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FSA FPL Rate My Team Thread 2014-15

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,277 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    bodking wrote: »
    Latest Draft

    GK: Foster, Krul
    DF: Ferdinand ( dependant on Chaulker Price ) ,Chambers, Vlaar, Rosenoir,Pocognoli
    MF: Hazard, Mata, Erikson, Henderson, De Jong
    FW: Dzeko, Giroud, Sturridge

    3-4-3

    Thoughts ??

    Like the midfield and forwards but if you're playing 3-4-3 then you'll have Henderson sitting on the bench every week which is a waste of 6m. I'd downgrade him to a 4.5m player and use the money on your defence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭bodking


    Like the midfield and forwards but if you're playing 3-4-3 then you'll have Henderson sitting on the bench every week which is a waste of 6m. I'd downgrade him to a 4.5m player and use the money on your defence.

    Do you have a suggestion for a 4.5 Mid ?

    Was considering Marc Albrighton of Leicester .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Rory C Debuchy to Collocini and duff and bruce to o shea taylor(swa). Would give you terry a home def from either new/sun and taylor who after GW1 has good Fixtures. Arsenal have everton, city,spurs and chelsea in the first 8 and a CL qualifier to worry about in between some of their earlier easier fixtures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭skippy15


    Paully D wrote: »
    It's a solid team but use up your money. It's no good to you in the bank. :)

    Vlaar, while having a good World Cup, is in the equivalent of a sieve at Aston Villa. They will rarely keep clean sheets. I think you could use the extra cash to upgrade him to a starter from a team more likely to draw blanks from the opposition.

    I wouldn't be too keen on Barkley at £7.0m especially with Everton's first few weeks. You could downgrade him to a £6.0m such as Snodgrass or Sigurdsson and get a similar impact IMO. If you're set on 4-4-2, that would give you an extra £2.0m overall to upgrade Vlaar and/or your bench, which will get you into trouble sooner or later.

    Ye im not keen on vlaar. Is a filler for now and reckon may move vlar and ward for shaw and wisdom maybe.
    I think barkley will have a big season and so much play will go through him just think he needs a good quality striker. Dont fancy the other 6mil options yet.

    Benchwise not too worried as i usually play wc early to build up funds. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,277 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    bodking wrote: »
    Do you have a suggestion for a 4.5 Mid ?

    Was considering Marc Albrighton of Leicester .

    Ya I have him myself. You could upgrade to a Chelsea/Arsenal defender then.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭bodking


    Ya I have him myself. You could upgrade to a Chelsea/Arsenal defender then.

    Thanks looking better , ill wait to see how much Caulker is first .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Everton have Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and United in the first seven weeks. I'll be avoiding their players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭Rosco79


    First draft, opinions welcome.......

    DeGea
    Cameron Filipe Luis Debuchy
    Eriksen Sanchez Fabregas Shelvey
    RVP Dzeko Wickham

    Krul, Rosenier, Ward Prowse, Vlaar

    Thoughts:
    1. With new bonus points system I'm going to take a change on cheaper full backs rather than more expensive centre backs
    2. Shelvey - not convinced and may become Arnie or Odem if Ward Prowse/Wickham change to release 1m
    3. Ward Prowse - depends on nailing down a place pre season, will look elsewhere if doesnt
    4. Wickham - to be watched pre season also, Naismith also of interest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    I wouldn't discount Shelvey straight away. He scored 0.04 points per minute last year which equates to an average of about 4.4 points per 90 minute game. And he should pay every game barring injury. I've seen Puncheon in a few teams - he's £0.5m more expensive and based on last seasons figures is only slightly better than Shelvey, returning an average of about 4.6 points per game. With regards to Delph, he's £0.5m cheaper but has a shocking expected return of just 2.9 points per game. Bacuna is a better option from Villa (3.6 PPG).

    I'm not set on Shelvey but if I have £5.5m to work with for a 4th choice midfielder, I can't see many other options. I hadn't looked at Arfield, thanks for mentioning him. Seems to score goals (although not assists) - could be a gem at £5m. Already scored in pre-season (albeit in an 8-0 win).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,505 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    roryc wrote: »
    I wouldn't discount Shelvey straight away. He scored 0.04 points per minute last year which equates to an average of about 4.4 points per 90 minute game. And he should pay every game barring injury. I've seen Puncheon in a few teams - he's £0.5m more expensive and based on last seasons figures is only slightly better than Shelvey, returning an average of about 4.6 points per game. With regards to Delph, he's £0.5m cheaper but has a shocking expected return of just 2.9 points per game. Bacuna is a better option from Villa (3.6 PPG).

    I'm not set on Shelvey but if I have £5.5m to work with for a 4th choice midfielder, I can't see many other options. I hadn't looked at Arfield, thanks for mentioning him. Seems to score goals (although not assists) - could be a gem at £5m. Already scored in pre-season (albeit in an 8-0 win).
    I'm inclined to leave points averages to the side and go with a player at that value who I think has a higher ceiling in Thomas Ince as much as I think he is unquestionably a risk.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    Yeah I had Ince for a while last season, definitely a risk. Depends on how you plan to utilise your 4th defender. I base a lot of decisions on stats, seems to work for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,505 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    roryc wrote: »
    Yeah I had Ince for a while last season, definitely a risk. Depends on how you plan to utilise your 4th defender. I base a lot of decisions on stats, seems to work for me.

    I wouldn't mind upgrading Ince to be honest. But he is the 5.5 million option for 4th midfielder if that's the amount of money I have to work with after getting the rest of the team how I want it. The 7-8.5 million price range of both midfielders and strikers doesn't convince me at all as being any more appealing than the price tier below them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭bicboy6666


    CSF wrote: »
    I wouldn't mind upgrading Ince to be honest. But he is the 5.5 million option for 4th midfielder if that's the amount of money I have to work with after getting the rest of the team how I want it. The 7-8.5 million price range of both midfielders and strikers doesn't convince me at all as being any more appealing than the price tier below them.

    for someone who was linked with inter and other top premier league teams and to end up at hull doesn't fill me with confidence about him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,747 ✭✭✭Ziegler1988


    roryc wrote: »
    I wouldn't discount Shelvey straight away. He scored 0.04 points per minute last year which equates to an average of about 4.4 points per 90 minute game. And he should pay every game barring injury. I've seen Puncheon in a few teams - he's £0.5m more expensive and based on last seasons figures is only slightly better than Shelvey, returning an average of about 4.6 points per game. With regards to Delph, he's £0.5m cheaper but has a shocking expected return of just 2.9 points per game. Bacuna is a better option from Villa (3.6 PPG).

    I'm not set on Shelvey but if I have £5.5m to work with for a 4th choice midfielder, I can't see many other options. I hadn't looked at Arfield, thanks for mentioning him. Seems to score goals (although not assists) - could be a gem at £5m. Already scored in pre-season (albeit in an 8-0 win).
    If you weren't already on Tadic and Pelle, James Ward-Prowse is only 5.0m. He could play in the Lallana role and got an assist their last pre-season match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,256 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    roryc wrote: »
    Shelvey would be my only worry, but he has shown potential. The other two have already proven that they are capable of performing over the course of a season, albeit not in the Premier League. I would put these in the category of 'calculated risks' which is what I would have classed Michu when I had him from Day 1 in the 2012/2013 season. Pelle has already notched a brace in the pre-season match, and has been linking up well with Tadic (who should be taking all of their set pieces). Still a long time to go but it wouldn't surprise me to have Pelle and Tadic in my team for GW1. Both decent value.

    There are no players guaranteed to hit the ground running, not even Hazard or Sanchez. This is why so many people use their wildcard after GW1, its so difficult to get a strong starting team and getting a good start can be crucial to a high finish. Picking the top players from last season is rarely a good strategy, risks need to be taken! I can see Saints beating Liverpool in the first GW, and I think Pelle and Tadic will be central to everything they do.

    http://comparetheleagues.com/

    Going by the UEFA League rankings though, Michu was moving from the number two league in Europe to the number 1 league. The PL rating being 84.41 and the Primera Division ranking being 84.186, a difference of only 0.224.

    The Eredivise is the 8th ranked league in Europe at a ranking of 45.515, 38.895 below the Premier League.

    That's a big step up in class for those two lads. When I think of the Dutch League, I always think of Alfonso Alves. 45 goals in 39 games for Hereenveen! I'm sure there are players who have come from that league who have been successes like van Nistelrooy but many like Bony may take time to settle or will be complete failures.

    I agree that no players are guaranteed to hit the ground running but I do think there is such a thing as taking too many risks and I always limit myself to a max of one player new to the league.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,505 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    bicboy6666 wrote: »
    for someone who was linked with inter and other top premier league teams and to end up at hull doesn't fill me with confidence about him
    He is a 5.5 midfielder who will play as a certain starter (at the beginning at least) in a very attacking position. Those don't really exist elsewhere.

    Whether he is good enough for the Inter Milan hype isn't entirely relevant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭bicboy6666


    CSF wrote: »
    He is a 5.5 midfielder who will play as a certain starter (at the beginning at least) in a very attacking position. Those don't really exist elsewhere.

    Whether he is good enough for the Inter Milan hype isn't entirely relevant.

    struggled to start for palace last season though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,256 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    CSF wrote: »
    He is a 5.5 midfielder who will play as a certain starter (at the beginning at least) in a very attacking position. Those don't really exist elsewhere.

    Whether he is good enough for the Inter Milan hype isn't entirely relevant.

    I'd have worries about Ince starting to be honest. Hull have alot of midfielders now. I'd go for Snodgrass above him.

    Ince is costing Hull little or nothing as they just have to pay compensation for him. Therefore Bruce isn't taking much of a risk by taking him on even if he doesn't particularly want him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,505 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Lemlin wrote: »
    I'd have worries about Ince starting to be honest. Hull have alot of midfielders now. I'd go for Snodgrass above him.

    Ince is costing Hull little or nothing as they just have to pay compensation for him. Therefore Bruce isn't taking much of a risk by taking him on even if he doesn't particularly want him.
    I'm inclined to think he will start fairly handy. I think that was why he chose Hull if I'm honest. I would see both him and Snodgrass starting, not an either or situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    roryc wrote: »
    Here's an interesting line up, with a lot of focus on attack. I'd love to have this team but it's over reliant on the big names performing. Three £4m defenders is probably a bit over stretched. Would likely have to play Shelvey every week too.

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    Like an attacking team myself. Not far away from the ethos I was going for with the tinkered with team above except I had 2 x 4.5 defs and and 1x4.0 leaving me only 4.5 each for two mids. I had Pelle, RVP and Bony instead of your Dzeko.

    If by GW1 we have established 3 realistic 4m defenders who rotate I might go that way yet, and try to get a better 4th mid.

    The only other thing to bear in mind with all out attack line ups is that sometimes the attacking players take time to get into top gear at the start of a new season, and it can be defences on top for the first month or so, certainly that seemed to happen last year, so the cheap defence could cost you if the attackers are not firing and there are lots of low scoring games.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,267 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    CSF wrote: »
    I'm inclined to think he will start fairly handy. I think that was why he chose Hull if I'm honest. I would see both him and Snodgrass starting, not an either or situation.

    Robbie Brady(remember him?) is back fit and surely will be pushing for a start. V talented player. Snodgrass. Ince. Elmohamady(played almost every minute last season). They have George Boyd too. I'd stay away from Hull mids to start off with, tho there definitely is an array of attacking talent there and good fpl potential. Europa League participation could impact too. Will keep an eye on their situation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,277 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    manual_man wrote: »
    Robbie Brady(remember him?) is back fit and surely will be pushing for a start. V talented player. Snodgrass. Ince. Elmohamady(played almost every minute last season). They have George Boyd too. I'd stay away from Hull mids to start off with, tho there definitely is an array of attacking talent there and good fpl potential. Europa League participation could impact too. Will keep an eye on their situation

    Add Huddlestone and Livermore to that list...it's a minefield. Will be staying away from it myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭Rosco79


    Add Huddlestone and Livermore to that list...it's a minefield. Will be staying away from it myself.

    Agreed, I could see Brady getting back in there but his appeal reduces with penos gone to Jelavic...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    FHFC wrote: »
    Like an attacking team myself. Not far away from the ethos I was going for with the tinkered with team above except I had 2 x 4.5 defs and and 1x4.0 leaving me only 4.5 each for two mids. I had Pelle, RVP and Bony instead of your Dzeko.

    I think Dzeko is a must of Aguero is not 100%. He's first choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,350 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    I think Giroud and Dzeko could get rotated which is my worry. So i think it's important if playing 3-4-3 to have a solid 5th midfielder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,505 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Add Huddlestone and Livermore to that list...it's a minefield. Will be staying away from it myself.

    Confident enough that Thomas Ince has been brought in with promises of the world myself.

    To my mind he has taken the easy way out and gone for a team where he feels guaranteed a spot rather than risking failure elsewhere. The bulk of these players play more central than Ince anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    roryc wrote: »
    I think Dzeko is a must of Aguero is not 100%. He's first choice.

    I'd just be concerned that there are not a lot of goals in City's first 5 or 6 fixtures. Pelle was gonna be a fixtures punt with a plan to swap for Dzeko if not working out...

    City: new, LIV, STO, ars, CHE, hul

    Soton: liv, WBA, whm, NEW, swa, QPR


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭markcahill1985


    Can ye rate my team please? pretty happy with it thus far

    Krul Schmeichel

    Debuchy Lovren Shaw Vlaar Cameron

    Sanchez Cesc Sigurdsson Barkley Ince

    RVP Dzeko Austin(Ings)

    Dependent obv on Lovren and Sigurdsson completing their transfers - have austin over Ings for fiorst gameweek as they have a home game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,505 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Can ye rate my team please? pretty happy with it thus far

    Krul Schmeichel

    Debuchy Lovren Shaw Vlaar Cameron

    Sanchez Cesc Sigurdsson Barkley Ince

    RVP Dzeko Austin(Ings)

    Dependent obv on Lovren and Sigurdsson completing their transfers - have austin over Ings for fiorst gameweek as they have a home game
    Given that many people wildcard early in chase of value, does it not concern you that both Debuchy and Lovren are likely to be burdened with very difficult early season games. Both players represent great options IMO over the course of the season, but if I'm likely to wildcard before the end of September (and I am) they don't represent value until later in the season.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    CSF wrote: »
    Given that many people wildcard early in chase of value, does it not concern you that both Debuchy and Lovren are likely to be burdened with very difficult early season games. Both players represent great options IMO over the course of the season, but if I'm likely to wildcard before the end of September (and I am) they don't represent value until later in the season.

    My thoughts exactly with debuchy .


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