Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

intellectual dosser

I just saw the picture of the two year old boy, killed by a horrific head wound.

Neither side is right, but shame on the world for standing idly by. I may be just some guy behind a keyboard but history will judge us for this.

This must stop.

Akrasia

The palestinians are firing unguided rockets into Israel. They're ineffective and illegal and Hamas should stop all of these rocket attacks immediately. It would be far more effective for them to hold the moral high ground and stop all attacks against Israel in the hope that international pressure would cause Israel to back off.

Unfortunately, while the Israel air strikes might end, Israeli settlers would take this as an opportunity to move more and more ideologues closer to the border (and beyond) and occupy more and more of the Palestinian land.

The Palestinian people are in a hopeless situation, they are being squeezed out of their land and fenced into the worlds largest open air prison. They have absolutely no hope of winning a military conflict, but they're humans who have the urge to fight to defend themselves, so they lash out.

Israel make the same claims every single time they attack Palestine with excessive military force. They fire rockets onto busy marketplaces killing 'militants' and everyone unlucky enough to be standing near them and then they claim that the 'militants' were 'hiding amongst civilians'

Bullsh1t. Israel are defining 'existing' as 'hiding'. What does Israel expect Hamas to do? Israel classifies every male adult in Palestine to be a combatant. Israel define all of Hamas to be legitimate targets, all government employees, anyone who provides services to the government or to Hamas...

They're not even trying to make a legitimate argument anymore. It's all just denialist statements 'It was their fault that we killed an entire family when we shot missiles at that house last night, the fighters are using their own families as human shields'

It's utter bullsh1t

wes

old_aussie wrote: »

Are these the same civillians that elected hamas to power with a majority of seats in parliment in 2006?

Same logic could apply to Israelis, or Americans who elected Bush, or British people who elected Blair. In fact Al Qaeda and various terrorist groups (including Hamas) use that exact justification for targeting civilians.

So, quite frankly you are in no position to condemn the likes of Hamas, as you believe in there exact same reasoning, and are engaging in massive hypocrisy, seeing as you share there view on who is a legitimate target.

old_aussie wrote: »

The same civillians that elected hamas knowing the agenda of hamas was to wipe out Israel?

There election manifesto made no mention of such an agenda.

old_aussie wrote: »

Cause I really don't give a feck about them!

So you don't care about the murder of Palestinian civilians then. Good to see that finally come out, so that we know where you stand and can respond accordingly.

old_aussie wrote: »

Or, or is there another group of civillians in there that I'm not aware of?

Sounds like something an Al Qaeda spokesman would come out to justify there murderous outrages.....

old_aussie wrote: »

Israel at least lets them know that bombs are on the way to the given address.

Yes, a great method of terror, to blow up peoples homes regardless whether there attacking Israel or not.

Ash.J.Williams

the "wipe Israel off the map" line was a mis-translated and out of context quote from the former Iranain president, wasn't it????

old hippy

old_aussie wrote: »

Are these the same civillians that elected hamas to power with a majority of seats in parliment in 2006?

The same civillians that elected hamas knowing the agenda of hamas was to wipe out Israel?

Cause I really don't give a feck about them!

Brilliant when the mask slips.

davmol

old_aussie wrote: »

Are these the same civillians that elected hamas to power with a majority of seats in parliment in 2006?

The same civillians that elected hamas knowing the agenda of hamas was to wipe out Israel?

Cause I really don't give a feck about them!

Or, or is there another group of civillians in there that I'm not aware of?

Israel at least lets them know that bombs are on the way to the given address.

Luv ya Garth, hope to see you in Oz again

In case you didnt know,alotof palestinians DIDNT elect hamas ,they elected Fata ,the other party.Did u also see the voter turn out for these elections?obviously not it was VERY low.In that case you can presume that a small minority are in favour of Hamas.Hamas also build schoold,universities and hospitals.Im not in favour of them but if i was livingin palestine and i saw hamas standing up to israelie agression(do research,there is thousands of accounts from Israelie soldiers(admissions) of how they beat and treated palestinians terribly.

Also,if my land was taken i would want to fight back and considering israel break international law time and time again and land grab palestinians land with illegal settlemtns,ican fully understand people wanting to join hamas.

since you are so flippant,lets hope New zealeand dont try to invade your land and beat the **** outof you aussies(as they regulary do in rugby),lets hope u dont read a foreigner giving such a 'dont care' attitude to your plight.

davmol

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

the "wipe Israel off the map" line was a mis-translated and out of context quote from the former Iranain president, wasn't it????

the Iranian presidnet who stood up to Israel and wanted its sovereign right to use Nuclear energy??While Israel tells everyone in the region thatit cant have nukes it has its own stockpile ready for use.
Yes,the same israel that flies into lebanese airspace whenit wants,bomds and attacks palestine when it wants,attacks peaceful floatillas and murder innocent civilians bringing aid to the palestinains who are starving and shut off from the world.The same Israel that flies into Syrian,Iraqi and any countries airspace when they want and who moan tothe world if a drone enters their airspace.

i could go on and on.

Herb Powell

old_aussie wrote: »

Are these the same civillians that elected hamas to power with a majority of seats in parliment in 2006?

The same civillians that elected hamas knowing the agenda of hamas was to wipe out Israel?

Cause I really don't give a feck about them!

Or, or is there another group of civillians in there that I'm not aware of?

Israel at least lets them know that bombs are on the way to the given address.

Luv ya Garth, hope to see you in Oz again

That's a pretty disgusting post, tbf

Ash.J.Williams

davmol wrote: »

the Iranian presidnet who stood up to Israel and wanted its sovereign right to use Nuclear energy??While Israel tells everyone in the region thatit cant have nukes it has its own stockpile ready for use.
Yes,the same israel that flies into lebanese airspace whenit wants,bomds and attacks palestine when it wants,attacks peaceful floatillas and murder innocent civilians bringing aid to the palestinains who are starving and shut off from the world.The same Israel that flies into Syrian,Iraqi and any countries airspace when they want and who moan tothe world if a drone enters their airspace.

i could go on and on.

not sure what that has to do with the post you quoted

end of the road

Arthur Beesley wrote: »

Shows how much we care about the Palestinaisn.

why do you bother, wrong as per

end of the road

mad muffin wrote: »

People don't.

really?

mad muffin wrote: »

If they did they would be protesting against Hamas.

who says they aren't? if israel wasn't bombing the **** out of the place to steal more territory then Hamas wouldn't exist.

mad muffin wrote: »

Israel is an easy target.

awwwwwwwwwwww, poor bubbas, maybe if they weren't slaughtering civilians left right and centre there wouldn't be an issue

end of the road

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Hamas deliberately fire from Palestinian residential areas, schools and hospitals and store their rockets in civilian homes and use civilians as human shields.

They deliberately fire their rockets at Israeli civilians.
I ask you what are Israel supposed to do?
Allow these Islamic extremists impunity?

Hamas have the same Islamic supremacist ideology as ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, the Talibans and many more branches of the worldwide network of Islamic extremist political and terrorist organizations.

The ideology of these Muslim fanatics is death to Jews, death to the West and the creation of a global Islamic caliphate.

israel uses jewdaeism and the holicost as an excuse for their terrorist actions and as a way to make people and countries both afraid to criticise israel and feel bad about doing it, The ideology of the israely government is death to the arab population and the creation of a large jewish state at whatever cost, clenzeing the arabs who have been there before the existance of israel is the name of the game, but but shur thats grand, its poor little israel, what about the holicost, we must be able to do what we want because of the holicost, pathetic

Nodin

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Hamas (...........)caliphate.

Hysterical nonsense.

old aussie wrote:

Are these the same civillians that elected hamas to power with a majority of seats in parliment in 2006?

The same civillians that elected hamas knowing the agenda of hamas was to wipe out Israel?

Cause I really don't give a feck about them!
.

Give your track record of sectarianism that's hardly a surprise.

end of the road

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Hamas are putting their own people in harm's way by firing their rockets indiscriminately at Israelis with the intention of drawing down Israeli fire.

they fire rockets because its all they have because israel continues to in-prison them and murder them, Israeli fire will happen anyway without rockets.

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Israel have to hit the rockets, the rocket launchers and take out the terrorists to protect their own people.

no, what you mean to say is, Israel have to hit the infrastructure until nothing exists, and take out the arab population to take more territory for the jewish state

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Hamas are hiding among the Palestinians and when innocent women and children are killed - precisely what Hamas want - they get idiots to start screaming about so-called Israeli war crimes.

ah sweet jesus, the israelies commit war crimes on a daily basis, so people are "screaming" about something that is, you know, actually happening, but remember, the israely government use the holicost to excuse their actions and try silence its critics, thats how pathetic that government is.

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Israel should push on and finish Hamas off once and for all.

yes, the more women and children slaughtered to finish off a government that was democratically elected the better, well done, we now have full proof of what your about, good man

old_aussie

davmol wrote: »

what kind of world is this that a plonker who sings sh1t songs can get the headlines while innocent people are murdered by the Israeli war machine?!1:mad:

It's a free world, otherwise the news would be censured and you would be opressed, subjugated and forced to tow the line.

News papers can print the headlines they want.

It's a free world.

Chicks love cowboys :cool:

Giddy Up

old hippy

old_aussie wrote: »

It's a free world, otherwise the news would be censured and you would be opressed, subjugated and forced to tow the line.

News papers can print the headlines they want.

It's a free world.

Chicks love cowboys :cool:

Giddy Up

Not so free for the Palestinians though, eh?

Ash.J.Williams

old hippy wrote: »

Not so free for the Palestinians though, eh?

what have you done for the palestinians this week?

dj jarvis

Red Nissan wrote: »

We'll lose some Blue Berets if that happens.

JESUS - dont say that !!!! i said they same 10 pages back , and got called a hysterical fanatic who has not got a clue

careful now

old hippy

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

what have you done for the palestinians this week?

Well, for starters, I don't buy any Israeli produce - there's quite a lot of it in our supermarkets...

I used to go on a lot of marches/demos before I was old and doddery. Why do you ask? What have you done for the Israelis this week?

Ash.J.Williams

old hippy wrote: »

Well, for starters, I don't buy any Israeli produce - there's quite a lot of it in our supermarkets...

I used to go on a lot of marches/demos before I was old and doddery. Why do you ask? What have you done for the Israelis this week?

f**k all

old_aussie

old hippy wrote: »

Not so free for the Palestinians though, eh?

That's my point, they are trapped in one common ideology.

Small groups of people don't want to appear different to the collective ideology, otherwise they become persucuted.

The persecuted are the faction that is used by deceivers (e.g. Hitler) to deceive the masses.

They are united by some perceived common hatred, (WTF)

The free world on the other hand gets on with the important things in life like.....

When am I gonna get to see "my fav entertainer"

Azwaldo55

old hippy wrote: »

Not so free for the Palestinians though, eh?

The Palestinians don't want to be free. They want to submit to Allah and live under theocratic thugs and also kill Jews.

Nodin

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

The Palestinians don't want to be free. They want to submit to Allah and live under theocratic thugs and also kill Jews.

Dear Jesus. My only hope is that you're just trotting out that crap to get a reaction.

old_aussie

intellectual dosser wrote: »

I just saw the picture of the two year old boy, killed by a horrific head wound.

Neither side is right, but shame on the world for standing idly by. I may be just some guy behind a keyboard but history will judge us for this.

This must stop.

I just saw the picture of muslims killed by muslim extremists, just because the were catholic and not protestant shiite and not sunnie.

Describe "the world" for boardsies.... am I part of this world?

dj jarvis

[QUOTE=Azwaldo55;91270547The Palestinians don't want to be free. They want to submit to Allah and live under theocratic thugs and also kill Jew]s.[/QUOTE]

well ride me side ways !!!! they DONT want to be free ????

So for the last 50 odd years they have been spoofing when the say they just want to be free !!!

ok , im glad you furnished me with this new information - i would not want to appear to be an idiot on this thread .

fascinating stuff

Azwaldo55

Akrasia wrote: »

The palestinians are firing unguided rockets into Israel. They're ineffective and illegal and Hamas should stop all of these rocket attacks immediately. It would be far more effective for them to hold the moral high ground and stop all attacks against Israel in the hope that international pressure would cause Israel to back off.

Unfortunately, while the Israel air strikes might end, Israeli settlers would take this as an opportunity to move more and more ideologues closer to the border (and beyond) and occupy more and more of the Palestinian land.

The Palestinian people are in a hopeless situation, they are being squeezed out of their land and fenced into the worlds largest open air prison. They have absolutely no hope of winning a military conflict, but they're humans who have the urge to fight to defend themselves, so they lash out.

Israel make the same claims every single time they attack Palestine with excessive military force. They fire rockets onto busy marketplaces killing 'militants' and everyone unlucky enough to be standing near them and then they claim that the 'militants' were 'hiding amongst civilians'

Bullsh1t. Israel are defining 'existing' as 'hiding'. What does Israel expect Hamas to do? Israel classifies every male adult in Palestine to be a combatant. Israel define all of Hamas to be legitimate targets, all government employees, anyone who provides services to the government or to Hamas...

They're not even trying to make a legitimate argument anymore. It's all just denialist statements 'It was their fault that we killed an entire family when we shot missiles at that house last night, the fighters are using their own families as human shields'

It's utter bullsh1t

Whatever.

The facts are that Hamas are using hospitals and schools and civilian homes to hide rockets and/or using them as launch sites for rockets which are being used to target Israelis.

Israelis are hitting the rockets in the air with Iron Dome and also blowing the launchers and their operators and the rocket arsenals.

The Palestinians have only themselves to blame - they fantasize about killing all the Jews and conquering Israel - and this is why they live in squalor.

old_aussie

davmol wrote: »

Also,if my land was taken i would want to fight back and considering israel break international law time and time again and land grab palestinians land with illegal settlemtns,ican fully understand people wanting to join hamas.

Ya never owned it in the first place!

Azwaldo55

dj jarvis wrote: »

well ride me side ways !!!! they DONT want to be free ????

So for the last 50 odd years they have been spoofing when the say they just want to be free !!!

ok , im glad you furnished me with this new information - i would not want to appear to be an idiot on this thread .

fascinating stuff

Hamas are quite explicit about their aims. They want to establish an Islamic Caliphate and everyone who lives in the region must convert to Islam or die.

The aim of the Palestinians has always been to conquer Israel and mass murder all of the Jews.

Nodin

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Whatever.

The facts are that Hamas are using (.............)why they live in squalor.

Silly childish guff.

Hamas =/= all Palestinians.

Gaza =/= all of the occupied territories.

Four decades of colonisation =/= thriving Palestinian economy.

old hippy

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

f**k all

Ok...

old_aussie wrote: »

That's my point, they are trapped in one common ideology.

Small groups of people don't want to appear different to the collective ideology, otherwise they become persucuted.

The persecuted are the faction that is used by deceivers (e.g. Hitler) to deceive the masses.

They are united by some perceived common hatred, (WTF)

The free world on the other hand gets on with the important things in life like.....

When am I gonna get to see "my fav entertainer"

Once again, Garth Brooks trumps all.

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

The Palestinians don't want to be free. They want to submit to Allah and live under theocratic thugs and also kill Jews.

Vile propaganda. Do you know any Palestinians, btw?