Xbox One/360 Dashboard & Update Discussion (Retail/Beta/Preview Versions)

Mickeroo

I see there's a free upgrade to Win 10 available, what kind of specs would my laptop need to not **** itself?

Fingleberries

Mickeroo wrote: »

I see there's a free upgrade to Win 10 available, what kind of specs would my laptop need to not **** itself?

If your PC can run Windows 7 (SP1) or Windows 8.1 then it will likely run Windows 10 ok.

You can dual-boot Windows 10 as a VHD on your machine - it's relatively quick and best of all very easy to roll back to your normal OS.
You only need to have the space on your HDD to do it.
Sample link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1aNg5zKG1g

I've been running it as my main OS since October and bar the odd App hang or crash (it is prerelease at the mo) it's been fine. The latest build is far more polished, too.

CatInABox

Mickeroo wrote: »

I see there's a free upgrade to Win 10 available, what kind of specs would my laptop need to not **** itself?

They're here.

It's probably the lightest "weight" of the recent Windows, but you should take those specs with a pinch of salt, you should really be installing on something better.

Also, it's not actually out until July 29th, and you can get the free upgrade for a year, so there's no hurry.

Fingleberries

On the Xbox One side of things, I have a few questions:

- Has there been any update that has stopped other functions on the Xbox from occurring? (e.g. TV)
- Do the updates occur during the night or can they occur in prime time (e.g. 5pm - 12 pm)?

The main reason for asking is that I'd be interested in running the preview, but the Xbox is hooked up to the main TV and interrupting TV because of an update / bug would not go down well at all in the house.

Thanks in advance.

MJohnston

Fingleberries wrote: »

On the Xbox One side of things, I have a few questions:

- Has there been any update that has stopped other functions on the Xbox from occurring? (e.g. TV)
- Do the updates occur during the night or can they occur in prime time (e.g. 5pm - 12 pm)?

The main reason for asking is that I'd be interested in running the preview, but the Xbox is hooked up to the main TV and interrupting TV because of an update / bug would not go down well at all in the house.

Thanks in advance.

The preview updates for the Xbox One have been, in my experience, entirely solid and bug free. They can occur during the night if you have active standby or whatever it's called enabled. I believe that if you're actually using the console when it tries to update, it'll prompt you about whether you want to or not.

Mickeroo

Fingleberries wrote: »

If your PC can run Windows 7 (SP1) or Windows 8.1 then it will likely run Windows 10 ok.

You can dual-boot Windows 10 as a VHD on your machine - it's relatively quick and best of all very easy to roll back to your normal OS.
You only need to have the space on your HDD to do it.
Sample link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1aNg5zKG1g

I've been running it as my main OS since October and bar the odd App hang or crash (it is prerelease at the mo) it's been fine. The latest build is far more polished, too.

CatInABox wrote: »

They're here.

It's probably the lightest "weight" of the recent Windows, but you should take those specs with a pinch of salt, you should really be installing on something better.

Also, it's not actually out until July 29th, and you can get the free upgrade for a year, so there's no hurry.

Excellent, my laptop should run that without any issues I think.

Fingleberries

Mickeroo wrote: »

Excellent, my laptop should run that without any issues I think.

The little "Reserve your Windows 10" app will also perform a quick scan on your machine to determine if there's anything that might catch you out (software, drivers or mad hardware) with the Windows 10 upgrade.

Fingleberries

MJohnston wrote: »

The preview updates for the Xbox One have been, in my experience, entirely solid and bug free. They can occur during the night if you have active standby or whatever it's called enabled. I believe that if you're actually using the console when it tries to update, it'll prompt you about whether you want to or not.

Thanks and how often would it happen? Seems that there have been two or three preview updates a month lately?

MJohnston

Fingleberries wrote: »

Thanks and how often would it happen? Seems that there have been two or three preview updates a month lately?

No, it's usually one per month (they're referred to as the [Insert-month-name-here] System Update after all). I think one recent month had two updates because they had to wait to deliver the Wireless Display app.

CatInABox

MJohnston wrote: »

No, it's usually one per month (they're referred to as the [Insert-month-name-here] System Update after all). I think one recent month had two updates because they had to wait to deliver the Wireless Display app.

Ah, the preview can be updated on a much more frequent basis, depending on any problems with the update.

The most recent preview for the June update has had about 4 updates so far (this month is a bit weird because some are getting it, some aren't), but most of them have rolled out at 2AM GMT.

MJohnston

Hmm, I guess I never really notice those minor updates, because I use mine in Instant-On mode.

CatInABox

MJohnston wrote: »

Hmm, I guess I never really notice those minor updates, because I use mine in Instant-On mode.

Neither do I to be honest, but I visit the Preview forums, and then subscribe to the Announcements forum, so I get an email any time an update comes out.

Fingleberries

CatInABox wrote: »

Ah, the preview can be updated on a much more frequent basis, depending on any problems with the update.

The most recent preview for the June update has had about 4 updates so far (this month is a bit weird because some are getting it, some aren't), but most of them have rolled out at 2AM GMT.

Thanks again to all for the answers.

I got an "welcome to the preview program" invite out of the blue from Xbox a few weeks ago and was worried about screwing up the Xbox connected to the telly ("No TV makes Homer something, something"). I'll probably give it a whirl now - sure I've already got my phone, laptop and tablet running Windows 10 preview: Why have anything on a safe software level?

[EDIT]
Hmm. Looks like the Microsoft invite expired (or disappeared from my messages), seems that fate has taken the choice out of my hands.

If anyone has an Invite to spare for the preview program, my GT is the same as username here on boards, could you please send an invite to me? Thanks.

CatInABox

Fingleberries wrote: »

Thanks again to all for the answers.

I got an "welcome to the preview program" invite out of the blue from Xbox a few weeks ago and was worried about screwing up the Xbox connected to the telly ("No TV makes Homer something, something"). I'll probably give it a whirl now - sure I've already got my phone, laptop and tablet running Windows 10 preview: Why have anything on a safe software level?

[EDIT]
Hmm. Looks like the Microsoft invite expired (or disappeared from my messages), seems that fate has taken the choice out of my hands.

If anyone has an Invite to spare for the preview program, my GT is the same as username here on boards, could you please send an invite to me? Thanks.

Finally got this done Fingleberries, sorry for the delay.

runawaybishop

Fingleberries wrote: »

On the Xbox One side of things, I have a few questions:

- Has there been any update that has stopped other functions on the Xbox from occurring? (e.g. TV)
- Do the updates occur during the night or can they occur in prime time (e.g. 5pm - 12 pm)?

The main reason for asking is that I'd be interested in running the preview, but the Xbox is hooked up to the main TV and interrupting TV because of an update / bug would not go down well at all in the house.

Thanks in advance.

There have been updates that blocked functionality, but they are typically rolled back same day. Update frequency is anything from 2 to a dozen updates usually, but 3ish would be more standard.

Updates can be forced by the user as soon as they are available but become mandatory after a certain amount of time, I.e 24 hours after they are released or rolled, depending.

If you are funneling TV via the console and an update becomes mandatory you can just stay offline and continue watching tv, or alternatively check and force the update before you settle down for the night.

Fingleberries

CatInABox wrote: »

Finally got this done Fingleberries, sorry for the delay.

Thanks for that - Hopefully MS will process it before all their E3 announcements.

rottie 11

My xbox one just updated. What's in this update?

MiskyBoyy

We're super excited to share that Xbox One Preview members running Windows 10 can try Game Streaming - TODAY! We'll let you know when it's available. In the meantime, read below for answers to your frequently asked questions!

Frequently Asked Questions

Q: Which games will I be able to stream?  Is Kinect supported?

A: Most Xbox One games will be able to stream.  Some exceptions are Kinect titles and games requiring other special hardware not supported on the PC.

Q: So will all other games, besides Kinect titles and games requiring other special hardware, be supported for streaming?

A: Publishers will have the right to opt-out, but most titles will stream to the PC.  (As of Public Preview start there are no games/publishers who have explicitly opted out.)

Q: Is it only games that stream, or is it the whole console (mirroring)?  Is there anything that doesn’t stream?

A: The console experience is mirrored, so users will be able navigate Home and other apps.  Apps that playback protected content such as movies, TV shows or other video content with digital rights management will not stream to the PC.

Q: Is an Xbox Live Gold account required?

A: A user will need to have the same Xbox Live account configured on their Xbox One consoles and the Xbox on Windows 10 PCs. If a user wants to use Game Streaming to play multi-player enabled games, then an Xbox Live Gold subscription will be required.

Q: Are multiplayer and voice chat supported?

A: Yes, multiplayer and voice chat via Xbox One will be supported while game streaming. An Xbox Live Gold subscription is required to use online multiplayer functionality while game streaming. Voice chat with other players and party members is supported with Xbox and Windows-compatible microphones and headset devices.

Q: What kind of controllers can I use?

A: Currently, the controllers attached to a PC will need to support a wired USB connection. Use the Xbox One controller with your Windows 10 PC for the best experience.  Xbox 360 and Xbox licensed controllers can also be used.  Racing wheels & fight sticks are not supported at launch but we will continue to evaluate this for the future roadmap. Later this year, we’ll be delivering a Wireless Adapter that will let you use current Xbox controllers and future devices wirelessly on your PCs. The team will work to enable game streaming functionality to work with Xbox controllers connected via the new Wireless Adapter.

Q: Will keyboard/mouse be supported on PC for game streaming from Xbox One?

A: No, there is no support for using the PC’s keyboard & mouse to play controller based games being streamed from Xbox One. You will need a controller connected to your PC to use game streaming with Xbox One games.

Q: I’m using wireless connections and my experience is not great.  I have glitching/stuttering/lag and game streaming is not working well for me, what can I do to improve the experience?

A: Wired connections for your Xbox One and Windows 10 devices will provide the best quality and performance. Game streaming pushes the performance limits of many wireless networks and devices. Many factors play a role in good streaming performance including the router, number of devices connected, distance of your devices from the router as well as number of walls wireless signals have to pass through. A modern router and wireless adapter are recommended.  A router that supports 802.11AC or 802.11N and has 5Ghz band support will likely yield the best results.

If you are using wireless connectivity on your devices, more troubleshooting and tips can be found at support.xbox.com.

Q: Can I use Twitch or Game DVR while game streaming?

A: Due to technical constraints, Twitch and GameDVR will be disabled while game streaming and other users will not be able to use the Xbox One console to do something else. If your Windows 10 PC meets the requirements of GameDVR for Windows 10, you will be able to record epic moments from game streaming on your PC.

Q: Can I watch TV at the console while someone else is streaming a game?

A: Due to technical constraints, other users will not be able to use the Xbox One console to do something else. During game streaming the Xbox One console will appear “in use” as though the person streaming was in the room. An Xbox One console player can play with a streaming player by attaching a controller to the console, signing in, and joining the game if it supports local multiplayer.

Q: When I play certain games (e.g. Call of Duty, Thief), I can’t transition over to game streaming and need to restart my game – why does this happen?

A: A few games do not support dynamic controller reassignment.  This is a known issue and not something that can be addressed without an update to the game.

Q: Can I stream with multiple PCs?

A: You are free to use as many Win10 PCs as you like to stream games from your Xbox One, but only one PC can connect at a time.

Q: Can I play across screens – one user at the console and another streaming from a PC?

A: Yes. An Xbox One console player can play with a streaming player by attaching a controller to the console, signing in, and joining the game if it supports local multiplayer. Both players will see the same view on their screens.


Source: http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_early_access/update_preview/update_preview_forums/wave_15_1507/f/5376/t/1988577.aspx

TitianGerm

Thanks to Ferrigan and Misky. I got my reply from Xbox Live this morning and I'm now a member of the Preview program

CatInABox

emmetkenny wrote: »

Thanks to Ferrigan and Misky. I got my reply from Xbox Live this morning and I'm now a member of the Preview program

14 hour response time, all while Live was "taking a quick nap"? Pretty impressive.

TitianGerm

CatInABox wrote: »

14 hour response time, all while Live was "taking a quick nap"? Pretty impressive.

Its all downloaded now anyway so looking forward to giving it a go

At this rate (not just here but from seeing other sites) nobody is going to be on a standard dash anymore

citytillidie

I would rather be on the standard dash until most bugs are sorted

runawaybishop

citytillidie wrote: »

I would rather be on the standard dash until most bugs are sorted

Very few issues on preview, next to zero worth worrying about. Preview has already gone through extensive testing. You are at most 28-31 days ahead of general.

theothernt

Has anyone got the PAL versions of their Xbox 360 games to work on Xbox One yet eg. Perfect Dark Zero or MAss Effect?

Perfect Dark Zero won't install, and yes I am on the Xbox Preview Programme :pac:

CatInABox

MOD NOTE:

The preview discussion thread was getting swamped with preview invites, so I've started a dedicated invite thread.

It's here.

From now on, if you want access to the preview, post your gamer tag in there please!

I'll also be moving some of the recent posts from here into that thread, just to clear things up a little.

Thanks,
CIAB

runawaybishop

theothernt wrote: »

Has anyone got the PAL versions of their Xbox 360 games to work on Xbox One yet eg. Perfect Dark Zero or MAss Effect?

Perfect Dark Zero won't install, and yes I am on the Xbox Preview Programme :pac:

Think my son is currently installing mass effect 1 at home, hasn't said he's ran into any issues yet.

MiskyBoyy

OMG the 360 party works on the emulator! :eek:

and messages and everything. oh how I missed this interface

-Toppy-

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

OMG the 360 party works on the emulator! :eek:

and messages and everything. oh how I missed this interface

You neophobe Misky!

CatInABox

You can vote on which games you'd like Microsoft to release first. Not sure if they've got much say on things, but it's a nice touch.

See here.