This just takes the biscuit.

Henry Ford III

Photo and text taken from An Garda Siochana facebook page:-



An Garda Síochána

Send in your suggestions ! This learner driver was speeding at 151kph in overtaking lane M50 and was unaccompanied at the time and was not displaying L plates as required.
When Garda indicated to the driver to move to lane 1, the driver jammed on & stopped in the overtaking lane on the M50 motorway .
1. What action should Garda take on roadside.
2. Should driver be allowed complete journey
3. How should he be dealt with in terms prosecution Send in your suggestions

Henry Ford III

I think I'd throw the book at the driver btw.

Stallingrad

Car should be impounded and the driver flogged.

daveohdave

Are they asking for legal advice?

challengemaster

Arrest them for dangerous driving and tow the vehicle.

tcawley29

1: Lift the car
2: No
3: 3 years off the road with a 3000 euro fine

Edit: Also give the driver a Darwin Award

djimi

Ignoring anything else, the fact that they stopped dead in the overtaking lane of a motorway alone shows that they are dangerously incompetant.

Car impounded, charged for speeding, driving unaccompanied, dangerous driving.

Dangel4x4

The Gardai shouldn't be patting themselves on the back too much here.

They've looked the other way at unaccompanied L-drivers since the changes were made in 2007. People see the law isn't being enforced so they take the piss - "Ah shur what harm am I doing? I have to get to work too"...

In this case not only was the L-driver not accompanied, he/she was on a motorway, which isn't allowed last time I looked. They even have HUGE signs to that effect when you enter a motorway.

Anyway, a huge fine and lengthy driving ban would be great in this case, followed by an extra-tough driving test when the offender gets his/her licence learner permit back.

Or this:

Mark Tapley

Jammie Dodgers?

bmm

Surely the Gardai should be laying down the letter of the law, not asking the public what to do ! Gardai need to act seriously to be taken seriously !

tcawley29

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TTKXRvhAvM

daveohdave

bmm wrote: »

Surely the Gardai should be laying down the letter of the law, not asking the public what to do ! Gardai need to act seriously to be taken seriously !

My point exactly. What they should have said is: We've charged this bell-end with x, y and z, and we'll do the same to you if we catch you.

Kenny Logins

bmm wrote: »

Surely the Gardai should be laying down the letter of the law, not asking the public what to do ! Gardai need to act seriously to be taken seriously !

They're just dumbing down for Facebook I'm sure.

Moneymaker

Nail him to the wall

The fact he stopped in the overtaking lane is all the proof needed that this person has no business being on our roads.

porsche boy

basically, this clip shows what this idiot done.
I suggest licence taken off him, banned from applying for 5 years, dangerious driving charge and a large fine. simple point of it is he could have killed himself or someone else.


Car Driver Stops on the Highway, Causes Massive A…: http://youtu.be/pyP0ocxGy94

porsche boy

basically, this clip shows what this idiot done.
I suggest licence taken off him, banned from applying for 5 years, dangerious driving charge and a large fine. simple point of it is he could have killed himself or someone else.


Car Driver Stops on the Highway, Causes Massive A…: http://youtu.be/pyP0ocxGy94

dantastic

AGS posting about their triumphant win in bringing down such an incompetent driver.

Hang on just 2 sec. He was only caught because he was doing 150kmh.
The fact that he was out there at all is only a testament to the lax law enforcement. Clearly not the first time this individual is out driving. He might be incompetent but he has clearly been getting away with this for quite some time.

So to ask the same question right back but this time in the context of all unaccompanied L drivers.
1. What action should Garda take on roadside.
2. Should driver be allowed complete journey
3. How should he be dealt with in terms prosecution Send in your suggestions

In general it goes along the lines of
1. Pretend it didn't happen.
2. Yes, driving is a right.
3. Be a right arse but don't actually do anything.

the_syco

bmm wrote: »

Surely the Gardai should be laying down the letter of the law, not asking the public what to do ! Gardai need to act seriously to be taken seriously !

IMO, it's a test. If the public reply with an outcry, they'll apply due process. If the public reply with indifference, the Gardai will use the person as a scrapegoat, and show the world what the harsh sentence is.

Dangel4x4

the_syco wrote: »

IMO, it's a test. If the public reply with an outcry, they'll apply due process. If the public reply with indifference, the Gardai will use the person as a scrapegoat, and show the world what the harsh sentence is.

Doing 150kph on a motorway with no licence is straight-to-court stuff, no getting off with a bollocking, no ifs and no buts.

The Gardai have no role in his sentencing; that's the judge's job.

djimi

I hadnt realised that it was the Gardai asking about how he should be punished (I thought that was the OP; only skim read it really). Bloody hell, is that what passes for law enforcement these days? Facebook? For **** sake...

toastedpickles

djimi wrote: »

I hadnt realised that it was the Gardai asking about how he should be punished (I thought that was the OP; only skim read it really). Bloody hell, is that what passes for law enforcement these days? Facebook? For **** sake...

I heard if they get enough likes they might give him a slap on the wrist for being "very bold"

nice_guy80

I think the Gardai are just trying to highlight stupidity

On that stupidity note, I saw a car parked in the hard shoulder of a motorway the other day, but facing the wrong way.
I kid you not.
He had jumper leads hooked up to the other car.

tcawley29

dantastic wrote: »

AGS posting about their triumphant win in bringing down such an incompetent driver.

Hang on just 2 sec. He was only caught because he was doing 150kmh.
The fact that he was out there at all is only a testament to the lax law enforcement. Clearly not the first time this individual is out driving. He might be incompetent but he has clearly been getting away with this for quite some time.

So to ask the same question right back but this time in the context of all unaccompanied L drivers.
1. What action should Garda take on roadside.
2. Should driver be allowed complete journey
3. How should he be dealt with in terms prosecution Send in your suggestions

In general it goes along the lines of
1. Pretend it didn't happen.
2. Yes, driving is a right.
3. Be a right arse but don't actually do anything.

1. Issue a 50 euro fine unless the person is driving because of an emergency (ill family matter, etc).
2. If its a medical/family emergency then yes.

BMJD

Is this how justice is going to be served from now on?

LIKE to let him off
COMMENT to charge him

toastedpickles

BMJD wrote: »

Is this how justice is going to be served from now on?

LIKE to let him off
COMMENT to charge him

SHARE if yoo cri evertym

dr.fuzzenstein

Dangel4x4 wrote: »

The Gardai shouldn't be patting themselves on the back too much here.

They've looked the other way at unaccompanied L-drivers since the changes were made in 2007. People see the law isn't being enforced so they take the piss - "Ah shur what harm am I doing? I have to get to work too"...

In this case not only was the L-driver not accompanied, he/she was on a motorway, which isn't allowed last time I looked. They even have HUGE signs to that effect when you enter a motorway.

Anyway, a huge fine and lengthy driving ban would be great in this case, followed by an extra-tough driving test when the offender gets his/her licence learner permit back.

Or this:

The Gards will only take such action as seen in the picture if you're demonstrating for peace or human rights and if they're absolutely sure you're not a scumbag that might fight back. Much easier to beat up law-abiding citizens.

TimeToShine

nice_guy80 wrote: »

I think the Gardai are just trying to highlight stupidity

On that stupidity note, I saw a car parked in the hard shoulder of a motorway the other day, but facing the wrong way.
I kid you not.
He had jumper leads hooked up to the other car.

Stupid yeah but how else is he supposed to jump the car?

Notch000

this is why all learners driver are tared with the same brush and made display L & now even N(oob) plates.

Its the 1% of the population that are actually fully retarded and cannot be trusted unitl they pass a test and do there time.

smellmepower

Just PR for the Gardai really,most forces have been posting stuff like this on FB and Twitter for years,Guards have only recently caught on to this.

6 points on learner permit,car impounded and a few hundred quid fine would be my guess.

For Forks Sake

djimi wrote: »

I hadnt realised that it was the Gardai asking about how he should be punished (I thought that was the OP; only skim read it really). Bloody hell, is that what passes for law enforcement these days? Facebook? For **** sake...

Wasn't me, I drive a Volvo.

dr.fuzzenstein

TimeToShine wrote: »

Stupid yeah but how else is he supposed to jump the car?

Not on the fcuking motorway and after that there is no more argument.
He would have had to do a U turn on the motorway and if he didn't collect his Darwin award there and then, it should be 6 month ban with refresher training for idiots.
The fact that we hand out 2 points for driving the wrong way on a motorway just underlines the "shure, be grand" attitude in this country to driving.
I dare say that Ireland has very safe roads, despite laziness and indifference by the Gards.

Mackas_view

When did this happen?

smellmepower

Yesterday evening at 21:44 on the M50 going by the time stamp in the picture.

Jesus.

Crazy foaming at the mouth on this thread. I'm not entirely sure the advocates of flogging him were joking either.

Why don't we just give him the electric chair???

Carlsberg don't do overreactions but if they did....

Gran Hermano

Jesus. wrote: »

Crazy foaming at the mouth on this thread. I'm not entirely sure the advocates of flogging him were joking either.

Why don't we just give him the electric chair???

Carlsberg don't do overreactions but if they did....

The only over reaction I see is from the numpty who jumped on the brakes in the overtaking lane when asked to pull over.

dr.fuzzenstein

Jesus. wrote: »

Crazy foaming at the mouth on this thread. I'm not entirely sure the advocates of flogging him were joking either.

Why don't we just give him the electric chair???

Carlsberg don't do overreactions but if they did....

Seriously dude?
L driver, unaccompanied, on a motorway and jumps on the brakes in the outside lane?
I would say licence gone, but he doesn't have one to begin with, he has a learner's permit that allows him to learn how to drive, whilst accompanied by a licensed driver. Not go on joy rides, but drive around in order to learn so he can pass his test.
So, permit gone, pending a re-evaluation of his ability to drive. Otherwise known as idiot test, to make sure he has all his marbles and should be allowed to drive to begin with.
Then start from scratch, but after an appropriate period off the road. 6 months minimum.
Fine and points for dangerous driving and driving without a valid licence.
That is what would happen in a proper country where people (including the police) not just think "ah, this law malarkey is just a bit of a laugh, sure you can't take that serious".

ScottStorm

I saw it on Twitter last night, no mention if the car was impounded but the driver was summonsed for all offences.

Dangel4x4

TimeToShine wrote: »

Stupid yeah but how else is he supposed to jump the car?

TimeToShine? What a misnomer...

When you break down on a motorway, you:

* safely go to the nearest emergency phone (or exit your car on the nearside and phone 999) and tell the person on the phone your location and that you've broken down. The nice person on the other end might even arrange for a warning message on overhead gantries behind you, if available.

* hang up, go back to your car and stand behind the railing so you aren't killed if someone hits your stationary car.

* wait for a tow truck to be sent to remove your car from the motorway. You will usually pay for this if you don't have breakdown cover.

You don't:
* phone your buddy Lar to come on his tractor with de jump leads and his four kids and dog.

* stand in the road to flag down a passing car

We Irish are such clueless muck savages we don't deserve motorways...

TimeToShine

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Not on the fcuking motorway and after that there is no more argument.
He would have had to do a U turn on the motorway and if he didn't collect his Darwin award there and then, it should be 6 month ban with refresher training for idiots.
The fact that we hand out 2 points for driving the wrong way on a motorway just underlines the "shure, be grand" attitude in this country to driving.
I dare say that Ireland has very safe roads, despite laziness and indifference by the Gards.

Dangel4x4 wrote: »

TimeToShine? What a misnomer...

When you break down on a motorway, you:

* safely go to the nearest emergency phone (or exit your car on the nearside and phone 999) and tell the person on the phone your location and that you've broken down. The nice person on the other end might even arrange for a warning message on overhead gantries behind you, if available.

* hang up, go back to your car and stand behind the railing so you aren't killed if someone hits your stationary car.

* wait for a tow truck to be sent to remove your car from the motorway. You will usually pay for this if you don't have breakdown cover.

You don't:
* phone your buddy Lar to come on his tractor with de jump leads and his four kids and dog.

* stand in the road to flag down a passing car

We Irish are such clueless muck savages we don't deserve motorways...

Oh I don't disagree with either of you, I was just pointing out the obvious - if you want to jump a car you need to be facing the opposite way.

I do appreciate the aspersions cast upon my intelligence (or lack there-of). It's the least you'd expect.

Dangel4x4

If you were being sarcastic or ironic, I apologise for casting aspersions on your intelligence.

Jesus.

That sounds reasonable Doc. My post was more aimed at the "hang, draw and quarter him" posters.

It was an incredibly stupid thing to do and he'll have to be punished but its not like he had a gun and went around trying to shoot people.

zbluebirdz

Q: Is the Garda driver qualified to drive over the speed limit? (i.e. has successfully passed the CPD2 training course)

If no, then the Garda driver is punished. The speeding driver is not punished.

If yes, then call the speeding driver's mammy ... I'm sure she'll sort out the silly kid ...

porsche959

Jesus. wrote: »

Crazy foaming at the mouth on this thread. I'm not entirely sure the advocates of flogging him were joking either.

Why don't we just give him the electric chair???

Carlsberg don't do overreactions but if they did....

They should mount his head on a spike. I am hoping the fish and the crabs are having are having a good meal on his eyeballs.

dr.fuzzenstein

TimeToShine wrote: »

Oh I don't disagree with either of you, I was just pointing out the obvious - if you want to jump a car you need to be facing the opposite way.

I do appreciate the aspersions cast upon my intelligence (or lack there-of). It's the least you'd expect.

Always expect the unexpected, especially in motors.
Was half thinking you werent entirely serious...

dr.fuzzenstein

Jesus. wrote: »

That sounds reasonable Doc. My post was more aimed at the "hang, draw and quarter him" posters.

It was an incredibly stupid thing to do and he'll have to be punished but its not like he had a gun and went around trying to shoot people.

The Gards should be armed, so they can shoot people who stop in the outside lane.

pablo128

bmm wrote: »

Surely the Gardai should be laying down the letter of the law, not asking the public what to do ! Gardai need to act seriously to be taken seriously !

Well I think their commments are designed to get people talking about these issues, instead of zoning out when the road safety ads come on the telly. Just like we are discussing it now.:)

BMJD

pablo128 wrote: »

Well I think their commments are designed to get people talking about these issues, instead of zoning out when the road safety ads come on the telly. Just like we are discussing it now.:)

I'm thinking about my duckface on the Garda facebook page if the worst happens

Grab All Association

Moneymaker wrote: »

Nail him to the wall

The fact he stopped in the overtaking lane is all the proof needed that this person has no business being on our roads.

More than likely a she. I know 5 women (3 with full licenses 2 provisional) who drove the wrong way on motorways. Women are ****ing deadly drivers.

Me -Full license holder 8 years driving no points (yes no points) no claims

Sister- Provisional license few years now. 6 points 4 accidents.

TimeToShine

Chris___ wrote: »

More than likely a she. I know 5 women (3 with full licenses 2 provisional) who drove the wrong way on motorways. Women are ****ing deadly drivers.

Me -Full license holder 8 years driving no points (yes no points) no claims

Sister- Provisional license few years now. 6 points 4 accidents.

Completely anecdotal. And although likely to be true that kind of talk doesn't go down well 'round here!

magentis

Chris___ wrote: »

More than likely a she. I know 5 women (3 with full licenses 2 provisional) who drove the wrong way on motorways. Women are ****ing deadly drivers.

Me -Full license holder 8 years driving no points (yes no points) no claims

Sister- Provisional license few years now. 6 points 4 accidents.

Shouldn't go around bragging about that $hit chris.
Don't cha know you are going to get 12 points between now and the end of july.

Guy:Incognito

Jesus. wrote: »

It was an incredibly stupid thing to do and he'll have to be punished but its not like he had a gun and went around trying to shoot people.

What the driver did had the potential to kill as many people as someone with a gun. In heavy traffic travelling at similar speeds that could be one huge pileup.