Poet, Activist, Parkinson's sufferer and Granny (80), likes her porridge.

Lapin

She's back inside.

From Galway Bay FM

Galway Peace activist Margaretta D’Arcy has been returned to Limerick prison for failing to sign a bond to stay away from restricted parts of Shannon airport.

The 80 year old presented herself for arrest to Gardai at Mill Street Garda Station in the city earlier – on foot of a court warrant.

She was wearing an orange jumpsuit – and accompanied by supporters.

Margaretta D’Arcy has already served 9 weeks of a 3 month prison term for an illegal incursion of the runway at Shannon.


Hopefully they'll just release her quietly this evening and give her a lift home.

It's the last thing she would want.

Dolbert

Fair fcuks to her.

Kermit.de.frog

Age should be no inhibitor to justice.

SEPT 23 1989

Think its time for an extraordinary rendition for this troublemaker

Pumpkinseeds

Ah fcuk, I knew it wouldn't be long before those that support the mad old bint came on here AGAIN with the hand wringing and sickening support for her. She's a pain in the arse, leave her to it in prison, still I suppose she is on borrowed time and she hasn't got many more opportunities left for attention whoring.

WilyCoyote

Poet my arse! Attention-seeking shrew that writes dogrel.

Annasopra

Shes going on hunger strike

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/i-feel-very-honoured-to-be-going-back-to-jail-says-peace-activist-margaretta-darcy-as-shes-taken-into-custody-30418872.html

Donkey Oaty

Bad timing, in PR terms.

A hunger-striking orange-jumpsuit wearing Granny-poet cannot compete with gay cake, Garth Brooks and tonight's Argentina vs Netherlands.

And she's three years younger than Rolf Harris....zzzzzz.

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

Prisoners should not be allowed TVs and DVD player just so they can watch old BBC sitcoms.

Duggy747

A stint in Prisoner Cell Block H will change her mind about enjoying prison.

Or Oz....

darkpagandeath

What are they still protesting ? I thought the problem flight if any stopped in early 2000s ?

Arthur Beesley

Send her to Guantanamo. That'd learn her. Send the Hobbit and his wife too, if either objects.

Silly moo.

Luke92

I hate this one! Such a pain in the arse! I'd hate to be stuck in a cell with her! More than likely crying about Gaza now! All them Palestinians are just sour because Israel have the better rockets that actually do damage!

Pumpkinseeds

We should probably take bets on how long it will be before our 'first lady' Mrs D is down to visit and support her at tax payer expense, but not officially of course, oh no, I'm sure that will be another 'personal visit to an old friend'. I read about her comments to the judge at her last appearance at Ennis courts a few weeks ago. The judge told her she'd be back in prison if she didn't abide by his judgement and she said 'it'll have to wait until after my chemo'. Sanctimonius bitch had it coming.

Karl Stein

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Age should be no inhibitor to justice.

A troublesome two-year-old?

Fr_Dougal

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Shes going on hunger strike

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/i-feel-very-honoured-to-be-going-back-to-jail-says-peace-activist-margaretta-darcy-as-shes-taken-into-custody-30418872.html

Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels.

galwayrush

The last organised rally for her here in Galway attracted just enough people to spell her name out with a placard for each letter of her name. There were larger queues at the taxi rank.:D

dharma200

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJtd47bluYY

worth a watch

Galwayguy35

Leave the ould fool in there this time.

Another sad and pathetic publicity stunt by a woman who seems to thrive on attention. The best thing they could do is release her and then ignore all her attention grabbing crap. That or just throw her into a cell and leave her there to rot.

Jawgap

I wonder if she draws down the cnuas from Aosdana?

And if so why doesn't she hand it all back in protest at the same government who pays it out allowing Shannon to be used.......:rolleyes:

Autonomous Cowherd

Wow. What a bunch of wallys you are! At least one person,a sick and aged woman, will stand up against the use of Irish air fields for the purposes of extraordinary rendition, which in case you wallys don't know means that often quite ordinary people are lifted off their home streets, bundled onto planes and taken to places where the use of torture is legitimate, and all you can wrap your heads around is some denigration of that protester. What did any of you ever do in your lives that was purposeful, meaningful? I mean one fecking good thing? One thing that might make you something more than the rattling barrel you are? Wise up. Who will speak for you when they come for you, eh? When you finally decide that one thing that is your line in the sand, how many internet gob****es do you think will be on standby to throw stones at you?

I wonder how long before her supporters are in here telling us that "the people of Galway are behind her" even though the last few protests at her imprisonment had no more than a handful of people at each.

SEPT 23 1989

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

Wow. What a bunch of wallys you are! At least one person,a sick and aged woman, will stand up against the use of Irish air fields for the purposes of extraordinary rendition, which in case you wallys don't know means that often quite ordinary people are lifted off their home streets, bundled onto planes and taken to places where the use of torture is legitimate, and all you can wrap your heads around is some denigration of that protester. What did any of you ever do in your lives that was purposeful, meaningful? I mean one fecking good thing? One thing that might make you something more than the rattling barrel you are? Wise up. Who will speak for you when they come for you, eh? When you finally decide that one thing that is your line in the sand, how many internet gob****es do you think will be on standby to throw stones at you?

They wont come for me because I'm not trying to destroy our way of life in our hard earned western civilisation why is my hard earned tax money going to support this freeloading ignoramus?

darkpagandeath

Again did the rendition flight either never happen or stopped like in 2002 ? Whats the current protest about ?

Luke92

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

Wow. What a bunch of wallys you are! At least one person,a sick and aged woman, will stand up against the use of Irish air fields for the purposes of extraordinary rendition, which in case you wallys don't know means that often quite ordinary people are lifted off their home streets, bundled onto planes and taken to places where the use of torture is legitimate, and all you can wrap your heads around is some denigration of that protester. What did any of you ever do in your lives that was purposeful, meaningful? I mean one fecking good thing? One thing that might make you something more than the rattling barrel you are? Wise up. Who will speak for you when they come for you, eh? When you finally decide that one thing that is your line in the sand, how many internet gob****es do you think will be on standby to throw stones at you?

Glorified protester wasting peoples time. I really despise those professional protester types! Free the POWs one week then the next week its all about the water meters. ****ing idiots.

Jawgap

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

Wow. What a bunch of wallys you are! At least one person,a sick and aged woman, will stand up against the use of Irish air fields for the purposes of extraordinary rendition, which in case you wallys don't know means that often quite ordinary people are lifted off their home streets, bundled onto planes and taken to places where the use of torture is legitimate, and all you can wrap your heads around is some denigration of that protester. What did any of you ever do in your lives that was purposeful, meaningful? I mean one fecking good thing? One thing that might make you something more than the rattling barrel you are? Wise up. Who will speak for you when they come for you, eh? When you finally decide that one thing that is your line in the sand, how many internet gob****es do you think will be on standby to throw stones at you?

She has made her protest as is her right - and a right I would happily and energetically defend. she has brought attention to the issue.

But

She is in prison and remains there despite it being wholly within her power to have herself released. Being asked to sign the bond is not an unreasonable request - she has chosen her path and now expects the law of the land (which actually protects us from arbitrary arrest and detention) to be set aside. Why should it?

She can avail of the full facility of the legal and judicial process.

If she feels she has such a compelling case, and she enjoys popular support, then she can put herself forward for election, as previous individuals have done to highlight the merits of their protest.

I wonder why she doesn't?

Pumpkinseeds

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

Wow. What a bunch of wallys you are! At least one person,a sick and aged woman, will stand up against the use of Irish air fields for the purposes of extraordinary rendition, which in case you wallys don't know means that often quite ordinary people are lifted off their home streets, bundled onto planes and taken to places where the use of torture is legitimate, and all you can wrap your heads around is some denigration of that protester. What did any of you ever do in your lives that was purposeful, meaningful? I mean one fecking good thing? One thing that might make you something more than the rattling barrel you are? Wise up. Who will speak for you when they come for you, eh? When you finally decide that one thing that is your line in the sand, how many internet gob****es do you think will be on standby to throw stones at you?

Go sell crazy somewhere else we don't need any here.

Autonomous Cowherd

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

Wow. What a bunch of wallys you are! At least one person,a sick and aged woman, will stand up against the use of Irish air fields for the purposes of extraordinary rendition, which in case you wallys don't know means that often quite ordinary people are lifted off their home streets, bundled onto planes and taken to places where the use of torture is legitimate, and all you can wrap your heads around is some denigration of that protester. What did any of you ever do in your lives that was purposeful, meaningful? I mean one fecking good thing? One thing that might make you something more than the rattling barrel you are? Wise up. Who will speak for you when they come for you, eh? When you finally decide that one thing that is your line in the sand, how many internet gob****es do you think will be on standby to throw stones at you?

I've done plenty good with my life, but I don't feel the need to inflict my good causes on others!
This person actively seeks controversy and gets kicks out of wasting police time and taxpayers money.
I doubt anyone will come for me, as I live within the law in a civilised society. Anyway, orange jumpsuits wouldn't be my thing. Neither the garment nor the colour!

Autonomous Cowherd

Jawgap wrote: »

She has made her protest as is her right - and a right I would happily and energetically defend. she has brought attention to the issue.

But

She is in prison and remains there despite it being wholly within her power to have herself released. Being asked to sign the bond is not an unreasonable request - she has chosen her path and now expects the law of the land (which actually protects us from arbitrary arrest and detention) to be set aside. Why should it?

She can avail of the full facility of the legal and judicial process.

If she feels she has such a compelling case, and she enjoys popular support, then she can put herself forward for election, as previous individuals have done to highlight the merits of their protest.

I wonder why she doesn't?

Thank you for your reasonable response.

I would counter by saying why should she sign a bond to stay away from the site of her protest at Shannon, since this would totally undermine the whole thrust of her protest. The law and courts are not always reasonable, and can be used to stymie protest. Plus once-off protest has little effect...most campaigns have to be sustained and prolonged in order to reach the mass of people who to be honest hardly give a moments thought past what goes into their belly, where they sleep, who they get jiggy with and whats on the telly.

I think she is entitled to protest, entitled to bring the grave state of extraordinary rendition to our consciousness again and again, and this lark about tax payers money....people should wise up about what their tax payers money is spent on, bun fights in the dail, expenses for well clad ''politicians'', and propping up the EU banks at the expense of our being financially enslaved for generations to come. Why do people worry about their tax euros going to the upkeep of Ms D'Arcy and not to the upkeep of the bondholders and bankers who live lives of often obscene wealth...
anyways..sigh..

darkpagandeath

Maybe the above poster can answer my question, Did the Rendition flights either never happen or stopped circa 2002 ? Why do we need to be reminded about something that either never happened or has stopped years ago ?

Autonomous Cowherd

Deleted User wrote: »

I've done plenty good with my life, but I don't feel the need to inflict my good causes on others!
This person actively seeks controversy and gets kicks out of wasting police time and taxpayers money.
I doubt anyone will come for me, as I live within the law in a civilised society. Anyway, orange jumpsuits wouldn't be my thing. Neither the garment nor the colour!

You may live within the law in a civilised country for now, but that quote i referenced is from Niemoller..who opposed the Nazi regime. Things do not always fall for us the way we might like them to, your child might live outside the law and be victimised, if they were homosexual not a couple of decades ago they could have been prosecuted, law is mutable and prone to error. Savita Hallapanavar fell outside the protection of this ''civilised law''. Don't get too comfy is all im saying. And Im sure orange would look delightful on you

Pumpkinseeds

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

You may live within the law in a civilised country for now, but that quote i referenced is from Niemoller..who opposed the Nazi regime. Things do not always fall for us the way we might like them to, your child might live outside the law and be victimised, if they were homosexual not a couple of decades ago they could have been prosecuted, law is mutable and prone to error. Savita Hallapanavar fell outside the protection of this ''civilised law''. Don't get too comfy is all im saying. And Im sure orange would look delightful on you

Thank you soo much I really needed a good laugh today and your post provided it:)

Autonomous Cowherd

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Maybe the above poster can answer my question, Did the Rendition flights either never happen or stopped circa 2002 ? Why do we need to be reminded about something that either never happened or has stopped years ago ?

Extraordinary rendition is not something governments advertise In their manifesto. But if you believe that the US stopped picking up suspected ''terrorists'' 12 years ago and have never laid a finger on anyone since under any veil of illegality, then fine, that's your choice. Meanwhile military planes refuel at Shannon. Why should we allow that when we claim neutrality?

Jawgap

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

Thank you for your reasonable response.

I would counter by saying why should she sign a bond to stay away from the site of her protest at Shannon, since this would totally undermine the whole thrust of her protest. The law and courts are not always reasonable, and can be used to stymie protest. Plus once-off protest has little effect...most campaigns have to be sustained and prolonged in order to reach the mass of people who to be honest hardly give a moments thought past what goes into their belly, where they sleep, who they get jiggy with and whats on the telly.

I think she is entitled to protest, entitled to bring the grave state of extraordinary rendition to our consciousness again and again, and this lark about tax payers money....people should wise up about what their tax payers money is spent on, bun fights in the dail, expenses for well clad ''politicians'', and propping up the EU banks at the expense of our being financially enslaved for generations to come. Why do people worry about their tax euros going to the upkeep of Ms D'Arcy and not to the upkeep of the bondholders and bankers who live lives of often obscene wealth...
anyways..sigh..

She is entitled to protest, but she's not entitled to break the law. And yes the courts have and are used to prevent or moderate protest........but they've also been used to facilitate it - and in our system she gets to make her case, and appeal it beyond our own legal system to supra-national bodies which we've agreed to be bound by.

I believe she is citing the defence of 'necessity' - even a cursory reading of the precedent around that principle would show she's not on a winner.

Also, before you go down the route of raising the issue of people being aware "what their tax payers money is spent on" I'd advise confirming that she has never drawn the cnuas - €17,000+ tax free a year for what??? It's quite possible that she's had a few crumbs from that particular trough.

As I said, if she wants to make a protest, in addition to everything she's done why not resign from Aosdana and have nothing to do with the government?

Jawgap

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

Extraordinary rendition is not something governments advertise In their manifesto. But if you believe that the US stopped picking up suspected ''terrorists'' 12 years ago and have never laid a finger on anyone since under any veil of illegality, then fine, that's your choice. Meanwhile military planes refuel at Shannon. Why should we allow that when we claim neutrality?

We don't claim neutrality.

We're non-aligned.

.......oh, and when do the protests begin outside Intel - do you reckon every chip they produce goes to benign civilian uses.

......do you not feel there is even a sniff of irony that you are facilitated in making your points on the internet - something that had its genesis in a project devised, developed and implemented by the US military?

darkpagandeath

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

Extraordinary rendition is not something governments advertise In their manifesto. But if you believe that the US stopped picking up suspected ''terrorists'' 12 years ago and have never laid a finger on anyone since under any veil of illegality, then fine, that's your choice. Meanwhile military planes refuel at Shannon. Why should we allow that when we claim neutrality?

Have we any proof that a flight landed here with rendition people aboard? And I thought the people landing in American planes here were none combatants as it's the transport flights were talking about, that or people flying back from a tour. Have we any proof armed American troops pass through Shannon ?

SEPT 23 1989

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

Extraordinary rendition is not something governments advertise In their manifesto. But if you believe that the US stopped picking up suspected ''terrorists'' 12 years ago and have never laid a finger on anyone since under any veil of illegality, then fine, that's your choice. Meanwhile military planes refuel at Shannon. Why should we allow that when we claim neutrality?

Why do you defend people who want to bomb our planes buses and trains to murder us in cold blood and see an end to our western civilisation?

Autonomous Cowherd

Jawgap wrote: »

We don't claim neutrality.

We're non-aligned.

.......oh, and when do the protests begin outside Intel - do you reckon every chip they produce goes to benign civilian uses.

......do you not feel there is even a sniff of irony that you are facilitated in making your points on the internet - something that had its genesis in a project devised, developed and implemented by the US military?

No, not really, I don't feel the irony. After all lots of things had strange genesis.
And yes, i think there should be an awareness that many products made in seemingly benign industries here in Ireland are used ultimately in the manufacture of armaments. Last time i looked which was a good 10 years ago, there were over 200 permits for products destined for military use. one of the greatest ironies i ever saw was many years ago when John Hume and David Trimble (winners of many peace prizes and the Nobel in 1998) were pictured opening a start up factory in Derry financed by peace funds where components were being made for guided missiles.
Life is ironic yes.

Autonomous Cowherd

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

And Im sure orange would look delightful on you

Aw, shucks. Flattery will get you nowhere! Just off to bake buns for a very worthy cause - A hungry Hubby and Kids.

Hotblack Desiato

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

I would counter by saying why should she sign a bond to stay away from the site of her protest at Shannon, since this would totally undermine the whole thrust of her protest.

Because she has endangered public safety but most of all her own safety.

If you've never seen what human body meets turbofan engine looks like, I can PM you some pics if you'd like.

Autonomous Cowherd

ninja900 wrote: »

Because she has endangered public safety but most of all her own safety.

If you've never seen what human body meets turbofan engine looks like, I can PM you some pics if you'd like.

Nah. First time I've been offered a PM on here though. But still ...nah

darkpagandeath

ninja900 wrote: »

Because she has endangered public safety but most of all her own safety.

If you've never seen what human body meets turbofan engine looks like, I can PM you some pics if you'd like.

You would be better off sending pictures of what a massive plane crash looks like on landing or after take off due to foreign debris on the runway.

I hate how all these threads about her mention that she's a grandmother and Parkinson's sufferer. Does either give her the right to break the law? She willingly broke the law and should be punished. She is in prison now because she refused to sign a bond and as such she put herself there. She is not a victim as her supporters would like you to believe. She believes herself outside the law and seems to think that laws are there so as to be broken to prove a point. She willingly entered a restricted area and should pay the price.

Like many profession protesters she's quite happy to accept handouts from the government but which to flaunt the law when it suits het

Reformed Character

She is a professional activist who chooses to look for ways to get jailed.
I just hope that any state allowances she was claiming (Household budget, medical card etc) are withdrawn now that she is in prison, as is the norm for all convicted criminals.

Autonomous Cowherd

I think people on here might not quite understand the meaning of the word ''Professional''...it is getting thrown around a lot and in the wrong context. professional means engaged in a specified activity as one's main PAID occupation. Margretta D'Arcy does not get paid to protest. i think you are looking for a different word, like ''regular'' or ''committed'' or i don't know, choose a word yerselves that is more accurate.

As for those who would have an old lady live in penury for daring to express her opinion, I hope the sun always shines for ye.

Reformed Character

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

I think people on here might not quite understand the meaning of the word ''Professional''...it is getting thrown around a lot and in the wrong context. professional means engaged in a specified activity as one's main PAID occupation. Margretta D'Arcy does not get paid to protest. i think you are looking for a different word, like ''regular'' or ''committed'' or i don't know, choose a word yerselves that is more accurate.

As for those who would have an old lady live in penury for daring to express her opinion, I hope the sun always shines for ye.

I take your point, I should have referred to her as a "career criminal" as opposed to " a professional activist".

Autonomous Cowherd

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

As for those who would have an old lady live in penury for daring to express her opinion, I hope the sun always shines for ye.

Theres a difference between expressing ones opinions and breaking the law.

Jawgap

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

I think people on here might not quite understand the meaning of the word ''Professional''...it is getting thrown around a lot and in the wrong context. professional means engaged in a specified activity as one's main PAID occupation. Margretta D'Arcy does not get paid to protest. i think you are looking for a different word, like ''regular'' or ''committed'' or i don't know, choose a word yerselves that is more accurate.

As for those who would have an old lady live in penury for daring to express her opinion, I hope the sun always shines for ye.

She's paid out of the public purse for her artistic endeavours - a condition of the tax free payment she receives is that she works full time at being an artist. She has, of her own volition, placed herself in a position where she cannot work full time.

Surely, the arts funding she receives would be better spent by diverting it, perhaps, to another artist who is willing to honour the terms of the payment?

Wouldn't it be great if the government just paid us and then left us to do what we wanted?

Autonomous Cowherd

Deleted User wrote: »

Theres a difference between expressing ones opinions and breaking the law.

Okay. There is.
But i feel there is too much clout here been given to the ''law''.
The law as I have said before is a mutable thing. Up to a certain point in history women were not permitted to vote, and women protested (in a prolonged and annoying manner) and this law was repealed. Up to a certain point in history homosexual relations were illegal, and people protested (again in an annoying and uncomfortable manner) and the unjust law was repealed. Up to a certain point in history black people were forbidden to sit near the front of buses in America and Rosa Parkes protested in a way that made the white people on the bus feel repelled....ie by taking a seat amongst them...illegally.

The point is the law is often an ass, it often takes repeated protest to bring it to account, and undoubtedly future generations will look back on some of our present day ''laws'' (including legally maintained places like Guantanamo Bay and rendition and invasion of privacy by governments and so on and so forth) and wonder why we were so stupid as civilised populations to live with such barbarity.