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Water Meter Question.......yes, another one.

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    #62
    zl1whqvjs75cdy
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    O and what if you have a pump in your house? My set up is a large tank with a pump attached. Presumably the pump controls the water pressure out of the taps. So while Irish water may be able to reduce the pressure on the way in (i.e slow the filling of the tank) it won't affect the pressure out of the taps. Is that right?


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    #63
    Tokyo
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    donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »
    How are they going to reduce pressure on homes with no meters?

    The meters don't have the facility to regulate water flow AFAIK, so it's not something that they'd be doing remotely anyways. There's a stop valve beside each meter - all they have to do is call out, crank it down to 1/4 turn and your water flow grinds to a trickle....


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    #64
    emo72
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    mike_ie wrote: »
    The meters don't have the facility to regulate water flow AFAIK, so it's not something that they'd be doing remotely anyways. There's a stop valve beside each meter - all they have to do is call out, crank it down to 1/4 turn and your water flow grinds to a trickle....

    And would it be equally as easy to turn it back up?


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    #65
    Tokyo
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    emo72 wrote: »
    And would it be equally as easy to turn it back up?

    That would be wrong and I couldn't possibly condone it in this thread :pac:

    Assuming that they don't put some kind of lock-out device on the stop valve, then hypothetically, yes.

    The father works on the water scheme here, and is currently involved in getting everything set up for the handover to Irish Water. To the best of my knowledge the new meters will screw down in place of the old ones (in the new plastic covers - the old keyhole shaped metal ones are being replaced) - the rest of the plumbing will remain the same.


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    #66
    Satriale
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    AlanS181824 wrote: »
    +1 with this.

    My Nanny lives in the country and has a well so it isn't pressurised.

    It takes about 10 minutes for the sink to fill.

    It's unbelievably slow, I have no idea how she puts up with it.

    Although saying that her shower works fine.

    It's just the taps that take their time.

    Your Nan need a decent plumber...


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    #67
    TheChizler
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    Satriale wrote: »
    Your Nan need a decent plumber...
    Shower works off tank? Sink would be direct fed?


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    #68
    AlanS181824
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    Satriale wrote: »
    Your Nan need a decent plumber...

    Probably, it seems to just be one of those things about the country.


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    #69
    Sam Russell
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    Water meters were fitted in our street about 7 years ago. They also set up a remote reader on the local lampost to send the data back. No drive-by reader. They fitted a new water main and fitted water meters at the same time. They reduced water leaks to zero. They stopped monitoring the meters about 4 years ago.

    Our consumption was below average at less than 100 cu m per year. Using that figure, our bill will be 100 - 30 (free allowance) =70 by €4.88 = 341.60, well above the €270 it will be for non-metered consumption, (two adults, no kids).

    They have come up with the craziest cost scheme imaginable. Given they said the average would be €240 each house: then with 100 cu m/an:

    If they had a standard charge of say €140, and would then get €1 per cu m.
    If they had a standard charge of say €40, and would then get €2 per cu m.
    If they had a standard charge of say €0, (free usage of 30 cu. m) and would then get €3.40 per cu m.
    If they had a standard charge of say €0, free usage (30 cu m) and 1 child (20 cu m)would then get €4.80 per cu m.

    The free usage and no standing charge pushes up the cost per cu m. This has the opposite effect the politicos wanted. If there is a standing charge that is high, the cost per cu m comes down. But with no standing charge and free allowance, this causes people to see the cost of water to be huge, and a lot of people will try to reduce consumption by not flushing the loo. This is not just unhygenic but it also affects the sewage system, by reducing the flow of water and increasing the percentage of the lumpy stuff - not good.

    The commercial charges are €2 per cu m. The free allowances should be scrapped and a standing charge of €40 should apply. The government parties will pay a huge price for this come the next election.


    Free allowances for children should go on the social welfare children's allowance, not Irish Water. It is just daft to expect a semi-state operation to be chasing such nonsense. How about a free electricity allowance for babies to warm their bottle?


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    #70
    paulbok
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    TheChizler wrote: »
    Shower works off tank? Sink would be direct fed?

    Run the shower off the taps and the taps off the shower and she'll be grand.


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