Ectofly

Sami23

Anyone using this to prevent maggots or am I better off paying extra for Clic or Cliczin ?
Ectofly good bit cheaper

Green farmer

I use it, it's abit watery compared to clic. However it seems to work alright, the big thing is only has a withdrawal period of about 6 days

Sami23

Another question, will the same applicator gun work on these 3 products say if I bought Ectofly this year and Clic next year

Conmaicne Mara

FYI there's a dedicated sheep forum now, link at the top of the main F&F page

Farrell

Sami23 wrote: »

Another question, will the same applicator gun work on these 3 products say if I bought Ectofly this year and Clic next year

Used it this week too.
Store said ectofly gun is better & just change bottle ( same ste up as auto drencher)

sea12

Farrell wrote: »

Used it this week too.
Store said ectofly gun is better & just change bottle ( same ste up as auto drencher)

I used it this year due to the shorter withdrawal period. I think it was 8 days compared to 50 days. However cover is also shorter so you might have to do the smallest ones twice over summer depending on weather.

metalwood

I use it also. Used to use dysectin (nasty stuff) a lot cheaper than click but exactly 6 week cover. The Olde blowfly is sitting on the fence watching the calender and licking kid lips. The cover timing is fairly accurate

Green farmer

Thank you mods for moving this to the sheep forum!!!

razor8

Seen lambs getting maggots last year after 4 weeks with ectofly, used clik zen this year on lambs away from home for piece of mind, a lot are close to sale

Sami23

Which of the 3 products wud ye advice buying, need to put something on lambs as had 2 with maggots this week ?

Cran

Just got Click for 190, not sure if your man made a mistake as I thought it was 220 some value

Green farmer

Not being smart, but even at €190 a pop it's some money. I know the product works, but For a product that's around for a while I cannt understand why generic versions aren't readily available at a fraction of the price. Are the raw ingredients that go into the product really that expensive to make ?

sea12

Green farmer wrote: »

Not being smart, but even at €190 a pop it's some money. I know the product works, but For a product that's around for a while I cannt understand why generic versions aren't readily available at a fraction of the price. Are the raw ingredients that go into the product really that expensive to make ?

Bought ecofly for 125 does 90 lambs.

arctictree

sea12 wrote: »

Bought ecofly for 125 does 90 lambs.

Just bought Ectofly, 5L, 120 euros. I find that I tend to use too much. It's hard to cover the lamb with one 30ml sweep. End up sometimes using nearly 100ml.

weatherbyfoxer

I use cypergaurd dip mixed in the quad sprayer here . general get up to 3 weeks of cover with just a quick spray on each lamb.It has a14 day withdrawal so everytime in drafting lambs I give ones return in to the field spray going out threw the race.1 liter bottle does me the year

Used veterzin and click before and found the good but pricy

gazahayes

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

I use cypergaurd dip mixed in the quad sprayer here . general get up to 3 weeks of cover with just a quick spray on each lamb.It has a14 day withdrawal so everytime in drafting lambs I give ones return in to the field spray going out threw the race.1 liter bottle does me the year

Used veterzin and click before and found the good but pricy

What rate do you mix that at?

weatherbyfoxer

gazahayes wrote: »

What rate do you mix that at?

1 liter to 500

Lano Lynn

arctictree wrote: »

Just bought Ectofly, 5L, 120 euros. I find that I tend to use too much. It's hard to cover the lamb with one 30ml sweep. End up sometimes using nearly 100ml.

yikes that gets expensive......set your gun to quarter the dose apply in 4 sweeps one each side of the tail, two down the back

rangler1

arctictree wrote: »

Just bought Ectofly, 5L, 120 euros. I find that I tend to use too much. It's hard to cover the lamb with one 30ml sweep. End up sometimes using nearly 100ml.

I do a 15ml stripe down each side, it worked that way last year anyway,
use clik on lambs under 36kg and ectofly on lambs over 36kg
Clik is 75c a lamb and ectofly is over 60c. clik gives over twice the cover

Green farmer

The other thing with ectofly is it can be used post attack. I treated a lamb this evening that had fly strike across her back. I clipped the wool and applied ectofly. The maggots dropped off within about 30 seconds on spraying lamb . I also find blue spray very good as well for treating struck areas. Almacyn spray is what I use.

greysides

The damage done by even mild fly-strike shouldn't be under-estimated. In the abattoir it's easy to see.

The area under the skin is thickened, red and swollen. It requires trimming that usually devalues the carcase and can be quite extensive.

In extreme cases where the area involved is expansive, secondary infection can lead to septicaemia and failure of the carcase to bleed out properly.
It is them totally condemned.

Can't be nice either.

Sami23

Do ye all use the proper applicators for putting on Ectofly and Clic or would ye use a syringe or something else ?

sea12

Sami23 wrote: »

Do ye all use the proper applicators for putting on Ectofly and Clic or would ye use a syringe or something else ?

Yep always use the correct applicator. Not dear and well worth to apply correctly.

arctictree

Anyone know of a product to treat flystrike that comes in a small spray can? Would be handy so I dont have to bring all the gear to treat a small patch on one sheep.

Green farmer

Not specifically for flystrike, but I carry a tin of blue alamycn spray with me. Covers and helps heal the wound and the maggots don't like it, it seems to kill them. I tried cyclo spray as well but found it not to be as good.

arctictree

Green farmer wrote: »

Not specifically for flystrike, but I carry a tin of blue alamycn spray with me. Covers and helps heal the wound and the maggots don't like it, it seems to kill them. I tried cyclo spray as well but found it not to be as good.

Yes, I was in a far field yesterday and had a ewe turned over who was a bit lame. Trimmed her feet and gave her some of the alamycn blue spray. I noticed she had a cut on her chest with some flies on it. Should have given her a spray while I had it in my hand. I'll see how she is next week.

Now that I think about it, her claws were sharp and the cut was in the place where they have their front legs bent in under sometimes.

Green farmer

Is it just me or is this year particularly bad for maggots. They seem to have struck earlier then normal and are more widespread. I've a lowland set up.
Anybody else finding this ?

rangler1

Green farmer wrote: »

Is it just me or is this year particularly bad for maggots. They seem to have struck earlier then normal and are more widespread. I've a lowland set up.
Anybody else finding this ?

For the 70c, is it worth leaving them to get infected

sea12

rangler1 wrote: »

For the 70c, is it worth leaving them to get infected

It is a very warm humid summer so it's ideal for them. Only got one ewe with maggots before shearing. Sheared now so nice and clean. Lambs all done with ecofly. Works well. Don't have the time to be getting them in for maggots so well worth the money.

Nekarsulm

arctictree wrote: »

Anyone know of a product to treat flystrike that comes in a small spray can? Would be handy so I dont have to bring all the gear to treat a small patch on one sheep.

was buying Ectofly yesterday, and noticed an aerosol product for flystrike. Didn't take much notice cause was fixated on the other stuff, but will have a look tomorrow if you like.
This weekend was mental for fly strike here even 4 ewes had a patch just on their back above their shoulder blades, sheared 2 weeks, all sprayed now so some relief for them

arctictree

Nekarsulm wrote: »

was buying Ectofly yesterday, and noticed an aerosol product for flystrike.

Thanks, you might let me know what it was and I'll try to order it online or check in the Vets.

Nekarsulm

rang them there now (Kennedy hardware, Ballyconnell) its called "fly and maggott killer" and made by Nettex and is 9.99

razor8

Nekarsulm wrote: »

rang them there now (Kennedy hardware, Ballyconnell) its called "fly and maggott killer" and made by Nettex and is 9.99

They have a website called agridirect.ie

Nekarsulm

razor8 wrote: »

They have a website called agridirect.ie

Thanks, hadn't realised that. The aerosol stuff not listed on web yet, however.

arctictree

Nekarsulm wrote: »

rang them there now (Kennedy hardware, Ballyconnell) its called "fly and maggott killer" and made by Nettex and is 9.99

This the one?:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fly-Maggot-Killer-Net-Tex-sprays/dp/B007AG7ETC

I wonder why they say you can't use it on livestock?!

Green farmer

A lot of those products are designed for use inside the house , when you've flies going around the kitchen. I can remember them from the 80's before the sticky thing you hang from the ceiling were common.

Nekarsulm

arctictree wrote: »

This the one?:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fly-Maggot-Killer-Net-Tex-sprays/dp/B007AG7ETC

I wonder why they say you can't use it on livestock?!

Perhaps the statement get Amazon around some legal problem?
Of to prevent well meaning people from poisoning their dog or cat?

This is the stuff I saw.

http://www.net-tex.co.uk/animal-health/sheep/insect-fly-repellents/fly-and-maggot-killer-spray

"Net-Tex Fly and Maggot Killer is a powerful, fast acting insecticidal spray formulated to kill most flying and crawling insects. Safe for using in food preparation and livestock, it destroys flies, mosquitoes, blowfly and maggots, etc.
Packaging: 300ml Aerosol
Product code 0603"

Not connected to the agridirect.ie crowd, except as a customer, but their price of 9.99 Euro seems keen compared to the Amazon price of 15 Sterling.

jt65

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Perhaps the statement get Amazon around some legal problem?
Of to prevent well meaning people from poisoning their dog or cat?

This is the stuff I saw.

http://www.net-tex.co.uk/animal-health/sheep/insect-fly-repellents/fly-and-maggot-killer-spray

"Net-Tex Fly and Maggot Killer is a powerful, fast acting insecticidal spray formulated to kill most flying and crawling insects. Safe for using in food preparation and livestock, it destroys flies, mosquitoes, blowfly and maggots, etc.
Packaging: 300ml Aerosol
Product code 0603"

Not connected to the agridirect.ie crowd, except as a customer, but their price of 9.99 Euro seems keen compared to the Amazon price of 15 Sterling.

think the amazon is for 2 cans,

(just speed reading the thread while grubbing so could be wrong)

Nekarsulm

jt65 wrote: »

think the amazon is for 2 cans,

(just speed reading the thread while grubbing so could be wrong)

You are correct! must get the eyes tested!

Farrell

Nekarsulm wrote: »

You are correct! must get the eyes tested!

So once the sheep is infected, instead of soaking with dip, just spray this instead?

Nekarsulm

Farrell wrote: »

So once the sheep is infected, instead of soaking with dip, just spray this instead?

Well I wouldn't trust it that well!

You'd really need to be sure all maggots gone, sometimes only a run of the clippers would reassure you. Then spray. Haven't used that aerosol myself, sprayed with Ectofly.

Sami23

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Well I wouldn't trust it that well!

You'd really need to be sure all maggots gone, sometimes only a run of the clippers would reassure you. Then spray. Haven't used that aerosol myself, sprayed with Ectofly.

Do you find Ectofly as good as Clic ?

Nekarsulm

never used Click.

Sami23

Nekarsulm wrote: »

never used Click.

Does the Ectofly last the full 8 weeks or how long do you usually get out of it

Nekarsulm

i would be paying close attention from 5 weeks onwards. but withdrawal period only 8 days, so you can keep on drafting lambs for sale.

DMAXMAN

Sami23 wrote: »

Does the Ectofly last the full 8 weeks or how long do you usually get out of it

I never was able to get any more than 4 weeks cover from ectofly, and always get at least 7 from clikzin. clikzin has 8 day withdrawal iirc.

Dickie10

very disappointed with ectofly applied 4 weeks ago and getting a fair bit of fly strike goin spraying lambs with watery dip mix every time there in for weighing and going to factory which is at least once a week

eire23

Dickie10 wrote: »

very disappointed with ectofly applied 4 weeks ago and getting a fair bit of fly strike goin spraying lambs with watery dip mix every time there in for weighing and going to factory which is at least once a week

Your not the first one i heard saying that, dipped lambs for a fella today that had used vector and some lambs had maggots after 3 weeks.

1crosseye

are these clean or daggy lambs that are been struck, used ectofly 6wks ago, unsure now if they should be done again but lambs are clean

Dickie10

id say keep an eye out these weren't exactly dirty but all were Suffolk cross.... a change could be on the cards if same next year

drive it

Was going to get Ectofly today I asked what was the difference between this and click , he said the ectofly only works on the wool where it's spread where as the click gets into the blood stream travels all over the body and when the maggot hatch they are put off by the click and won't eat the skin