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Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v 4.0 (08/07/14 to date)

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    #1712
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,140 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Is Adams ever going to step down?


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    #1713
    dublincelt
    Registered Users Posts: 409 ✭✭dublincelt


    AndonHandon wrote: »
    The victim of crime does not decide whether to bring a criminal case, it is the decision of the DPP.

    "All charges were dropped, and the accused rapist was acquitted after Ms Cahill withdrew her evidence."

    (c) BBC

    Diferent question, why did she withdraw her evidence?


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    #1714
    Busted Flat.
    Registered Users Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    He is too busy doing a remake of Mrs. Robinison.


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    #1715
    AndonHandon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭AndonHandon


    dublincelt wrote: »
    "All charges were dropped, and the accused rapist was acquitted after Ms Cahill withdrew her evidence."

    (c) BBC

    Diferent question, why did she withdraw her evidence?

    She gave her reason, we can't put words in her mouth.


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    #1716
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,140 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Eoin should stop digging.


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    #1717
    Busted Flat.
    Registered Users Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    Vin B and his cohorts see the sand wash from under his feet. Roll on UTV IRL.


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    #1718
    Heat_Wave
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    Without evidence this is a very difficult one to call. On one hand she could be telling the truth, on the other hand she could be destroying a man's/Parties reputation. A lot of things do not add up here


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    #1719
    take everything
    Registered Users Posts: 9,804 ✭✭✭take everything


    But shur Gerry was never in the IRA, why would he be involved.


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    #1720
    gladrags
    Registered Users Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭gladrags


    AndonHandon wrote: »
    Hypothetical. Assumptive. Manipulative.

    Who is this "brave girl" standing up to?

    I am making no assumptions.

    You clearly are.

    The claims this individual is making are unfounded.

    You are prempting natural justice.

    Innocent until proven guilty.


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    #1721
    take everything
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    First Christmas ad- middle of October.


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    #1722
    freddiek
    Registered Users Posts: 334 ✭✭freddiek


    that girl was very well coached.

    Eilis O'Hanlon's cousin??

    Sindo probably are paying her expenses.


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    #1723
    Phoebas
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    Heat_Wave wrote: »
    Without evidence this is a very difficult one to call. On one hand she could be telling the truth, on the other hand she could be destroying a man's/Parties reputation. A lot of things do not add up here

    Adam's reputation in relation to handling sexual abuse cases is already destroyed.


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    #1724
    AndonHandon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭AndonHandon


    gladrags wrote: »
    Who is this "brave girl" standing up to?

    I am making no assumptions.

    You clearly are.

    The claims this individual is making are unfounded.

    You are prempting natural justice.

    Innocent until proven guilty.

    The claims of abuse have not been tested. The claims of being investigated by members of SF/IRA in relation to her abuse should be met with threats of defamatory legal proceedings, if untrue. Of course, truth is a defence to defamation so issuing proceedings may not be the wisest if this is something which is sought to be covered up.


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    #1725
    Busted Flat.
    Registered Users Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    This show has to go down as the worst show in the series, this is not justice for Maria, just being used by a failed politician, a mouth piece for FG and a failed journo. Very sad for the future of politics in our country. No hope for our future.


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    #1726
    sligojoek
    Registered Users Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Is that poor girl watching this shambles from backstage? :eek:

    What on earth has MLOD to add to the (non) debate? And who's this other geezer?
    I'm guessing she was sent in by Enda to do a hatchet job on Adams


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    #1727
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    More impossible to prove allegations at pivotal times in NI.
    In other news the DUP refused to take part in talks today because an Irish minister was present, not a dickie bird about it on Vinnie,


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    #1728
    Busted Flat.
    Registered Users Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    Did I just hear the failed journo say the war was over. An admittance that it was a war,and not a terrorist campaign, this is a first for the failed Journo.


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    #1729
    Busted Flat.
    Registered Users Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    sligojoek wrote: »
    I'm guessing she was sent in by Enda to do a hatchet job on Adams

    She has the head for it.


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    #1730
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Busted Flat. wrote: »
    Did I just hear the failed journo say the war was over. An admittance that it was a war,and not a terrorist campaign, this is a first for the failed Journo.

    To paraphrase Vinnie's own admission...'the dogs in the street knew what was going on in the church in Ireland' but did he as a journalist expose and even report it? Hypocrisy to the high heavens there.


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    #1731
    gladrags
    Registered Users Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭gladrags


    AndonHandon wrote: »
    The claims of abuse have not been tested. The claims of being investigated by members of SF/IRA in relation to her abuse should be met with threats of defamatory legal proceedings, if untrue. Of course, truth is a defence to defamation so issuing proceedings may not be the wisest if this is something which is sought to be covered up.

    The bottom line is a court of law, or the Euro court,or court North or South.

    Trial by medis is not in anyones interest

    Particularly this person.

    Manipulation yes


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    #1732
    Busted Flat.
    Registered Users Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    What would the relevance of that be?

    One guesses she's not a SF fan!

    Serious question to ask, does she support the dissidents, what is her political connections, or connections to low life journos looking for a score to improve their image. In this day and age these questions need to be asked.She could be credible, I have no reason to doubt her version of events. But she came across as well tutored for her first time on TV.


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    #1733
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Busted Flat. wrote: »
    Serious question to ask, does she support the dissidents, what is her political connections, or connections to low life journos looking for a score to improve their image. In this day and age these questions need to be asked.She could be credible, I have no reason to doubt her version of events. But she came across as well tutored for her first time on TV.

    You have to be meticulous as a journalist and as a citizen when it comes to stuff like this. Because there are so many un-provable allegations, what are we up to now? Vinnie was already convinced in his intro to this section, which doesn't reflect well on him as a journalist tbh. The alleations just seem to keep coming and never go anywhere, but they do keep the anti SF /republcan crowd morally and indignantly outraged, funnily enough.


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    #1734
    Busted Flat.
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    I think the age of consent in the UK is 16. Questions, Questions, Questions.


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    #1735
    Phoebas
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    Busted Flat. wrote: »
    Serious question to ask, does she support the dissidents, what is her political connections, or connections to low life journos looking for a score to improve their image. In this day and age these questions need to be asked.She could be credible, I have no reason to doubt her version of events. But she came across as well tutored for her first time on TV.
    Lets try to put the blame on the victim....
    Busted Flat. wrote: »
    I think the age of consent in the UK is 16. Questions, Questions, Questions.
    ... or muddy the water in some other way.


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    #1736
    Busted Flat.
    Registered Users Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    Phoebas wrote: »
    Lets try to put the blame on the victim....


    ... or muddy the water in some other way.

    I am not trying to put the blame on the victim, the council elections, we had Adams arrest in the north, SF and AAA wipe the floor in the by elections and this comes up with mickey martin speaking on the plinth with Maria, then we have VB show trial. As I said Questions Questions Questions.


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    #1737
    Xenophile
    Registered Users Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    The girl interviewed last night on VB has remained nameless on this forum , if I am wrong give me the number of the post where she is named. I tried to watch this programme on 3Player several times but it breaks down after about twenty minutes. Is this a form of censorship !

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



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    #1738
    Lady Chatterton
    Registered Users Posts: 19,585 ✭✭✭✭Lady Chatterton


    Xenophile wrote: »
    The girl interviewed last night on VB has remained nameless on this forum , if I am wrong give me the number of the post where she is named. I tried to watch this programme on 3Player several times but it breaks down after about twenty minutes. Is this a form of censorship !
    Mairia Cahill

    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/sinn-fein-engulfed-by-yet-another-sex-abuse-scandal-as-iras-kangaroo-court-exposed-by-victim-30670742.html


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    #1739
    Xenophile
    Registered Users Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Thanks to the mod who named the lady involved.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1017/653056-cahill/

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



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    #1740
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Xenophile wrote: »
    The girl interviewed last night on VB has remained nameless on this forum , if I am wrong give me the number of the post where she is named. I tried to watch this programme on 3Player several times but it breaks down after about twenty minutes. Is this a form of censorship !

    She gave up her anonimity back in 2009-10. Nobody is censoring anything.


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    #1741
    Busted Flat.
    Registered Users Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    Is this a party political broadcast on behalf of criminals in Irish water.


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