam, there's a bunch of Liam over there. Tell them their name is also Billy and watch their brains explode inside their heads. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    A lot of the Irish stereotypes are true - that's the sad thing.


    Instead of shooting the messenger maybe we should sort out our own issues.

    Because all Irish women are nurses called Colleen and working in Australia. We will ban the name and woman nurses. There, issue solved.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    If you look at the last words on the captions, it says colleens the lot of em, can you not see the bitterness here, swap the word colleen with something else.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 369 ✭✭RichardoKhan


    What would have been funny is if instead of nurses it had been the last couple of Ministers for Health.........


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    If someone could work up offence over that they shouldn't be let out on their own without adult supervision.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I'm offended that people are offended at such a shìte joke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Love the caption "sparks anger online"...


  • Registered Users Posts: 215 ✭✭Mike1961


    Skippy: tuh tuh tuh tuh tuh tuh tuh tuh tuh tuh

    Mike: Yeh yer right skippy .. them Oirish are a sensitive bunch o' dingos


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭lightspeed


    From what i was listening to on newstalk, the Aussie government are looking to recruit nurses from Ireland and the media seem to be taping to or attempting to serve the anti immigrant feelings of "They're taking our jobs" mantra.

    Similar to here and UK the way people comment about polish people taking our jobs here. Pretty poor standard of comedy and journalism and shines a poor light on Australia.

    I've never understood the pull people have to that place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Can racism be directed at a nationality?

    Nope, it's xenophobic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    If you look at the last words on the captions, it says colleens the lot of em, can you not see the bitterness here, swap the word colleen with something else.

    Why would you swap the word with another one? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Valetta wrote: »
    Why would you swap the word with another one? :confused:

    Because if it's not Racist now you can make it, Twist the words make up stuff that's not there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,646 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    ... can you not see the bitterness here...

    Oh, I can see the bitterness alright. Just maybe not where you're seeing it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    So journal.ie wants us to nuke Oz over this aye?


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,024 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    a shower of transported convicts is all they really are


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,777 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    It's a pretty crap joke/cartoon, I've seen 5 year olds come up with better.

    Plus can't think of any Irish girl anywhere named Colleen. Maybe they existed back in the 1800's.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,412 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Nope, it's xenophobic.
    Exactly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Of course it's not racist because Irish is not a race, it's a nationality. It's mildly xenophobic and I suppose mildly amusing if you're into that whole 1980s Jim Davidson schtick that most people are fairly embarassed about.

    I've no idea, but I suspect this the Australian version of Daily Mail/Express is it? Probably don't need to close the embassy just yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭juniord


    What would have been funny is if instead of nurses it had been the last couple of Ministers for Health.........

    would have to use a very wide angled lens to fit the last two in :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭The Drunken Destrier


    I wonder if those offended are the same people who don fake ginger beards and leprechaun hats every March 17th. There must be some overlap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭Gandalph


    OP you probably cry when you put on clothes that haven't been washed with your favourite fabric softener...talk about sensitivity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    This reminds me, I was monitoring with a team of 4 builders last summer. Their names were
    Paddy
    Mick
    Mick
    And Polish Mick

    There's a joke there some where :-)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,174 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Is this supposed to be offensive? Like a cartoon of a bunch of Australians arriving at a hostel here in standard Bogan wife-beaters and shorts, and one of them being a kangaroo? Am I missing something??


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