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The superhero movie thing needs to stop...
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FunLover18 wrote: »Not gonna happen any time soon
homina homina homina.... I love this stuff...
no idea what justice league dark is...
And The Sandman is the greatest comic story every written, so lets hope whoever attempts it doesn´t phuck it up....0 -
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I am officially burnt out with superhero flicks after seeing X-Men: Days of Future Past. It dawned on me after the post-credits scene with Apocalypse. It didn't ignite any spark of anticipation.
I thought, "Oh, look. Another immensely powerful bad guy who will eventually be defeated by this ragtag team of do-gooders." Same with Thor 2.
I just don't give a **** anymore.
People keep comparing Superhero movies to Westerns and saying 'Well, there was a time where there were 50 Westerns coming out every year and nobody complained.'
The difference is that we don't have to watch the fate of the world get decided in every single western like we apparently have to in every single superhero movie. It just gets tiring. One of the reasons I love Dark Knight so much is that the scope is relatively contained; it's fighting for not even really the fate of, but one aspect of, a single city and the future of a few people, Harvey and then Bruce ending up condemned in the end (Heroism will often benefit everybody but yourself and often ruin you). It was basically tossed out in number 3 when they said **** it, let's do a nuke, I actually thought "a nuke, a ****ing nuke with a timer was there any other idea (probably cheaper, and better idea at that) that they deliberated before going to this one?
Man this scene, 5 people and a gun, and I had my heart in my mouth watching it, still do:
"The world is cruel and the only morality in a cruel world is chance. Unbiased, unprejudiced, fair."
The Dark Knight has been influencing filmakers and audience taste for years now (even unknowingly), people were still talking about it a year after it had opened like it was only newly released, the hype never dropped. It will be seen a classic in much the same LOTR blew people minds and hearts in the early 2000's
Iron Man 3 was superb and the fact that the major internet populace hated it confirmed what I suspected regarding taste
When Guardians of the Galaxy released, some people were talking about it like it was the 2nd coming of the golden age of cinema, it was good, but perspective people, it wasn't that good.0 -
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Adamantium wrote: »I am officially burnt out with superhero flicks after seeing X-Men: Days of Future Past. It dawned on me after the post-credits scene with Apocalypse. It didn't ignite any spark of anticipation.
I thought, "Oh, look. Another immensely powerful bad guy who will eventually be defeated by this ragtag team of do-gooders." Same with Thor 2.
I just don't give a **** anymore.
People keep comparing Superhero movies to Westerns and saying 'Well, there was a time where there were 50 Westerns coming out every year and nobody complained.'
The difference is that we don't have to watch the fate of the world get decided in every single western like we apparently have to in every single superhero movie. It just gets tiring. One of the reasons I love Dark Knight so much is that the scope is relatively contained; it's fighting for not even really the fate of, but one aspect of, a single city and the future of a few people, Harvey and then Bruce ending up condemned in the end (Heroism will often benefit everybody but yourself and often ruin you). It was basically tossed out in number 3 when they said **** it, let's do a nuke, I actually thought "a nuke, a ****ing nuke with a timer was there any other idea (probably cheaper, and better idea at that) that they deliberated before going to this one?
Man this scene, 5 people and a gun, and I had my heart in my mouth watching it, still do:
"The world is cruel and the only morality in a cruel world is chance. Unbiased, unprejudiced, fair."
The Dark Knight has been influencing filmakers and audience taste for years now (even unknowingly), people were still talking about it a year after it had opened like it was only newly released, the hype never dropped. It will be seen a classic in much the same LOTR blew people minds and hearts in the early 2000's
Iron Man 3 was superb and the fact that the major internet populace hated it confirmed what I suspected regarding taste
When Guardians of the Galaxy released, some people were talking about it like it was the 2nd coming of the golden age of cinema, it was good, but perspective people, it wasn't that good.
So If I didn't like Iron Man 3, I don't have good taste? Why do threads like these get saturated with such nonsense?. I found the last 30 minutes of Iron Man 3 quite disappointing, especially the usage ofthe other Iron Man suits, which for so many characters was incredibly dull0 -
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Really?
Spiderman - Skintight suit
Superman - Skintight suit
Captain America - Not quite skintight but still doesn't look baggy exactly
Human Torch - Fairly skintight
Green Lantern - Skintight
Most superhero costumes are skintight, male or female. Although female ones tend to be skintight and skimpy.
Hugh Jackman seems to be contractually obliged to strip at some point in each of his Wolverine/X-Men movies.
Dr. Manhattan in Watchmen is a big blue naked guy.
The Hulk only ever wears some torn up shorts
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Hugh Jackman seems to be contractually obliged to strip at some point in each of his Wolverine/X-Men movies.
Dr. Manhattan in Watchmen is a big blue naked guy.
The Hulk only ever wears some torn up shorts
I was trying not to mention the giant blue wang of Dr.Manhattan. Family site and all that 0 -
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Angel Knightess wrote: »I don't think you can include cgi heroes in this debate as there's a reason and a practically for being the way they are. The Hulk for example, is half naked because of his transformation, and partly because of decency (People don't want to see more of the Hulk than they have to), and in no way does it affect his fighting style. He's practically invincible so it doesn't really matter.
Again with Wolverine. Given that the guy is practically invincible, unless you have a massive supply of admantium bullets, it doesn't matter whether he's wearing clothes or not.
Aside from wearing skin tight bodysuits, some female heroes (SuperGirl, Catwoman...Okay bad movies) have their midriffs and legs showing, how is this practical in a fight. Male costumes have a sense of bulk and a completeness in that they cover most or a vast proportion of the body. Otherwise what is the point?
... {I won't quote your entire comment but will address it}
So it's the combat defense ability and/or effect on fighting styles of the suits you're concerned about? Your original point was about women wearing skin tight clothes but men don't. The implication that I took from that comment was that women are purely being portrayed as sex objects. That's been disproved (or at least a bias has). You can add Thor to the list of men obliged to shoot a shirtless scene. Haven't seen Black Widow shoot one of those yet.
Hulk was a joke btw
Also take note of Scarlet Witch in the upcoming Avengers 2 movie. In the comics, her costume was... revealing. They've got a much more conservative outfit for the movie though.
The real problem, if you want to get into the gender issues, is the disproportionate number of male superheroes to female. This stems from the source material being mostly male orientated.
It also doesn't help in the MCU that most of the strong female leads in Marvel's bank are licensed to Sony (Sue Storm, Jean Grey, Storm, Black Cat, Mystique).
I'm not sure where you're getting this idea of female costumes showing midriffs (again I get the impression your real point is to do with the objectification of women as opposed to the combat aspects of the costumes) or more skin than the men. Maybe in the old crappy 90's stuff but I'm trying to think of someone who fits that description from the MCU, recent DC stuff, X-Men et al and I can only come up with is Silk Spectre in Watchmen (but there was nudity all over the shack there). Running through a few recent francises...
X-Men - all wear similar, modest, uniforms.
FF - all wear the same tight suits
MCU - Pepper Pots has her mid riff out in IM3 but it wasn't a costume, she's not a "superhero" and TBF, if I had abs like that I'd have em out
She was in the Iron Man armour too in IM3, including the midriff section. Other than her, there's only really Black Widow and the SHIELD agent, both of whom wear uniforms.
I just think you're making a bigger deal out of the whole uniforms thing than it really is. Maybe if you could provide some examples it'd help.0 -
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Adamantium wrote: »I am officially burnt out with superhero flicks after seeing X-Men: Days of Future Past. It dawned on me after the post-credits scene with Apocalypse. It didn't ignite any spark of anticipation.
I thought, "Oh, look. Another immensely powerful bad guy who will eventually be defeated by this ragtag team of do-gooders." Same with Thor 2.
I just don't give a **** anymore.
People keep comparing Superhero movies to Westerns and saying 'Well, there was a time where there were 50 Westerns coming out every year and nobody complained.'
The difference is that we don't have to watch the fate of the world get decided in every single western like we apparently have to in every single superhero movie. It just gets tiring. One of the reasons I love Dark Knight so much is that the scope is relatively contained; it's fighting for not even really the fate of, but one aspect of, a single city and the future of a few people, Harvey and then Bruce ending up condemned in the end (Heroism will often benefit everybody but yourself and often ruin you). It was basically tossed out in number 3 when they said **** it, let's do a nuke, I actually thought "a nuke, a ****ing nuke with a timer was there any other idea (probably cheaper, and better idea at that) that they deliberated before going to this one?
Man this scene, 5 people and a gun, and I had my heart in my mouth watching it, still do:
"The world is cruel and the only morality in a cruel world is chance. Unbiased, unprejudiced, fair."
The Dark Knight has been influencing filmakers and audience taste for years now (even unknowingly), people were still talking about it a year after it had opened like it was only newly released, the hype never dropped. It will be seen a classic in much the same LOTR blew people minds and hearts in the early 2000's
Iron Man 3 was superb and the fact that the major internet populace hated it confirmed what I suspected regarding taste
When Guardians of the Galaxy released, some people were talking about it like it was the 2nd coming of the golden age of cinema, it was good, but perspective people, it wasn't that good.
Great post up until you said Iron Man 3 was superb .:eek:
Seriously that film is what is wrong with blockbusters today ,it was a really bad film .
The first Iron Man had heart and was decent but the trilogy became more and more outlandish and cartoonish as they went on .
Downey Jnr was going through the motions in the third film ,his constant hammy acting and tics became tiresome .
The Tony "has a panic attack” scenes were total cringe.
Its a kids film ,and that's the problem with too many of the superhero films ,they are too dumbed down .
That's why the Dark Knight is so bloody good ,its not dumbed down .0 -
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