Monday Night Raw Thread 14/7/14

rovert

So anyway he Rollins grabs the opposite leg you would expect him to if it was a legit injury.

Insect Overlord

He injured the leg before he went over the ropes. Go back a few seconds before the clothesline.

Moneymaker

We'll know soon enough anyway.

rovert

As reported in the PWInsider.com Elite section:
*Bray Wyatt needed seven stitches to close the gash suffered when Ric Flair punched him in NYC. Wyatt's eye was blackened and swollen shut and WWE medical did a lot of work on it before Raw, draining it and using makeup so he could look presentable. Wyatt was said to be in good spirits about the entire thing as it was a scar Flair gave him in MSG. His attitude in general is really liked by the veterans of the locker room.

*Seth Rollins was 100% fine after Raw and the injury was completely scripted to remove him from the finish of the handicap match so the focus was on the competitors in the Battleground Fatal Four Way.


*Dean Ambrose had a bloody lip but beyond that he was fine following his beating on Raw. His hospital visit was just part of the show.

I (and my main man Meltzer) was right:

B.A._Baracus

rovert wrote: »

So anyway he Rollins grabs the opposite leg you would expect him to if it was a legit injury.

huh? thats kinda of worded weirdly :P
I assume you mean if it was a legit injury then he would be grabbing his other leg?

Wrestlers work the left arm and left leg. Rollins grabbed his right. This aint Mexico dude

Lord TSC

Another note...Reigns has now ended 3 weeks in a row looking dominant and the likely winner....




....so can we all agree he doesn't stand a chance?

CastorTroy

So why was Miz always going on about Moneymaker? and then having a picture of Moneymaker all throughout his match? I've never met or seen Moneymaker but he did look familiar. This week's podcast will be torture with Moneymaker now having a big head after all the mentions he got on Raw.

Watching the Adam Rose bit just made me think of his NXT presentation skills video where I think he said something along the lines of how he's fed up of trying to entertain people and being a puppet.

I think that Sting promo was a good way to gauge a response anyway, since we've seen returns before where a good reaction was expected but didn't come to be.

Looking forward to seeing how AJ and Paige work in a proper match. Could become another Trish and Lita?

Ambrose not selling as much as he usually does this week

Ridley

I enjoyed that. Showcase of talent proving that they want to be IC champ.

Although I'm hoping that at Battleground Barrett will announce to the winner that the baaaad news is his being healthier than expected, elbow the guy and walk away still the champ. Then have a unification match with Sheamus at Summerslam.

Failing that, Cesaro wins and has a unification match with Sheamus at Summerslam.

Failing that, Bo Dallas wins and is more inspirational than ever.

JohnMarston

Sad that the best part of this weeks Raw was Sting, and he didnt even show up

rovert

And Seth was the one who got all the talk:

beakerjoe

The more I see of Ambrose, the more I like him. Slowly becoming the WWEs MVP IMO

Scavenger XIII

beakerjoe wrote: »

The more I see of Ambrose, the more I like him. Slowly becoming the WWEs MVP IMO

Yesssssss, Ambrose Army.

Cianan2

I've become a huge Ambrose fan since the Shield split, really looking forward to seeing what they come up withfor the "lunatic fringe"... Has potential to be one of the greatest heel's of all time in my opinion!

Also, have never had as much interest in a diva's feud before (when i was watching the attitude era it didn't really matter who disliked who when they were on my screen) I like the "frienemies" thing!

Moneymaker

Cianan2 wrote: »

I've become a huge Ambrose fan since the Shield split, really looking forward to seeing what they come up withfor the "lunatic fringe"... Has potential to be one of the greatest heel's of all time in my opinion!

Also, have never had as much interest in a diva's feud before (when i was watching the attitude era it didn't really matter who disliked who when they were on my screen) I like the "frienemies" thing!

I wouldn't turn Ambrose heel for a long time right now.

Scavenger XIII

Moneymaker wrote: »

I wouldn't turn Ambrose heel for a long time right now.

Yeah, because as good a natural heel as he is, he's got so much momentum as a face right now.

They already cut the Shields group face run very short.

Cianan2

Oh no, I didn't mean now but I think in the long term he has the ability to be a fantastic heel!

Palo Alto

He will have Punk's problem of the crowd cheering him anyways. He'll have to do something quite dastardly!

CastorTroy

Attack Torito? Nope that didn't work. Attack Bo? Attacking such an inspirational man would be sure to get him heat.

CSF

A feud with Daniel Bryan would probably do the trick.

grames_bond

He could reach stone cold levels of popularity.....so a heel turn would be out of the question then! (Didn't work for austin)

Eire-Dearg

I'd keep him as the anti-authorian, does what he wants when he wants unhinged character. Doesn't necessarily have to be heel.

If ever there was a time to turn him it'd be when Roman Reigns has the world title belt. Imagine that, the night after Wrestlemania. Ambrose toe to toe with Reigns.

CSF

He needs to start being put forward as a winner though. He's going to lose on Sunday I imagine, what's the plan for Summerslam then? Rematch? Does he lose that too?

IMO he has much more potential to build up the momentum of a main eventer than Rollins, whereas I see him ending up more Mick Foley than Stone Cold Steve Austin

Moneymaker

CSF wrote: »

He needs to start being put forward as a winner though. He's going to lose on Sunday I imagine, what's the plan for Summerslam then? Rematch? Does he lose that too?

IMO he has much more potential to build up the momentum of a main eventer than Rollins, whereas I see him ending up more Mick Foley than Stone Cold Steve Austin

No contest and he wins at Summerslam.

That's the right way to proceed imo.

Lord TSC

The problem is as well though that if Ambrose wins, Rollins loses....and Rollins is meant to be the next in line for your top title!!!

Both need wins, but I'd personally rather Rollins wins the match to set him up title wise. As such, Ambrose should be looking stronger now...

beakerjoe

Lord TSC wrote: »

The problem is as well though that if Ambrose wins, Rollins loses....and Rollins is meant to be the next in line for your top title!!!

Both need wins, but I'd personally rather Rollins wins the match to set him up title wise. As such, Ambrose should be looking stronger now...

Spot on, both need the win and its a slight catch 22. Best option is for both to knock lumps out of each other and Rollins wins on Sunday by cheating or interference.

Angron

Lord TSC wrote: »

The problem is as well though that if Ambrose wins, Rollins loses....and Rollins is meant to be the next in line for your top title!!!

Since when has that stopped WWE giving the MITB winner a long losing streak?

CSF

Lord TSC wrote: »

The problem is as well though that if Ambrose wins, Rollins loses....and Rollins is meant to be the next in line for your top title!!!

Both need wins, but I'd personally rather Rollins wins the match to set him up title wise. As such, Ambrose should be looking stronger now...

In theory that's fine, but Ambrose seems to be the one with more potential for greatness and needs to have that potential realised.

2 matches against Rollins without a win doesn't help, them trading wins is fine for Ambrose, but I don't think Rollins winning the first but not clean (which is what would happen) and Ambrose winning at Summerslam, don't think that helps Rollins any more than losing now.

They should have given Ambrose the briefcase IMO anyway.

Moneymaker

CSF wrote: »

In theory that's fine, but Ambrose seems to be the one with more potential for greatness and needs to have that potential realised.

2 matches against Rollins without a win doesn't help, them trading wins is fine for Ambrose, but I don't think Rollins winning the first but not clean (which is what would happen) and Ambrose winning at Summerslam, don't think that helps Rollins any more than losing now.

They should have given Ambrose the briefcase IMO anyway.

Fair chance they still could imo.

Blow off match could be a street fight or ladder match with the case on the line.

mrkiscool2

In my opinion it's just a case of how will they be feuding for? I think Ambrose should win the last match and that's it. I don't think Ambrose needs wins as much as Rollins does, and you can make them really screwy to a. Keep the heat on Rollins b. Have the fans get even more behind Ambrose and c. Make Rollins look good and have some momentum. Rollins has to get his come-uppance but no need to do that until the final match of the feud.

CSF

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

In my opinion it's just a case of how will they be feuding for? I think Ambrose should win the last match and that's it. I don't think Ambrose needs wins as much as Rollins does, and you can make them really screwy to a. Keep the heat on Rollins b. Have the fans get even more behind Ambrose and c. Make Rollins look good and have some momentum. Rollins has to get his come-uppance but no need to do that until the final match of the feud.

The thing though that if you wanna make someone into a really top guy, that until they get there, they're always in need of the win. Watch how quickly Roman Reigns' win stats start to mimic Cena's.