Gave up wheat and gained weight?

adton84

Recently I gave up eating wheat after becoming convinced that I had a wheat intolerance and after reading a book called "Wheat Belly", I was completely convinced beyond doubt that wheat was responsible for not being able to lose weight.
After the first week, I was down 7lb, but after the second week, I was up 7lb. Now I feel completely miserable. I have struggled with my weight my whole life, tried Weight Watchers, Juicemaster diet, even a regime at my local gym of cardio and specialised foods, have tried the basics of just calorie counting and exercise, Atkins, Dukan, all to no avail.
I've been tested for Thyroid issues and there are none.
Could anyone please help?
Thanks

sebcity

What made you think you have a wheat intolerance as a matter of interest?

I get get bad heartburn after I eat bread and weetabix so that makes me think I have the intolerance so have mostly cut it out of my diet. I definitely haven't lost any weight because of it.

discus

Weightloss doesn't happen over 2 weeks, mate. You need to stick with something for a few months before you'll see permanent changes.

nice_guy80

Keep a food diary.
Something had to replace the wheat.

Bruno26

What were you eating instead?

If you are eating other grains then it will be hard to lose weight. Are you eating much processed food?

Greenmachine

Do you mean you gained back the 7lb you lost the previous week? Or that you gained an additional 7lb above pre-diet weight.

OP if you gained a stone in a week I think you have bigger issues than wheat.
Are you keeping track of everything you're eating including weighing the food, are you giving up when you don't get results after 2 weeks, are you starve/bingeing?

adton84

I believe I have a wheat intolerance as I constantly have indigestion, cramps in my stomach, IBS.
I gained the 7lb that I lost back the following week.
I am thinking that maybe I should cut out carbs in all forms aswell to push the weight loss.

adton84

Bruno26 wrote: »

What were you eating instead?

If you are eating other grains then it will be hard to lose weight. Are you eating much processed food?

No, not eating processed food at all.

Caliden

Food diary and weigh your food to get accurate readings so you can calorie count.

Estimating is pointless when it comes to portion size.

adton84

bluewolf wrote: »

OP if you gained a stone in a week I think you have bigger issues than wheat.
Are you keeping track of everything you're eating including weighing the food, are you giving up when you don't get results after 2 weeks, are you starve/bingeing?

No I'm not giving up but not sure what to do. I don't binge or starve and have always thought that I ate quite healthy, but something is defo wrong.

adton84

discus wrote: »

Weightloss doesn't happen over 2 weeks, mate. You need to stick with something for a few months before you'll see permanent changes.

Yes I agree. However, after reading the book "Wheat Belly" and hearing about all the success stories, and having being told by others how much they lost over 2 weeks, I was hoping to have lost something.

What weight and height are you
What kind of food are you typically eating now

Bruno26

adton84 wrote: »

No, not eating processed food at all.

I see. What do you eat on a typical day? Do you eat other grains? Do you eat lots of fruit and nuts?

brencork

Maybe try having a chat with your GP or perhaps a registered dietitian? They may be able to help you out.

Symptoms you describe could be due to a wide range of issues.

Tigerandahalf

Are you doing any exercise? Without exercise it will be very difficult. Are you eating after 9pm?
I believe I have some sort of intolerance too to grains. I did a food allergy test and it showed intolerance. Food tests are still a grey area though with many including doctors thinking they are a waste of time. I can get a lot of wind after eating certain foods and my stomach can get bloated. I did a blood test for coeliac disease but it was negative.

Hanley

You lost 7lb from cutting out carbs in week 1. You gained it cos you added somethig else in to compensate in week 2.

And technically you didn't gain weight over that period. You just maintained it

RidleyRider

This isn't complicated. You cut out wheat, still felt hungry after eating and replaced it with something else and made up the other kcals.

There isn't any other explaination. Food diary, count calories and add exercise. Come back in two weeks.

It happened, big deal. Go out now and fcuking kill those 7 pounds and 7 more to go with it. You'll spend more time now looking to find/blame something when you could be prepping tomorrow's meals, out exercising etc..

adton84

bluewolf wrote: »

What weight and height are you
What kind of food are you typically eating now

I'm now the heaviest I've ever been, tipping the scales at 19st10lb, I'm 5ft10

adton84

RidleyRider wrote: »

This isn't complicated. You cut out wheat, still felt hungry after eating and replaced it with something else and made up the other kcals.

There isn't any other explaination. Food diary, count calories and add exercise. Come back in two weeks.

It happened, big deal. Go out now and fcuking kill those 7 pounds and 7 more to go with it. You'll spend more time now looking to find/blame something when you could be prepping tomorrow's meals, out exercising etc..

That's the thing, in week two I was just as strict as in week one and didn't add anything new. I go to the gym 3 times a week and do 40 mins of cardio.

I plan to keep going and fingers crossed I'll be able to report something positive next week.

Thephantomsmask

You probably lost a load of water weight in the first week OP and regained it the second, my weight can change by 2-3kg overnight just by eating something salty. It wasn't 7lbs of fat lost and then regained. Keep up the work with trying to lose weight and you will see dividends, it just requires patience.

generalmental

adton84 wrote: »

That's the thing, in week two I was just as strict as in week one and didn't add anything new. I go to the gym 3 times a week and do 40 mins of cardio.

I plan to keep going and fingers crossed I'll be able to report something positive next week.

Whatever you do don't cut out fibre. I cut out nearly everything apart from protein a la the Atkins diet and now I have diverticulitis disease and im only 35.

I haven't had a bowel movement in nearly 3 weeks and the pain is unreal.

Doctor told me that diverticulitis is more prevalent in people over 50 so just balance everything cut out all processed crap and get plenty of water and exercise

Bruno26

adton84 wrote: »

That's the thing, in week two I was just as strict as in week one and didn't add anything new. I go to the gym 3 times a week and do 40 mins of cardio.

I plan to keep going and fingers crossed I'll be able to report something positive next week.

Does your diet consist only of meat, fish, eggs, full fat dairy, lots of green veg, limited starchy veg, some fruit mostly berries and some nuts?

Dravokivich

adton84 wrote: »

Yes I agree. However, after reading the book "Wheat Belly" and hearing about all the success stories, and having being told by others how much they lost over 2 weeks, I was hoping to have lost something.

If you want to burn off something quick, I suggest you start with the book. it sounds like it's telling you what's wrong and you are keeping up with it in following posts.

Weightloss is down to mainly changing your diet. But just taking Wheat out, isn't the be all and end all of it. If a solution to your problem is so simple, you either don't understand the problem, or have the wrong solution. The first thing I thought after reading your OP was "well what else did you do after taking out wheat?" And that's what the bulk of the responses here are in reference to. Just because you're of the opinion the food you are eating is healthy because it isn't processed, doesn't mean you aren't over eating it. You are the same height as me but nearly 5 stone heavier, you must be eating an enormous amount of more food than you think to keep that up. All of this right now is down to quantities. If you don't look at what these are now and put in a plan to bring'em down over time, there's very little to be expected.

Also, don't go by just one source. Even in the op you state you're "convinced" by that one single solitary source. You need to look at a lot of different things, to learn. Once you get the diet in check, look into weights.

adton84

Bruno26 wrote: »

Does your diet consist only of meat, fish, eggs, full fat dairy, lots of green veg, limited starchy veg, some fruit mostly berries and some nuts?

For the most part, Yes. I can't eat green veg as they give me bad cramp.

Stench Blossoms

ALL green veg gives you cramps?

adton84

Dravokivich wrote: »

If you want to burn off something quick, I suggest you start with the book. it sounds like it's telling you what's wrong and you are keeping up with it in following posts.

Weightloss is down to mainly changing your diet. But just taking Wheat out, isn't the be all and end all of it. If a solution to your problem is so simple, you either don't understand the problem, or have the wrong solution. The first thing I thought after reading your OP was "well what else did you do after taking out wheat?" And that's what the bulk of the responses here are in reference to. Just because you're of the opinion the food you are eating is healthy because it isn't processed, doesn't mean you aren't over eating it. You are the same height as me but nearly 5 stone heavier, you must be eating an enormous amount of more food than you think to keep that up. All of this right now is down to quantities. If you don't look at what these are now and put in a plan to bring'em down over time, there's very little to be expected.

Also, don't go by just one source. Even in the op you state you're "convinced" by that one single solitary source. You need to look at a lot of different things, to learn. Once you get the diet in check, look into weights.

Thanks for that post, you are right. However, regarding the eating, I don't eat much at all. And when I do it's small portions that I eat. I was on a lot of medication over the past 4 years which I gained over 4 stone whilst taking. I am no longer on them.
I did buy into the book too much though, thinking it was the answer and just by removing wheat and keeping up my exercise that I would lose weight.
I need to go back to square one and look at the overall picture.

adton84

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

ALL green veg gives you cramps?

All that I have tried with the exception of green beans.

28064212

adton84 wrote: »

Thanks for that post, you are right. However, regarding the eating, I don't eat much at all. And when I do it's small portions that I eat.

How many calories did you take in yesterday? Day before? Two weeks ago? "I don't eat much at all" means absolutely nothing

adton84

28064212 wrote: »

How many calories did you take in yesterday? Day before? Two weeks ago? "I don't eat much at all" means absolutely nothing

1440 yesterday and usually between 1000 - 1500

Oryx

Your 'not too much at all' might be my gargantuan feast. You need to know exactly, by weight, what you are eating. As per your op, guessing and estimating is not working. Wheat is not the be all and end all of your problems, the overall amount of calories you are eating is the problem. I hate these books which claim to have the ultimate answer, because generally they create excuses in peoples minds, 'its not eating too much, its the wheat/carbs/fat'.

Get down to basics. List what you eat. Everything.

Reekwind

adton84 wrote:

1440 yesterday and usually between 1000 - 1500

You're counting them wrong. It is not possible to gain half a stone in a week while consuming max 1,500 calories.

28064212

adton84 wrote: »

1440 yesterday and usually between 1000 - 1500

Did you weigh what you're eating? Or are you just estimating? Did you record Every. Single. Thing. you ate or drank? I find it extremely difficult to believe that you usually run a 1000 calorie deficit from your approximate daily "maintenance" needs, and still maintain your weight

Dravokivich

adton84 wrote: »

Thanks for that post, you are right. However, regarding the eating, I don't eat much at all. And when I do it's small portions that I eat. I was on a lot of medication over the past 4 years which I gained over 4 stone whilst taking. I am no longer on them.
I did buy into the book too much though, thinking it was the answer and just by removing wheat and keeping up my exercise that I would lose weight.
I need to go back to square one and look at the overall picture.

This is the exact same as a friend of mine used to be. Then he'd look on in envy of the one big meal I'd have a day along with what he didn't see as a couple of much smaller meals/snacks. When he saw the one big meal, it was assumed as if I had all my eating was big. You may eat small in the portion, but how many of those small portions are you having? Over the day it builds up. This is why I said you need to focus on the quantities. As is everyone else.

28064212 wrote: »

Did you weigh what you're eating? Or are you just estimating? Did you record Every. Single. Thing. you ate or drank? I find it extremely difficult to believe that you usually run a 1000 calorie deficit from your approximate daily "maintenance" needs, and still maintain your weight

It'll be a higher deficit for his weight as the amount he needs to maintain his weight (19St10lbs) would be greater than 2200/2400.

generic2012

discus wrote: »

Weightloss doesn't happen over 2 weeks, mate.

This is most ridiculous.

generic2012

Did you try cutting out dairy? Cutting out carbs? Cutting out fat? Drinking 8 glasses of water a day? Not eating at night? 8 small meals a day? Hypnosis? Yoga?

Whatever you do don't find your caloric requirements and eat less than that until your happy with your weight and have a good relationship with food.

Bruno26

adton84 wrote: »

For the most part, Yes. I can't eat green veg as they give me bad cramp.

Based on what you said it would be impossible to gain weight. You need to write up exactly what you eat and drink.

generic2012

Bruno26 wrote: »

Based on what you said it would be impossible to gain weight. You need to write up exactly what you eat and drink.

Unless it was 1500 calories of carbz of course.

ford2600

OP has difficult with weight and other health problems.

I'm sure I read in forum/site charter sometime or other "Don't be a dick".

OP not sure you can get much help given what you have said from a forum.

Can you afford a professional dietitian?

adton84

ford2600 wrote: »

OP has difficult with weight and other health problems.

I'm sure I read in forum/site charter sometime or other "Don't be a dick".

OP not sure you can get much help given what you have said from a forum.

Can you afford a professional dietitian?

I've been to a dietician who put me on a program which involved low GI foods and spent 12 weeks going to her and sticking to it rigidly only to be the exact same weight at the end of it. She put it down to a thyroid problem but i had that checked and it was normal.

Precious flower

Could post up what you have been eating and drinking every day for maybe the last few days and the roughly (or as exact as you can be) the amount? Absolutely everything, so posters here can see?
Or better yet, exactly what you were eating and drinking and the amount for that week that you gained weight? It could be a good diet but it's worth posting it up so others can have a look through it just in case there is anything that might not be great!:)
Also what your daily exercise routine is?

RidleyRider

adton84 wrote: »

I've been to a dietician who put me on a program which involved low GI foods and spent 12 weeks going to her and sticking to it rigidly only to be the exact same weight at the end of it. She put it down to a thyroid problem but i had that checked and it was normal.

Dietitian is a waste of money here. You're simply not tracking calories properly. Here's what you do:

1. Download/Sign up to myfitnesspal.

2. Find out what calories you need to cut weight.

3. Find out what macros you need.

4. Weigh ALL food to fit into said macros.

5. Put on myfitnesspal.

6. Exercise.

It's impossible for you not to lose weight following this.

meijin

RidleyRider wrote: »

It's impossible for you not to lose weight following this.

it is possible... for trolls :rolleyes:

seriously, why everybody falls for that?

RidleyRider

meijin wrote: »

it is possible... for trolls :rolleyes:

seriously, why everybody falls for that?

You can't assume that. People don't understand sometimes.

Yeah he could be a troll but he could be a confused soul:P

Rough Sleeper

Reekwind wrote: »

You're counting them wrong. It is not possible to gain half a stone in a week while consuming max 1,500 calories.

It is not possible to gain half a stone of fat in a week while consuming max 1,500 calories. It is certainly possible that you could get a reading that differs by 7 lbs within a 7-day timeframe. It's not unusual for me to weight close to a stone heavier at night than I did in the morning.

Odds are that the OP's comparing his dry weight to his dry weight + a few kg of water and glycogen.

OP, weight yourself in the morning post-piss. Do this every day and average out the weight over a week. Compare this week-to-week and, if you really are consuming 1,500 kcal give or take a hundred kcal or two, you'll see the numbers go down.

Rough Sleeper

generic2012 wrote: »

This is most ridiculous.

How so? Significant weight loss that results in noticeable changes to your appearance does not, in most cases, occur over the course of 2 weeks. The loss of a limb would be a noticeable exception.

generic2012

Rough Sleeper wrote: »

Significant weight loss that results in noticeable changes to your appearance does not, in most cases, occur over the course of 2 weeks.

Big difference in what you described there and 'weightloss' that I was talking about.

adton84

RidleyRider wrote: »

Dietitian is a waste of money here. You're simply not tracking calories properly. Here's what you do:

1. Download/Sign up to myfitnesspal.

2. Find out what calories you need to cut weight.

3. Find out what macros you need.

4. Weigh ALL food to fit into said macros.

5. Put on myfitnesspal.

6. Exercise.

It's impossible for you not to lose weight following this.

Thanks for this. Downloaded the app and starting to use it this morning, so I'll have a complete diary of my food and activity

Mellor

adton84 wrote: »

I gained the 7lb that I lost back the following week.

The most obvious explanation is that you didn't actually lose 7lbs and you had an incorrect reading in the middle. Ignoring that reading and you gain nothing.

accentstaffing

Mellor wrote: »

The most obvious explanation is that you didn't actually lose 7lbs and you had an incorrect reading in the middle. Ignoring that reading and your gained nothing.

Lol !

Rough Sleeper

generic2012 wrote: »

Big difference in what you described there and 'weightloss' that I was talking about.

Well I think it was pretty easy to infer from the post that they had noticeable weightloss in mind rather than a few hundred grams of lost fat.