General Rugby Discussion

conf101

paulie21 wrote: »

Setanta have the Irish rights to the 2019 world cup. 13 games will be free to air including all Ireland and knockout games

That's not properly free to air though, is it? You can't get Setanta - or Eir Sport now - on Saorview. So you need some sort of subscription package to get it.

What rubbish!

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

They have to release matches to proper free to air stations, I think?

The Lost Sheep

conf101 wrote: »

That's not properly free to air though, is it? You can't get Setanta - or Eir Sport now - on Saorview. So you need some sort of subscription package to get it.

What rubbish!

13 games must be free to air so will be on RTE/TV3. All Irelands pool games and all the knock out games will be live on RTE/TV3.
This is the same as several previous world cups

awec

This is pretty awful tbh. Setanta is a mess, their coverage of sport is cheap and generally rubbish.

thomond2006

I really enjoyed Setanta's coverage and highlights packages in 2011. They also broadcast a proper highlights show for the Pro12.

conf101

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

13 games must be free to air so will be on RTE/TV3. All Irelands pool games and all the knock out games will be live on RTE/TV3.
This is the same as several previous world cups

Aha, thanks for the clarification!

former total

Given the choice between Setanta and TV3, I know which one I'd prefer.

And if Eircom put a bit of cash into them over the next three years, it could be good news indeed.

Adbrowne

http://www.balls.ie/rugby/the-latest-british-irish-lions-farce-shows-exactly-why-a-global-calendar-is-needed/339207

global calendar badly required

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Adbrowne wrote: »

http://www.balls.ie/rugby/the-latest-british-irish-lions-farce-shows-exactly-why-a-global-calendar-is-needed/339207

global calendar badly required

Is this not the way it was on the last Lions tour though?

Teferi

Somehow, somewhere, it will turn out to be the Pro 12's fault.

AbusesToilets

How is Setanta still in business? Awful set up.

Teferi

AbusesToilets wrote: »

How is Setanta still in business? Awful set up.

They're not, they've just been bought over by Eir :pac:

salmocab

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Is this not the way it was on the last Lions tour though?

think a few players missed the first game against the Baa Baa's in Japan.

DGRulz

salmocab wrote: »

think a few players missed the first game against the Baa Baa's in Japan.

Yup, all the Leinster and Leicester players were playing their respective league finals the week before.

b.gud

I'm assuming that when they talk about missing the first match they are referring to one of the warm up games against the super rugby teams and not the 1st test against NZ

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

b.gud wrote: »

I'm assuming that when they talk about missing the first match they are referring to one of the warm up games against the super rugby teams and not the 1st test against NZ

Yrah, I think it's a counties representative side or something that they're missing. There's two or three matches before the first test.

b.gud

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Yrah, I think it's a counties representative side or something that they're missing. There's two or three matches before the first test.

Not the end of the world so. It's just click bait articles tryptophan make a big deal out of it

Adbrowne

http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/36763342

thats a pretty scary thing to endure

Adbrowne

http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/36777767

Haskell out for 6 months.

wp_rathead

Adbrowne wrote: »

http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/36777767

Haskell out for 6 months.

shame, he was playing the best rugby I've ever seen him play
was looking forward to seeing him in the Sportsground

molloyjh

Bloody hell....

http://m.ewn.co.za/2016/07/14/Boks-Pollard-in-amputation-scare-after-infection

sydthebeat

http://www.sportinglife.com/rugby-union/news/article/504/10502791/tonga-back-row-forward-viliami-fihaki-joins-edinburgh-from-sale

Adbrowne

molloyjh wrote: »

Bloody hell....

http://m.ewn.co.za/2016/07/14/Boks-Pollard-in-amputation-scare-after-infection

Saw this earlier and first thing that came to mind was SOB. He was in similar situ with shoulder surgerya few years ago

sydthebeat

Two SA players caught doping

http://www.ultimaterugby.com/news/_/461254

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Quade Cooper has signed another new deal, 3 years with the ARU, but he hasn't picked a Super Rugby team yet. Most likely Reds but he's waiting to see what happens with the coaching situation there.

He seems to be able to do whatever he wants and go where ever he wants whenever he wants. Amazing

connachta

Prospective for a Pro12 expansion in Europe (2 Pools of 8)

POOL A

4 IRISH PROVINCES
2 SCOTTISH
2 EASTERNERS (from Georgia/Russia/Roumania)

POOL B

4 WELSH
2 LONDONIANS (London Welsh and or London Scottish and/or L.Irish)
2 ITALIANS

7 HOME GAMES 7 AWAY GAMES 2 JUDGEMENT DAYS for each teams

Judgement days are 2 additional games between the team from a same nation/area
For WELSH AND IRISH teams, the 2 oppositions are decided by draws and take place on neutral ground (Lansdowne+Millenium)

Play off DAY 1 (1st team home)

1) Winner Pool A vs Runner-up Pool B
2) Winner Pool B vs Runner-up Pool A
3) 3rd Pool A vs 6th Pool B
4) 3rd Pool B vs 6th Pool A
5) 4th Pool A vs 5th Pool B
6) 4th Pool B vs 5th Pool A

Play Off Day 2 (Neutral Grounds)

7) FINAL - Winner match 1 vs Winner match 2
8 ) First European Qualification game : Winner match 3 vs Winner match 6
9) Second European Qualification game : Winner match 4 vs Winner match 5

16 to 18 games a year, teams fresh for Europe and International Rugby
8 interpros in Ireland and Wales - 4 Derbies in London, Eastearn Europe, Italy, and Scotland (At least, could be 1 more in the last play off day)
+ Welsh teams satisfied to play against English teams

jacothelad

connachta wrote: »

Prospective for a Pro12 expansion in Europe (2 Pools of 8)

POOL A

4 IRISH PROVINCES
2 SCOTTISH
2 EASTERNERS (from Georgia/Russia/Roumania)

POOL B

4 WELSH
2 LONDONIANS (London Welsh and or London Scottish and/or L.Irish)
2 ITALIANS

7 HOME GAMES 7 AWAY GAMES 2 JUDGEMENT DAYS for each teams

Judgement days are 2 additional games between the team from a same nation/area
For WELSH AND IRISH teams, the 2 oppositions are decided by draws and take place on neutral ground (Lansdowne+Millenium)

Play off DAY 1 (1st team home)

1) Winner Pool A vs Runner-up Pool B
2) Winner Pool B vs Runner-up Pool A
3) 3rd Pool A vs 6th Pool B
4) 3rd Pool B vs 6th Pool A
5) 4th Pool A vs 5th Pool B
6) 4th Pool B vs 5th Pool A

Play Off Day 2 (Neutral Grounds)

7) FINAL - Winner match 1 vs Winner match 2
8 ) First European Qualification game : Winner match 3 vs Winner match 6
9) Second European Qualification game : Winner match 4 vs Winner match 5

16 to 18 games a year, teams fresh for Europe and International Rugby
8 interpros in Ireland and Wales - 4 Derbies in London, Eastearn Europe, Italy, and Scotland (At least, could be 1 more in the last play off day)
+ Welsh teams satisfied to play against English teams

The Aviva is not 'neutral' territory as it is basically a home game for Leinster and teams would be losing a fortune by giving up their home games which would be sellouts. Handy for those who live in Leinster but not so much for those in other parts of the island. Also trips to the ar5ehole of nowhere in Russia would be a) really crap and expensive for the teams and useless for the fans.

thomond2006

jacothelad wrote: »

The Aviva is not 'neutral' territory as it is basically a home game for Leinster and teams would be losing a fortune by giving up their home games which would be sellouts. Handy for those who live in Leinster but not so much for those in other parts of the island. Also trips to the ar5ehole of nowhere in Russia would be a) really crap and expensive for the teams and useless for the fans.

Judgement Days would have to be moved around each year to different provinces. Easily done if you rent non-rugby grounds.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Georgian player Merab Kvirikashvili has apparently been seriously injured in a car accident along with his wife.


https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/756202365548634112

icdg

I think in the end any expansion of the Pro 12 will stay well clear of England. Too many governance problems - these are teams after all that are under the RFU's jurisdiction. What happens, for example, if (don't laugh - yes I am aware of the extraordinary feat London Welsh "accomplished" of finishing a top flight season with zero wins) the London teams, after some private investment, starting to finish in the European Cup qualification places regularly? Could that mean extra spaces for England over and above the six/seven they get already? What would that do to the already limited qualification prospects of the Celtic nations? There's too many issues.