Potential Racism during Muslim Festival

Hootanany

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/vue-apologises-after-families-barred-3943677#.U9p8jgCuty4.facebook



Furious cinemagoers say they were turned away from a busy Vue complex because they weren't Muslim.

Leon Jennings, 22, had been visiting Birmingham's Star City entertainment complex with two other friends.

But as he tried to enter the Vue Cinema on the site, which includes dozens of bars and licenced restaurants, he said he was turned away by a burly security guard.

Asked why, shocked Leon says he was told by staff the films showing were only for couples and families celebrating the end of Islamic festival Eid.

Vue Cinemas have apologised and promised an investigation.

Movies available a the time in the 25-screen, 5,000 seat complex included included Inbetweeners 2, Guardians of the Galaxy, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, Hercules, The Nut Job and How to train your Dragon 2.


I think it is disgraceful carry on by that Company, would or could this happen over here?

Faing

I'm sure our "No win no fee" lawyers are praying that it will.

Chancer3001

Ridiculously bad reporting.

Films only for couples and families.

So 2 friends wouldn't be allowed in?

Burly security guard - as if that makes any difference

Arbiter of Good Taste

Unbelievable.

I did the poll at the end of the article. Apparently 6% of people see nothing wrong with it.

Czarcasm

Hootanany wrote: »

I think it is disgraceful carry on by that Company, would or could this happen over here?

Anything's possible I suppose. But by your definition, there's the potential for racism everywhere. Should we be worried?

No. Because that would be daft.

suicide_circus

Some shiit-for-brains employees at fault there

Skid X

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Ridiculously bad reporting.

Films only for couples and families.

So 2 friends wouldn't be allowed in?

Burly security guard - as if that makes any difference

"Ridiculously bad reporting"? Do you not think the racist admission policy operated the security guard is the issue here? The cinema did not dispute the version of events reported by The Mirror.

Lapin

Hootanany wrote: »

Movies available a the time in the 25-screen, 5,000 seat complex included included Inbetweeners 2, Guardians of the Galaxy, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, Hercules, The Nut Job and How to train your Dragon 2.

If this was the only shít being shown in the cinema then the muslims are welcome to the place.

I'd thank the burly bouncer if he stopped me from going in.

DeadHand

Wait for it.

Had ethnically Asian boys been allegedly discriminated against in this fashion it'd be national news and the high horse brigade would be queing up on the boards for a massive session of competitive outrage. As it is, this will be an obscure internet story and dismissed on here as "bad reporting".

Grayson

He felt embarrassed for being white? Aww poor dear. How could you ever get over that embarrassment?

I know, go to a national newspaper and have a photo taken of yourself looking sad.

Oink

You have an issue with potential racism against non-muslims in the uk. Fair enough.

I have an issue with sweeping racist generalizations on boards, and casual racist remarks that go unchallenged, as if it's not a big deal. "Nigerians..." "Muslims..." "Travellers..." . As if @ssholes were all neatly packaged in one ethnic group for our convenience.

Maybe this discussion needs its own thread.

Anyway carry on nothing to see here.

DeadHand

Oink wrote: »

You have an issue with potential racism against non-muslims in the uk. Fair enough.

I have an issue with sweeping racist generalizations on boards, and casual racist remarks that go unchallenged, as if it's not a big deal. "Nigerians..." "Muslims..." "Travellers..." . As if @ssholes were all neatly packaged in one ethnic group for our convenience.

Maybe this discussion needs its own thread.

Anyway carry on nothing to see here.

Maybe you do need to start a new thread because the points you made have nothing to do with this one.

DeadHand

Grayson wrote: »

He felt embarrassed for being white? Aww poor dear. How could you ever get over that embarrassment?

No, alledgedly he felt aggrieved for being discriminated against because he was white.

Reformed Character

DeadHand wrote: »

No, alledgedly he felt aggrieved for being discriminated against because he was white.

I thought he was allegedly discriminated against for being non Muslim, what has his colour to do with it?

DeadHand

Reformed Character wrote: »

I thought he was allegedly discriminated against for being non Muslim, what has his colour to do with it?

He felt the staff made the alledged assumption he was non-Muslim based on the fact he was white.

Read it again, there.

mickydoomsux

'So I hear you're a racist now cinema'

jacksie66

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Phoebas

Skid X wrote: »

"Ridiculously bad reporting"? Do you not think the racist admission policy operated the security guard is the issue here? The cinema did not dispute the version of events reported by The Mirror.

Where is the evidence that there was a policy to exclude non muslims? It looks more like the security guy on a solo run.

Vue Cinemas have apologised and promised an investigation.

KungPao

I love the headline:
Vue apologises after families 'barred from cinema for not being MUSLIM'


Of course MUSLIM be in capitals, just so you realise this story is about MUSLIMs.

NotASheeple

Hootanany wrote: »

I think it is disgraceful carry on by that Company, would or could this happen over here?

Happen over here? You know the answer to that already and it is no.

darkpagandeath

I would be annoyed if any religious group hijacked a public area, On the refusal part if the guys had said they were Muslim. How would the security staff know ? Is there some kind of Religious detector they are using ? Easy fix was just to say they were Muslim.

Chancer3001

This paper just reminds me of Extras so much.

Onlookers said Millman was GLUGGING red wine

Skylinehead

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I would be annoyed if any religious group hijacked a public area, On the refusal part if the guys had said they were Muslim. How would the security staff know ? Is there some kind of Religious detector they are using ? Easy fix was just to say they were Muslim.

Public area?

darkpagandeath

Skylinehead wrote: »

Public area?

Is the cinema not open to the public ?

brummytom

Star City's an absolute shíthole anyway. The bouncer did them a favour.

Hootanany

Its not that bad nice Returaunts and bars but it is intimidating sometimes when there is gangs of youths hanging around

mickydoomsux

Hootanany wrote: »

Its not that bad nice Returaunts and bars but it is intimidating sometimes when there is gangs of youths hanging around

I hate youths.

Their suppleness offends me.

crybaby

DeadHand wrote: »

Wait for it.

Had ethnically Asian boys been allegedly discriminated against in this fashion it'd be national news and the high horse brigade would be queing up on the boards for a massive session of competitive outrage. As it is, this will be an obscure internet story and dismissed on here as "bad reporting".

You forgot these phrases

politically correct brigade

loony liberals

loony left

bleeding hearts

do gooders

Your post makes it seem as if you would be offended at people being upset about discrimination against Asians. I can't see anyone on the thread supporting and defending racism towards white people.

Arthur Beesley

Was the security guard muslim?

Arthur Beesley

NotASheeple wrote: »

Happen over here? You know the answer to that already and it is no.

Why's that now? Too few cinemas or too few muslims?

Hootanany

Arthur Beesley wrote: »

Was the security guard muslim?

I think he was just being Politically correct or another do gooder

mad muffin

Faing wrote: »

I'm sure our "No win no fee" lawyers are praying that it will.

No such thing in Ireland

wendell borton

There seems to be a lot of these stories emanating from Birmingham at the moment, first it was the schools now the cinemas.

Hootanany

Multiculterism is not really working there I think

Guy:Incognito

How come the inbetweeners 2 was on?

Hootanany

probally released early for the festival:rolleyes:

Glock Lesnar

The security guard obviously felt the white Christian is an easy target because if he had tried to stop a Jew they would have responded by levelling the local Muslim school

pickarooney

There's an Inbetweeners 2?

Any good?

FTA69

I saw Planet of the Apes there Saturday, it was a ripping yarn.

On topic, to be honest I don't know what was going on here? Eid and the events surrounding it are not exclusionary affairs. At the end of the daily fast during Ramadan there are often sporadic "Iftar" parties where people come together to eat and pray. I went to two of them in work with non-Muslim friends and we were welcomed and fed along with everyone else. I even went to one in the biggest mosque in London. In general, Muslims encourage non-Muslims to join in the festivities and they're often great community affairs.

Did the cinema make some bizarre assumption and decide to have a Muslim only day? Was it just a security guard acting the b*llocks? Either way the whole situation was bang out of order and the guy has a perfectly legitimate grievance.

Friend Computer

"Muslim" isn't a race, though.

DeadHand

crybaby wrote: »

Your post makes it seem as if you would be offended at people being upset about discrimination against Asians. I can't see anyone on the thread supporting and defending racism towards white people.

Lazy, thinly veiled "you're a racist" jibe. Can you explain exactly what in my post makes it "seem" that way or is it just a gut feeling you have?

We see no one directly supporting or defending racism against white people here but we see plenty dismissing the story or making excuses to an extent that I do not believe would happen here had the victims been of Asian extraction and the offenders white. As I predicted.

DeadHand

crybaby wrote: »

Your post makes it seem as if you would be offended at people being upset about discrimination against Asians. I can't see anyone on the thread supporting and defending racism towards white people.

Lazy, thinly veiled "you're a racist" jibe. Can you explain exactly what in my post makes it "seem" that way or is it just a gut feeling you have?

We see no one directly supporting or defending racism against white people here but we see plenty dismissing the story or making excuses to an extent that I do not believe would happen here had the victims been of Asian extraction and the offenders white. As I predicted.

Hootanany

DeadHand wrote: »

Lazy, thinly veiled "you're a racist" jibe. Can you explain exactly what in my post makes it "seem" that way or is it just a gut feeling you have?

We see no one directly supporting or defending racism against white people here but we see plenty dismissing the story or making excuses to an extent that I do not believe would happen here had the victims been of Asian extraction and the offenders white. As I predicted.

You can say that again:D

Tail Docker

Friend Computer wrote: »

"Muslim" isn't a race, though.

My Ma used to use muslin to drain cheese when we were kids, leading to some confusion... Then I discovered one is a white cloth with lots of small holes and an "n" and the other is a huge religion practiced by millions upon millions of people who don't like being confused with a cheese draining cloth. It was a milestone moment for me, discovering the difference.

Hootanany

Who said Muslim's were a race anyway

Friend Computer

Why did you use "racism" in the thread title if you acknowledge they're not a race?

Hootanany

Friend Computer wrote: »

Why did you use "racism" in the thread title if you acknowledge they're not a race?

Friend Computer

Why are you confused? This isn't an issue of racism. Sectarianism, maybe but if you acknowledge that Muslims aren't a race then "racism" has nothing to do with this.

Hootanany

The guy that was refused was a white person

Reformed Character

Hootanany wrote: »

The guy that was refused was a white person

That however was not the reason he is alleged to have been refused!

Hootanany

He was refused because he was not a Muslim is that not a racist act ?