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Poet, Activist, Parkinson's sufferer and Granny (80), likes her porridge.

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    #122
    FullblownRose
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    Pumpkinseeds wrote: »
    We should probably take bets on how long it will be before our 'first lady' Mrs D is down to visit and support her at tax payer expense, but not officially of course, oh no, I'm sure that will be another 'personal visit to an old friend'. I read about her comments to the judge at her last appearance at Ennis courts a few weeks ago. The judge told her she'd be back in prison if she didn't abide by his judgement and she said 'it'll have to wait until after my chemo'. Sanctimonius bitch had it coming.

    You get to a stage where youre either old or have justbeen through a fair bit or are going through chemo and you do not give two sh1tes about 'The Judge'. He is the sanctimonious one. Why shoud she not retort.life is short enough and given her age and illness that woman is 100% certain she has very little of it left, no wonder she won't be cowed by the 'judge'.


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    #123
    Banjoxed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Banjoxed


    Another self-important Aosdana tosseur, paid for by the taxpayer in every way. If you want Ireland to be a Dev throwback with isolation and grinding poverty then allying with Islamist fascists seems to be a pretty effective way to do it.


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    #124
    Ranchu
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    Jawgap wrote: »
    in what scenario would Irish planes being carrying arms through US airports? And what do you mean by 'Irish' planes? Planes operated by the Air Corps (and under the control of the government) or Irish companies operating aircraft (whether or not Irish registered) or Irish registered aircraft being operated by foreign companies / governments?

    Plus given the number of Irish registered planes leased out around the world the chances are some are carrying arms (and probably worse) at any given time.

    Without getting into any specifics which there are many. Do you thing the Americans would let anything land in any of their airports without knowing what's in them?

    They would in their holes and neither should we.


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    #125
    Jawgap
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    Ranchu wrote: »
    Without getting into any specifics which there are many. Do you thing the Americans would let anything land in any of their airports without knowing what's in them?

    They would in their holes and neither should we.

    Except we lack the power to anything about it........welcome to realpolitik.

    .......out of interest if we're stopping the Yanks and ramp checking them, should we start asking what all their IT, pharma and finance companies are doing and start expelling those who may have a finger or two in some of the more unpalatable pies in the world?


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    #126
    bumper234
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    Ranchu wrote: »
    Without getting into any specifics which there are many. Do you thing the Americans would let anything land in any of their airports without knowing what's in them?

    They would in their holes and neither should we.

    If you invaded an active runway at an American airport putting innocent lives at risk, do you think you would be arrested or shot?


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    #127
    Pumpkinseeds
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    FullblownRose wrote: »
    You get to a stage where youre either old or have justbeen through a fair bit or are going through chemo and you do not give two sh1tes about 'The Judge'. He is the sanctimonious one. Why shoud she not retort.life is short enough and given her age and illness that woman is 100% certain she has very little of it left, no wonder she won't be cowed by the 'judge'.

    I've spent a large part of my life in agonising chronic pain, in and out of hospital and I'm taking chemo medication but I don't see myself as being above the law. Age and illness is no justification for her behaviour. I stand by my statement that she is an attention whore, plain and simple.


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    #128
    Ranchu
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    If you invaded an active runway at an American airport putting innocent lives at risk, do you think you would be arrested or shot?

    Arrested hopefully. What do you think?


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    #129
    Ranchu
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    Jawgap wrote: »
    Except we lack the power to anything about it........welcome to realpolitik.

    .......out of interest if we're stopping the Yanks and ramp checking them, should we start asking what all their IT, pharma and finance companies are doing and start expelling those who may have a finger or two in some of the more unpalatable pies in the world?

    Yes.

    But the problem here is bigger as it effects our neutrality which is written in our constitution.


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    #130
    bumper234
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    Ranchu wrote: »
    Arrested hopefully. What do you think?

    If it was Wallace, Daly or that other bint? I wouldn't want arrest.


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    #131
    Ranchu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    bumper234 wrote: »
    If it was Wallace, Daly or that other bint? I wouldn't want arrest.

    So you would like to shoot them? What if I did it? Which was your original question.


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    #132
    Hotblack Desiato
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    Ranchu wrote: »
    Yes.

    But the problem here is bigger as it effects our neutrality which is written in our constitution.

    Where is it written?

    Life ain't always empty.



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    #133
    Jawgap
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    Ranchu wrote: »
    Yes.

    But the problem here is bigger as it effects our neutrality which is written in our constitution.

    We are not neutral, we are non-aligned - there's a significant and important difference.


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    #134
    Jawgap
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    Ranchu wrote: »
    Arrested hopefully. What do you think?

    I reckon if you breached the perimeter at a US airport you'd be given one warning, then shot - them farm boys over there aren't exactly known for restraint when it comes to using lethal force.


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    #135
    Arthur Beesley
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    Jawgap wrote: »
    I reckon if you breached the perimeter at a US airport you'd be given one warning, then shot - them farm boys over there aren't exactly known for restraint when it comes to using lethal force.

    Why bother with the warning? That's what signs are for.


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    #136
    Jawgap
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    What if they can't read? :D

    Or they think the barbed wire etc is there to keep people in rather than out? :D


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    #137
    bumper234
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    Ranchu wrote: »
    So you would like to shoot them? What if I did it? Which was your original question.

    No i wouldn't like to shoot them personally but if they were shot while trespassing onto an active airport putting lives at risk then i wouldn't shed a tear for them.


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    #138
    FullblownRose
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    Pumpkinseeds wrote: »
    I've spent a large part of my life in agonising chronic pain, in and out of hospital and I'm taking chemo medication but I don't see myself as being above the law. Age and illness is no justification for her behaviour. I stand by my statement that she is an attention whore, plain and simple.

    Sorry to hear that. I don't now much about the woman, she might be exacty that as a person. I'm not sure if I completely disagree with her protests though and I think the law is very often an ass and judges don't fully deserve the utter deference they're supposed to comand.


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    #139
    Jawgap
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    FullblownRose wrote: »
    Sorry to hear that. I don't now much about the woman, she might be exacty that as a person. I'm not sure if I completely disagree with her protests though and I think the law is very often an ass and judges don't fully deserve the utter deference they're supposed to comand.

    I think if you read back you'll see that in this case the law is anything but an ass.

    The airside of an airport is a dangerous place - and no place for the untrained or for people unfamiliar with airport ops.

    Second, what if her silly protest had gone unnoticed and she managed to damage a plane and slip away? It's easy enough to do something you might think is harmless but could easily bring down an aircraft or cause and engine fire or failure on the take-off run.

    By all means she should protest, and she should be allowed and facilitated to protest but not in a way that potentially puts someone else at risk.

    If you ask me, the judge wasn't harsh enough in light of the potential consequences......

    ......all that is leaving aside the fact that she only had to sign a bond promising to do what comes naturally to most people - staying within the law - prison was her choice, no else's.


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