Brand name clothes

Do you wear brand name clothing at all, I cant see the point at all for example if you picked up a Ralph Lauren or Gant polo shirt or one from of M and S or a good one from Dunnes they look the exact same and the quality is the same, yet there is a huge price difference. That is all down to the branding nothing else.

darkpagandeath

No point these days, Price vs. quality. High end stuff would be worth it but not replacing penny's with river island and all that.

zl1whqvjs75cdy

I'd agree OP. My MIL is a terror for brands. She regularly buys truck loads of ****e from Brown Thomas. I was in their house at the weekend and counted no less than 12 sets of unopened BT bed sets. Total waste of money.

Gyalist

mariaalice wrote: »

Do you wear brand name clothing at all, I cant see the point at all for example if you picked up a Ralph Lauren or Gant polo shirt or one from of M and S or a good one from Dunnes they look the exact same and the quality is the same, yet there is a huge price difference. That is all down to the branding nothing else.

You couldn't be more wrong in your conclusions.

SpaceCowb0y

I used to spend a fortune on designer clothes but in the last few years I've given up on them. If i see something i really like i'll shell out (like for a good quality coat ill have for years) but I've been using the money i'm saving buying in the likes of H&M etc for trips abroad now instead and find it's a much better use of the cash.

Gyalist

Gyalist wrote: »

You couldn't be more wrong in your conclusions.

I think the conversion is that you offer a counter argument, so why am I wrong? I know the quality is the same most particularly between the M and S and the Gant/Ralph Lauren.

Duggy747

Dunnes Stores black bags make for great pants.

Shoes too if you're a bit artistic with a scissors and tape.

TimeToShine

mariaalice wrote: »

I think the conversion is that you offer a counter argument, so why am I wrong? I know the quality is the same most particularly between the M and S and the Gant/Ralph Lauren.

M&S make good quality stuff but it still isn't the same by any means. The law of diminishing returns applies so the best compromise is probably M&S.

Comparing Primark crap to Ralph Lauren etc. though is wrong and if you come to the conclusion that they are both of the same quality then you're mistaken.

Dramatik

The point isn't the quality of the clothes, the point is so you look like you have more money than you actually have and that you're not wearing the same **** as everyone else that shops in pennys.

rotun

I've loads of rl polo tops from when I was in the States 6 years ago. Still holding their shape, while any ****e I bought in dunes/pennys would be faded, loose and in the bin after a few washes.

Same for jeans, I wait till john rocca ones are on sale and buy three or four pairs.. they stay in excellent condition for maybe two or three years.

KSwiss tubes runners are the most comfortable runners I've ever tried. On my third pair now, and the original pair are still knocking around somewhere. Though I've never bought pennys runners so can't compare.

My ford well have approx 60% residuals when time comes to trade up, where as a cheapo brand will have lost a lot more.

So you may gain on the initial purchase of your cheap brands, but you loose out in the long run.

MidlandsM

TimeToShine wrote: »

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Comparing Primark crap to Ralph Lauren etc. though is wrong and if you come to the conclusion that they are both of the same quality then you're mistaken.

Especially after a few washes....fade and fall apart.

Ihatecuddles

I wear mostly American Eagle stuff, because I find it fits me better than anything I've ever found in the usual shops here. I spend an absolute fortune on it too about €35 shipping then €80 for customs, before I even include the clothes.

It's just so comfortable, washes so well and the jeans fit me like a glove. Plus I like the clothes. I used to buy a lot of stuff in Penneys but found it washed terribly or I just threw it out after a while.

TimeToShine

TimeToShine wrote: »

M&S make good quality stuff but it still isn't the same by any means. The law of diminishing returns applies so the best compromise is probably M&S.

Comparing Primark crap to Ralph Lauren etc. though is wrong and if you come to the conclusion that they are both of the same quality then you're mistaken.

I did not say Primark was the same quality its not, however Dunnes have 2 or 3 ranges of clothes and the good quality is as good as anywhere, leaving Dunnes aside. If you compare a polo shirt form M&S and one from Gant/Ralph Lauren the only difference is the label.

kneemos

Quality kit looks and feels better,lasts for years and is probably cheaper in the long run than cheaper gear.

suicide_circus

Unless you're buying seriously high end stuff (and no, ck, hillfiger, superdry, levi, all saints, abercrombie etc are not high end) more than likely they were made by some kid chained to a loom for a dollar a day.

AdolfHipster

Thats not a belt its just a cord, Hey man, he's ragging on your cord!

Being honest the likes of dunnes, Pennys etc arent dissimilar visually, the proof in the pudding is when you wash them vs brand names. More often then not the better brand are of much higher quality and actually last after a wash. Unlike Pennys etc that dissolve like an Alca-seltzer in water.

kneemos

kneemos wrote: »

Quality kit looks and feels better,lasts for years and is probably cheaper in the long run than cheaper gear.

Again I am not talking about cheap or poor quality I can see the reason to buy good quality but not just because it is branded, M&S is know for the quality of its clothes.

jimgoose

Harley-Davidson brand bandanas and arseless chaps for me all the way. USA. Yoo-Ess-Ayy!! Hooyah! :cool:

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

My arse.

Sugar Free

Brand name does not necessarily equal quality imo. That said, I would most certainly agree that RL > Penneys/Dunnes for quality and durability.
I'd also agree with a previous poster that most of what some people consider 'high end' really isn't, it's just brand name high street,

I tend to use M&S as my staple for work wear - good quality and reasonable prices. I have a couple of more expensive suits (400E+) and shirts (90E+) from elsewhere and now that I've got a wardrobe full of mostly decent quality items, I only need to add to it from time to time.

jimgoose

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

My arse.

My arse is right. I bought two pairs of trousers in Debenhams in Limerick last year ago in a sale, with some blasted brand-name or other on 'em and all, and they turned out to be a couple of dishrags. Dunnes stuff is quite decent these days, in our local store at any rate.

kneemos

M+S is very common,you'll meet ten people walking down the street in the same kit,morto.

awec

"You can't tell the difference" seems to be something invented by people who buy the cheaper stuff to try and convince themselves that it's the same as designer labels.

You absolutely can tell the difference. Especially when it comes to the fitting of something, particularly after a wash or two. Cheap shirts and t-shirts often look like they were cut by someone blindfolded.

Buy most of my clothes from All Saints. Have t-shirts and shirts that still look great 4 or 5 years later. Buy Diesel jeans because they fit the best and also last ages.

Gyalist

awec wrote: »

"You can't tell the difference" seems to be something invented by people who buy the cheaper stuff to try and convince themselves that it's the same as designer labels.

You absolutely can tell the difference. Especially when it comes to the fitting of something, particularly after a wash or two. Cheap shirts and t-shirts often look like they were cut by someone blindfolded.

Exactly. The saying "buy cheap, buy twice" still holds true generally. In most cases it is a false economy.

awec

awec wrote: »

"You can't tell the difference" seems to be something invented by people who buy the cheaper stuff to try and convince themselves that it's the same as designer labels.

You absolutely can tell the difference. Especially when it comes to the fitting of something, particularly after a wash or two. Cheap shirts and t-shirts often look like they were cut by someone blindfolded.

Buy most of my clothes from All Saints. Have t-shirts and shirts that still look great 4 or 5 years later. Buy Diesel jeans because they fit the best and also last ages.

Again I am not talking about cheap or poor quality, M&S is known for the quality of their clothing. I suppose it depends on what you call high end as well I would consider Gant high end and Ralph Lauren more middle to high end, men's shirts are an interesting example as well, in my M&S you can get very good shirts for around 50/60 euro and the quality is superb and as good as shirts at twice the price.

KungPao

I must admit I'm a bit of a snob when it comes to labels. If it isn't Ben Sherman, Le Coq Sportif, or Crosshatch, it ain't worth wearing.

Medusa22

I find this thread depressing, I would consider the clothes in M&S too expensive to buy, and apparently they are on the cheapest end of things.

Medusa22

Medusa22 wrote: »

I find this thread depressing, I would consider the clothes in M&S too expensive to buy, and apparently they are on the cheapest end of things.

Its not that they are cheap it just for the quality they are good vale, get something in the sales in M&S, they are worth it for men's clothes.

Sugar Free

Personally I wouldn't rate M&S in the superb category, especially not their shoes.

When I think of high end shirts I think of Charvet, Barba or some of the Savile Row makers, ditto for suits as well as a few other brands like Brioni (none of which I personally own lol).

For shoes I think of Lobb, G&G etc, maybe the top line of C&J.

Most of anything else is just good quality midrange or less.

Sugar Free

Sugar Free wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't rate M&S in the superb category, especially not their shoes.

When I think of high end shirts I think of Charvet, Barba or some of the Savile Row makers, ditto for suits as well as a few other brands like Brioni (none of which I personally own lol).

For shoes I think of Lobb, G&G etc, maybe the top line of C&J.

Most of anything else is just good quality midrange or less.

How many people dress like that every day. I haven't a clue who most of them are but I would take a guess and say they are very very expensive. I am sue there is a difference between hand made shirts and luxury shoes. I am more talking about good but every day clothes,

KungPao

I just picked myself up a Sergio Georgini leather jacket. I think it's fair to say I'm looking the business right now.

takamichinoku

Nope, never really. I've gone into clothes shops and whatnot a few times to try and make myself presentable but the combination of me being an ugly bastard and it being hardwired into me to be a cheap bastard makes me get all confused, then angry, then depressed, then angry again, the a bit flustered, then happy, then sad, then all the emotions get mixed up and I decide it's not worth the hassle.

Almost everything I've got atm is either primark or neatish looking old Irish farmer handmedown type stuff. Don't even have a suit!

Sugar Free

mariaalice wrote: »

How many people dress like that every day. I haven't a clue who most of them are but I would take a guess and say they are very very expensive. I am sue there is a difference between hand made shirts and luxury shoes. I am more talking about good but every day clothes,

Not many I imagine, I was just being a bit pedantic about what is superb quality!

daz1988

all cloths are the same some last longer some dont I buy most of my cloths online and then the odd time head into a shop spend a few pound buying going out bits thats all

Talib Fiasco

When it comes to shoes, jeans, chinos and some shirts and jumpers they're more than likely a good well known brand because they're gonna get a lot more use and need to be of good quality. But when it comes to tshirts and the majority of my hoodies and such I couldn't give a f*ck where I buy them as long as they look decent and will last me a while.

pcardin

Medusa22 wrote: »

I find this thread depressing, I would consider the clothes in M&S too expensive to buy, and apparently they are on the cheapest end of things.

have you ever heard of TKMAXX? you will get your RL, CK, Gucci and others for better price than M&S.

Pumpkinseeds

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

I'd agree OP. My MIL is a terror for brands. She regularly buys truck loads of ****e from Brown Thomas. I was in their house at the weekend and counted no less than 12 sets of unopened BT bed sets. Total waste of money.

I'd love to have her money:D I usually take a look in the homeware section of BT, 300 euro for a throw blanket is way out of my price range:(

daz1988

some women need there head checked the girlfriend spends an hour each evening buying cloths with only the best of tags she gets paid well but spends it all on cloths and then complains for the rest of the week

brooke 2

awec wrote: »

"You can't tell the difference" seems to be something invented by people who buy the cheaper stuff to try and convince themselves that it's the same as designer labels.

You absolutely can tell the difference. Especially when it comes to the fitting of something, particularly after a wash or two. Cheap shirts and t-shirts often look like they were cut by someone blindfolded.

Buy most of my clothes from All Saints. Have t-shirts and shirts that still look great 4 or 5 years later. Buy Diesel jeans because they fit the best and also last ages.

There was a spot on an RTE afternoon show a few years ago in which three
similar looking items of various prices were modelled - as in a coat for €80,
another for €500 and a third for €1500. Presenters and guests had to place what
they thought were the correct prices on the various pieces. They rarely got it right!
I particularly remember an occasion when Maura Derrane 'felt up' some 'leather'
coats to assess the quality, and got her guesses totally wrong!! As the same girl
would see herself as a connoisseur of fashion, I found it quite amusing.

KungPao

daz1988 wrote: »

some women need there head checked the girlfriend spends an hour each evening buying cloths with only the best of tags she gets paid well but spends it all on cloths and then complains for the rest of the week

I insist on my missus just buying regular cloths in Dealz but she won't listen. For her it's J-cloths or nothing. She says it's for the absorbancy but I know better - it's for the prestige that goes with buying the big labels. She'll put us in the poorhouse.

OrangeVarnish

mariaalice wrote: »

Do you wear brand name clothing at all, I cant see the point at all for example if you picked up a Ralph Lauren or Gant polo shirt or one from of M and S or a good one from Dunnes they look the exact same and the quality is the same, yet there is a huge price difference. That is all down to the branding nothing else.

I'm more for quality and price, if it says a brand in a really obvious way it actually turns me off the item !!

pauliebdub

Cheap clothes can be a false economy. I have clothes from Hugo Boss that have lasted over a decade and are well worn and clothes from H&M that i bought in June that are now fit for the bin after two washes.

_Redzer_

You definitely get what you pay for

kneemos

mariaalice wrote: »

Again I am not talking about cheap or poor quality, M&S is known for the quality of their clothing. I suppose it depends on what you call high end as well I would consider Gant high end and Ralph Lauren more middle to high end, men's shirts are an interesting example as well, in my M&S you can get very good shirts for around 50/60 euro and the quality is superb and as good as shirts at twice the price.

You'll get high end shirts online for half that.

131spanner

A good pair of jeans or a shirt is definitely worth forking out for. Wrangler jeans are milles ahead of Dunnes or Penneys etc in terms of comfort, fit and quality.

In regards to having logos splashed everywhere, I'm well sick of seeing a group of 4 or 5 young lads all wearing a sea-gull across their chest :pac:

DazMarz

I have to say, for stuff like shirts, slacks, etc., stuff that you need for a work related stuff, you cannot go wrong with Marks and Sparks. Their stuff is perfect if you need to look spruced up for working, it won't break the bank, and it's very good quality.

Even their suits are of a good quality and are perfect for office work, etc.

Obviously, if you want a suit for a more special occasion, you might lash out a few extra quid.

For stuff like polo shirts, I actually prefer Tommy Hilfiger, Hugo Boss, etc. I just find that generic polo shirts don't have as nice a "feel" to them. I have some M&S polos. They wash fine, they look fine... but I just find that the "feel" is not as nice as the Hilfiger ones.

Jeans. I'm a Levi or Wrangler man. I seriously cannot abide any other brand of jeans other than these. Look, durability, everything. I have pairs of Levis that I bought in the States years ago, and they are still perfect. One thing I do find, however, with any brand of jeans... black jeans suffer very badly as time goes on. They fade, they get grubby, etc. It doesn't matter if they're Levi or if they're a pair you got for €2 in Penny's. Black jeans depreciate a lot more than blue.

Most of my shirts are Marks and Sparks. In fairness, I wear them mostly for a work-like situation. But, they do the job. They are also comfortable and don't lend to being sweat boxes either. Ditto for their slacks and suits.

awec

Wait for sales if you can't afford to pay top dollar. Just means buying clothes less often but if you get 1 or 2 good shirts once or twice a year it's better than 5 or 6 rubbish ones throughout the year.

The_Captain

Girls like designer clothes and I like girls so I wear designer clothes so girls like me more

DazMarz

That all said, I have a good few Brook Taverner, Pierre Cardin, Hugo Boss and so on shirts, slacks, suits, etc. But these are reserved for the special occasions and so on. For everyday stuff, Marks and Sparks do the job fine.

The_Captain

The_Captain wrote: »

Girls like designer clothes and I like girls so I wear designer clothes so girls like me more

Years ago I knew someone who was convinced that discretely letting woman see that he was wearing a Hugo Boss suit was a magnet for women, my opinion was that if you went out with a woman was attracted to you because of your designer suit you deserve everything you get.

KungPao

131spanner wrote: »

A good pair of jeans or a shirt is definitely worth forking out for. Wrangler jeans are milles ahead of Dunnes or Penneys etc in terms of comfort, fit and quality.

In regards to having logos splashed everywhere, I'm well sick of seeing a group of 4 or 5 young lads all wearing a sea-gull across their chest :pac:

And when it's warm (or puzzlingly even when it's not) they all wear those t-shirts with what look like horrible grey tracksuit bottoms cut in half. Awful looking things.