Teen Porn Laws gone mad?

Maphisto

This case caught my eye. Some lad has been taking pics of his todger and sending them to his girlfriend. That in itself stikes me as no biggie.

He stands to be sent to jail and be on the offenders register for pics of himself. Is that mad?

Police of obtained a warrant to photograph said todger and to induce an erection by drugs. That strikes me as way over the line.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0719/631791-us-selfie-porn/

wazky

Should have stuck him in a room with a Ban Garda, no need for the drugs then.

Nodin

Maphisto wrote: »

This case caught my eye. Some lad has been taking pics of his todger and sending them to his girlfriend. That in itself stikes me as no biggie.

He stands to be sent to jail and be on the offenders register for pics of himself. Is that mad?

Police of obtained a warrant to photograph said todger and to induce an erection by drugs. That strikes me as way over the line.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0719/631791-us-selfie-porn/

Mental alright. Badly though out/written law by the looks of it.

TiGeR KiNgS

wazky wrote: »

Should have stuck him in a room with a Ban Garda, no need for the drugs then.

But some of them ban garda would turn even the strongest erection to mush.

Nodin

TiGeR KiNgS wrote: »

But some of them ban garda would turn even the strongest erection to mush.

For fucks sake, don't piss on the mans fantasy. Life is cruel enough as is.

My name is URL

Under Virginia law, anyone in possession of obscene photos of a juvenile is technically in possession of child pornography

Does that not mean that the court is basically sanctioning the creation of child porn by taking pictures of the guy's dick?

Cienciano

In fairness, he kept sending them to a 15 year old and was repeatedly told to stop. Sounds like he wouldn't stop, so they charged him with the only thing they could.

BattleCorp

His girlfriend is 15.

Fcuk him, she's underage.

Throw the book at him.

Nodin

Cienciano wrote: »

In fairness, he kept sending them to a 15 year old and was repeatedly told to stop. Sounds like he wouldn't stop, so they charged him with the only thing they could.

Doesn't seem like it.
http://www.virginiarules.com/virginia-rules/crimes-against-persons

Maphisto

Cienciano wrote: »

In fairness, he kept sending them to a 15 year old and was repeatedly told to stop. Sounds like he wouldn't stop, so they charged him with the only thing they could.

Fair point but isn't this just something that parents sort out between themselves (or am I completely out of touch)?

"You sit there, listen to what Mr GIRLS FATHER has to say."
"Now hand over your phone - you can have it back in 6 months."

Or have I just lost the plot?

srsly78

Haha, would the cops not have to arrest themselves if they went ahead with their little "identity parade"?

Lando Griffin

Ahhh.Gone are the days when you would draw a squirting penis on a piece of paper and leave it in a girls desk........then run.

Banjo String

He stands to be sent to jail and be on the offenders register for pics of himself. Is that mad?

Mad, dunno. Sounds very stiff though.

Amirani

BattleCorp wrote: »

His girlfriend is 15.

Fcuk him, she's underage.

Throw the book at him.

He's under the age of consent too. Would you be saying the same if she had sent the pictures to him? Somehow I don't think so. :rolleyes:

The crime isn't even for sending them to her, it's for creating images of himself and sending them to anyone.

Tin Foil Hat

Too young to take a picture of his own cock but plenty old enough to be hauled through the courts for it. Makes perfect sense.

Little CuChulainn

srsly78 wrote: »

Haha, would the cops not have to arrest themselves if they went ahead with their little "identity parade"?

You understand that when someone is charged with child porn some poor ****er has to go through all the images and catalog and label them? It's not a job I'd envy.

Maphisto

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

You understand that when someone is charged with child porn some poor ****er has to go through all the images and catalog and label them? It's not a job I'd envy.

Fair comment - but the case in point?

Hotfail.com

BattleCorp wrote: »

His girlfriend is 15.

Fcuk him, she's underage.

Throw the book at him.

Unless it ended up with her suffering some form of trauma I don't see the point. The difference between a 15 and 17 year old is minimal, and it does say that he was her girlfriend. I doubt it was the first time she'd seen his penis.

Although I do agree that he should have stopped when he was told to stop.

Amirani

Hotfail.com wrote: »

Unless it ended up with her suffering some form of trauma I don't see the point. The difference between a 15 and 17 year old is minimal, and it does say that he was her girlfriend. I doubt it was the first time she'd seen his penis.

Although I do agree that he should have stopped when he was told to stop.

Sex between 17 and 15 year olds is legal under Virginia law. He probably should have stopped...unless she didn't have a problem with it? In which case, what business do the authorities have getting involved?

wexie

Do they not have snapchat in the US?

Hotfail.com

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Sex between 17 and 15 year olds is legal under Virginia law.

Was just gonna ask that question!

Ridiculous. What a waste of police time.

Cienciano

Maphisto wrote: »

Fair point but isn't this just something that parents sort out between themselves (or am I completely out of touch)?

"You sit there, listen to what Mr GIRLS FATHER has to say."
"Now hand over your phone - you can have it back in 6 months."

Or have I just lost the plot?

I agree, but some parents don't give a shíte

Maphisto

Cienciano wrote: »

I agree, but some parents don't give a shíte

And isn't that the real shame on our society?

I look back at my own parents and my wife's and there is absolutely nothing that either would have done for us - they wouldn't take shoite though and they'd certainly let us know where we were falling short of their expectations

wexie

Maphisto wrote: »

And isn't that the real shame on our society?

I look back at my own parents and my wife's and there is absolutely nothing that either would have done for us - they wouldn't take shoite though and they'd certainly let us know where we were falling short of their expectations

oooh.....you've had the :'I'm not angry, but I'm very disappointed' chat then have you?

I'll take the anger thank you very much

Hotfail.com

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Cienciano

Hotfail.com wrote: »

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I'd say you used that line loads of times out behind the local nightclub bins

Hotfail.com

Cienciano wrote: »

I'd say you used that line loads of times out behind the local nightclub bins

Loads, usually just before they pass out due to asphyxiation. :P

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

OK, so if I'm understanding that right, the issue isn't even so much that he was sending the pictures to a 15-year-old, but that he was possessing and distributing child pornography of himself??

I suppose we better start arresting every teenager for child abuse so, they're all interfering with themselves. Sending dick pics is a pretty stupid thing to do, but the fact that it's even a possibility that the poor lad could end up on the sex-offenders register for life over it is insane. That could literally ruin his life, all over a stupid decision that didn't hurt anyone. Teenagers having sex or engaging in sexual behaviour with teenagers is not the same thing as adults having sex with teenagers.

wexie

Avi Beautiful Musket wrote: »

Teenagers having sex or engaging in sexual behaviour with teenagers is not the same thing as adults having sex with teenagers.

Some might even say that teenagers having sex with teenagers is actually quite normal and healthy behaviour*



*terms and conditions apply YMMV

Hotfail.com

Avi Beautiful Musket wrote: »

OK, so if I'm understanding that right, the issue isn't even so much that he was sending the pictures to a 15-year-old, but that he was possessing and distributing child pornography of himself??

I suppose we better start arresting every teenager for child abuse so, they're all interfering with themselves. Sending dick pics is a pretty stupid thing to do, but the fact that it's even a possibility that the poor lad could end up on the sex-offenders register for life over it is insane. That could literally ruin his life, all over a stupid decision that didn't hurt anyone. Teenagers having sex or engaging in sexual behaviour with teenagers is not the same thing as adults having sex with teenagers.

We should arrest all parents as well that have pictures of their newborn children :rolleyes:

GalwayGuy2

Shouldn't she also go to jail for viewing child pornography?

Regardless, this is insane.

Maphisto

Avi Beautiful Musket wrote: »

OK, so if I'm understanding that right, the issue isn't even so much that he was sending the pictures to a 15-year-old, but that he was possessing and distributing child pornography of himself??

I suppose we better start arresting every teenager for child abuse so, they're all interfering with themselves. Sending dick pics is a pretty stupid thing to do, but the fact that it's even a possibility that the poor lad could end up on the sex-offenders register for life over it is insane. That could literally ruin his life, all over a stupid decision that didn't hurt anyone. Teenagers having sex or engaging in sexual behaviour with teenagers is not the same thing as adults having sex with teenagers.

Thinking back to that time (quite a stretch) getting laid was the absolute most important thing in the world.

Also from the same article

In an editorial this week, the Washington Post newspaper, citing an academic study, said the youth's behaviour "puts him in the company of nearly 30% of his peers."

We're clearly not going to lock 30% of the male teens up. Maybe we are? There was a thread a couple of weeks ago where the guy went for a point while he was waiting for his case. He only got threatened with contempt not jailed for it. We clearly don't have the prison space.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

Hotfail.com wrote: »

We should arrest all parents as well that have pictures of their newborn children :rolleyes:

The amount of pictures of me and my siblings in various states of undress that are lying around in photo albums in my parents' house should maybe be a cause for concern for them too! Here was me thinking the most sinister thing about them was the way they get brought out to embarrass us when we bring boyfriends and girlfriends home

Awkward Badger

The youth, due to appear 1 August in youth court, had "repeatedly" been told to stop sending "pornographic videos" to the 15-year-old girl, said Manassas City Police in a statement.

The "sexting" case took a surreal twist when police obtained a warrant to photograph the boy's penis to prove that it was the same one that appeared in the text videos.

On Thursday, as publicity about the case grew in the Washington area, they said they would not serve the warrant, which would have involved a drug-induced erection at a local hospital.

Under Virginia law, anyone in possession of obscene photos of a juvenile is technically in possession of child pornography, even if it is a picture of themselves, Foster said.

Sending dick picks to a 15 year old, warrant to medically induce an erection to make sure it was him, accused of manufacturing and distributing child porn.

This reads like the plot of some weird Japanese movie.

colm_mcm

That'll never stand up in court

hatrickpatrick

The entire age of consent system needs to be utterly overhauled to (a) treat boys and girls identically, and (b) accept the reality that teens will engage in consensual sexual activity with their peers and no amount of criminalisation will stop them.

_Redzer_

If anything should be made illegal, it's using the word todger!

pablomakaveli

The worst thing about this is reverse the genders so it's a 17 year old girl sending a 15 year old boy naked pics and this wouldn't be an issue or they'd probably charge him for viewing child pornography.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

pablomakaveli wrote: »

The worst thing about this is reverse the genders so it's a 17 year old girl sending a 15 year old boy naked pics and this wouldn't be an issue or they'd probably charge him for viewing child pornography.

It's OK, the hourly quota for making a variation on that point on boards.ie has been met. Thanks though.

newbie2013

He's old enough to join the army yet not do this, crazy lol

Maphisto

Awkward Badger wrote: »

Sending dick picks to a 15 year old, warrant to medically induce an erection to make sure it was him, accused of manufacturing and distributing child porn.

This reads like the plot of some weird Japanese movie.

I'll wait for the dvd;)

Sprog 4

Maphisto wrote: »

This case caught my eye. Some lad has been taking pics of his todger and sending them to his girlfriend. That in itself stikes me as no biggie.

He may be an idiot, but no need to insult his manhood

Ineedaname

The article fails to mention that she had been sending pictures too and it was in fact her that initiated.

Yet she hasn't been charged at all.

CrazyRabbit

Nodin wrote: »

Mental alright. Badly though out/written law by the looks of it.

Along with just about every other law they have. Very shortsighted when it comes to their 'justice' system.

Also...I wonder what would happen if a 13 year old sent similar pictures of themselves to an adult? Would the adult be charged with possession of Child Pornography? That's a scary thought.

Osmosis Jones

colm_mcm wrote: »

That'll never stand up in court

Not without that warrant anyway.

Sulla Felix

Maphisto wrote: »

Fair point but isn't this just something that parents sort out between themselves (or am I completely out of touch)?

"You sit there, listen to what Mr GIRLS FATHER has to say."
"Now hand over your phone - you can have it back in 6 months."

Or have I just lost the plot?

You actually expect parents to parent their children? Don't be silly, it's a brave new world, that's the states job now.

mickydoomsux

Ineedaname wrote: »

The article fails to mention that she had been sending pictures too and it was in fact her that initiated.

Yet she hasn't been charged at all.

We still treat women like helpless innocent maidens in this country.

We are the neck-beards of Europe.

conorhal

Jail time seems an harsh. I'd just sentence him to five minutes alone in a room with the girls father, that should sort the problem.

the_monkey

USA is a scary place, I have photos of my 2 year old playing naked on the beach - am I in possesion of obscene material ????


and the whole thing of giving him drugs to induce a boner and photograph it ???

farcical, creating the same "obscene" images they are trying to prosecute him over.

wexie

the_monkey wrote: »

USA is a scary place, I have photos of my 2 year old playing naked on the beach - am I in possesion of obscene material ????


and the whole thing of giving him drugs to induce a boner and photograph it ???

farcical, creating the same "obscene" images they are trying to prosecute him over.

There's actually a precedent for this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75yAH9hWrZ0

(I'm not the only one here old enough to remember Porky's am I? Am I? )

RandomName2

the_monkey wrote: »

USA is a scary place, I have photos of my 2 year old playing naked on the beach - am I in possesion of obscene material ????


and the whole thing of giving him drugs to induce a boner and photograph it ???

farcical, creating the same "obscene" images they are trying to prosecute him over.

Afaik that is illegal. In practice it probably comes down to personal interpretation. I think a case like that went to court (possibly US) but was thrown out by the judge as the accused "didn't have a case to answer".

In the last year we've had one high profile case of an American teen committing suicide because he was filmed masturbating, and it was apparently circulated around the school until he was isolated and a laughing stock, and another suicide by an American teenager whose headmaster was trying to have him placed on the sex offender register for streaking at a football game.

The US seems to have really serious issues.

It's the same sort of thing when you typcially can see a seven year old expelled for biting his pop-tart into the shape of a gun (you know, because school-shootings).

Are they positively retarded there or something? :mad:

Jesus Christ- they have nukes! :eek: