30% of Irish People think Jews should shut up about the holocaust

annascott

Only 30%? The others were probably so sick of hearing about it yet again, that they refused to take the survey... (yawn)


http://www.thejournal.ie/global-jewish-survey-1472446-May2014/

The King of Moo

How many Irish people even know any Jews?

ChunkyLover_53

30% of Jews think the Irish should shut up about Keane & McCarthy

Galwayguy35

The only Jew I know of is Shatter.

pO1Neil

annascott wrote: »

Only 30%? The others were probably so sick of hearing about it yet again, that they refused to take the survey... (yawn)


http://www.thejournal.ie/global-jewish-survey-1472446-May2014/

Only? You think people should shut up about the holocaust?

c_man

Oh it's the ADL that say that? Yeah, how surprising :pac:

ChunkyLover_53

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

The only Jew I know of is Shatter.

Woody Allen? Mel Brooks? Jesus? seriously there are millions
Oy Vey!

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Anne Frankly I agree with them.

Andy-Pandy

I've a couple of Jewish friends, they are exactly the same as my other friends, they couldn't give a sh1te about religion.

c_man

ChunkyLover_53 wrote: »

Woody Allen? Mel Brooks? Jesus? seriously there are millions
Oi Vey!

Jerry Seinfeld, Larry David, Rodney Dangerfield, the Marx brothers etc etc. Millions is right. I'd say Israel must be the funniest place on the planet.

Hotale.com

Wtf? I am actually seriously disappointed by this.

Probably the biggest act of human destruction and moral decline in human history and people want Jews to forget about it.

If the Brits said the same thing about Bloody Sunday we'd all be sh*tting ourselves.

Nodin

annascott wrote: »

Only 30%? The others were probably so sick of hearing about it yet again, that they refused to take the survey... (yawn)


http://www.thejournal.ie/global-jewish-survey-1472446-May2014/

The ADL - an organisation with a noble aim, subverted by assholes.

Taxburden carrier

Kyle Broflovski

Galwayguy35

ChunkyLover_53 wrote: »

Woody Allen? Mel Brooks? Jesus? seriously there are millions
Oy Vey!

Read the thread title Sparky, it's related to Ireland.

annascott

pO1Neil wrote: »

Only? You think people should shut up about the holocaust?

I'm with Kate...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEnjiGwVw6o

Muise...

Cavalier use of the Holocaust by the Simon Wisenthal Centre to launch a baseless attack on the Hunt Museum in Limerick, and by the Israeli American Council to attack Mary Robinson's conduct in trying to keep the peace at a UN conference in Durban some years ago may have coloured some Irish views on Holocaust rhetoric from certain quarters. Spectacular own goals there.

pO1Neil

c_man wrote: »

Oh it's the ADL that say that? Yeah, how surprising :pac:

Just noticed that as well. The survey has just become void. I was surprised to see 30% as I've never noticed any ant-Semitics in Ireland. Unless they consider criticism of Israel to be anti-Semitic which of course the ADL does.

Wazdakka

Duracell Bunny wrote: »

Anne Frankly I agree with them.

That's gas.

Lucifer MorningStar

30% of Jews think the Irish should shut up about a united Ireland

hjkl

pO1Neil wrote: »

Just noticed that as well. The survey has just become void. I was surprised to see 30% as I've never noticed any ant-Semitics in Ireland. Unless they consider criticism of Israel to be anti-Semitic which of course the ADL does.

How can you even be anti-semitic in Ireland? There must about 5 jews in the whole country.

Seaneh

The King of Moo wrote: »

How many Irish people even know any Jews?

My first thought at the thread title. There are approx 1000 Jewish residents of our little country according to the last census and most of them life within about half an hour of Portobello.

mad muffin

Another person starts up a thread with a link to the Journal and I'll start fücking punching baby seals!! :mad:

No I don't want to use your fücking app. If I wanted to use your fücking app it would already be installed.

Just let me follow the fücking link in my web browser. :mad:

Renegade Mechanic

Duracell Bunny wrote: »

Anne Frankly I agree with them.

Too soon:D

Muise...

pO1Neil wrote: »

Just noticed that as well. The survey has just become void. I was surprised to see 30% as I've never noticed any ant-Semitics in Ireland. Unless they consider criticism of Israel to be anti-Semitic which of course the ADL does.

Unfortunately, some members of pro-Palestinian movements in Ireland - though not the leadership - don't make that sensible distinction either.

Amalgam

Hotale.com wrote: »

Wtf? I am actually seriously disappointed by this.

Probably the biggest act of human destruction and moral decline in human history and people want Jews to forget about it.

If the Brits said the same thing about Bloody Sunday we'd all be sh*tting ourselves.

Some of the 'purges' in Asian countries, surpass the Holocaust, numerically, as far as I am aware.

I went to a secondary school with a Jewish community, here in Dublin.

The 'gentiles' (myself included), had classical studies in the loft, while Hebrew studies took place.

Dr Turk Turkelton

Lucifer MorningStar wrote: »

30% of Jews think the Irish should shut up about a united Ireland

Ah here where are we living if we are not allowed discuss these things-it's just like Nazi Germany...




I'll get my shirt.

Seaneh

I'd like to say this. Zionists (and right wing israeli nationalists) have misappropriated the holocaust and use it to hide behind and beat down anyone challenges their bigoted views. Jewish people in general do not do this.

Not every Jew is a Zionist and not every Zionist is a Jew.

AndonHandon

I'd rather people got over Hillsborough.

Lawrence1895

...and Israel as a political state has nothing to do with Judaism as a religion, but most of the hatred comes out of mere political reasons, I would say.

Now, since I am a German, I could easily be shot, by accusing Israel of some sort of genocide on Palestine territory, so I better be quiet :rolleyes:

FouxDaFaFa

I don't dislike Jewish people but I dislike the ADL. They play nasty and a lot of the time it seriously seems like they are conjuring up anti-semitism where there is none.

They're too powerful (in the States) and people are scared to challenge their tactics for fear of being seen as anti-semitic.

And when you do, you get lumped in with some very "interesting" people. The kind of people who believe David Icke's lizards theory as fact rather than some well-crafted analogy.

Jonny7

Seaneh wrote: »

I'd like to say this. Zionists (and right wing israeli nationalists) have misappropriated the holocaust and use it to hide behind and beat down anyone challenges their bigoted views. Jewish people in general do not do this.

Not every Jew is a Zionist and not every Zionist is a Jew.

What's the difference between a zionist and a right wing Israeli nationalist?

Frank Lee Midere

Hotale.com wrote: »

Wtf? I am actually seriously disappointed by this.

Probably the biggest act of human destruction and moral decline in human history and people want Jews to forget about it.

If the Brits said the same thing about Bloody Sunday we'd all be sh*tting ourselves.

If the Brits said the same about the famine they would have to know about the famine.

Or Bloody Sunday.

Jonny7

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

The kind of people who believe David Icke's lizards theory as fact rather than some well-crafted analogy.

Here we go..

Frank Lee Midere

mad muffin wrote: »

Another person starts up a thread with a link to the Journal and I'll start fücking punching baby seals!! :mad:

No I don't want to use your fücking app. If I wanted to use your fücking app it would already be installed.

Just let me follow the fücking link in my web browser. :mad:

Yeah. I often prefer apps. But not for casual reading. I mean surely they are losing links and revenue.

Seaneh

Jonny7 wrote: »

What's the difference between a zionist and a right wing Israeli nationalist?

There are Zionists who are neither Israeli nor Jewish (google "Christian Zionism").

Jonny7

Seaneh wrote: »

There are Zionists who are neither Israeli nor Jewish (google "Christian Zionism").

what's the difference between Israeli hardliners and Israeli zionists?

Seaneh

Jonny7 wrote: »

what's the difference between Israeli hardliners and Israeli zionists?

One is a bigotry driven by religious ideology and one is bigotry driven by nationalism.

Sacksian

Seaneh wrote: »

I'd like to say this. Zionists (and right wing israeli nationalists) have misappropriated the holocaust and use it to hide behind and beat down anyone challenges their bigoted views. Jewish people in general do not do this.

Not every Jew is a Zionist and not every Zionist is a Jew.

It is also true that many anti-semites have misappropriated legitimate criticism of Israeli foreign policy, called it anti-Zionism, and use it to hide behind their bigoted views.

It's not hard to spot.

Seaneh

Sacksian wrote: »

It is also true that many anti-semites have misappropriated legitimate criticism of Israeli foreign policy, called it anti-Zionism, and use it to hide behind their bigoted views.

It's not hard to spot.

I'm sure this is true but I don't see what that has to do with this topic.

Maphisto

Hotale.com wrote: »

Wtf? I am actually seriously disappointed by this.

Probably the biggest act of human destruction and moral decline in human history and people want Jews to forget about it.

If the Brits said the same thing about Bloody Sunday we'd all be sh*tting ourselves.

I agree, but I always have my doubts about any of these surveys. For a start they never ask me or anyone I know.

In this case though ADL interviewed 53000 people in 102 countries that averages out at 520 per country. Such a sample wouldn't even be worthwhile in Galway let alone a larger city or the whole country.

So attention grabbing headline but same old bollox.

Karl Stein

Jonny7 wrote: »

What's the difference between a zionist and a right wing Israeli nationalist?

Not much when it comes to the actions of the Israeli state.

biko

There are less than 2000 jews in Ireland. So 30% of Irish people think these jews are talking too much about the Holocaust?

shruikan2553

30% of people are talking out of there ass, although seeing the group involved the questions were probably worded in a way to suit them

Sacksian

Seaneh wrote: »

I'm sure this is true but I don't see what that has to do with this topic.

Well, the topic in the OP is an article from The Journal.

I'm not sure if you read it, but it's a report of the findings of a worldwide report on anti-semitism, so my comment about anti-semites is pretty relevant to the topic.

Seaneh

Sacksian wrote: »

Well, the topic in the OP is an article from The Journal.

I'm not sure if you read it, but it's a report of the findings of a worldwide report on anti-semitism, so my comment about anti-semites is pretty relevant to the topic.

A world wide report on anything by a group of racist mouth breathing bigots like the ADL doesn't really amount to a crock of **** though. So who cares?

RobertKK

The holocaust shouldn't be forgotten and if people are feeling apathetic towards Europe, they should think of the holocaust and why we should work together as one rather than apart.
The European Union exists because of WW2 and how we should never let division allow horrific events to take place in Europe.
The holocaust should never be forgotten and it is when people stop talking about it that we should start to worry.
The memory and knowing what caused the holocaust offers us a way to think of how horrific some humans can act and how we must work to stop ever getting to a point where that situation could happen again.
We don't want a repeat of history.

Frank Lee Midere

Maphisto wrote: »

I agree, but I always have my doubts about any of these surveys. For a start they never ask me or anyone I know.

In this case though ADL interviewed 53000 people in 102 countries that averages out at 520 per country. Such a sample wouldn't even be worthwhile in Galway let alone a larger city or the whole country.

So attention grabbing headline but same old bollox.

No. 520 is legitimate in Galway and India.

Maid of the Mist

Not surprising. Ireland has always been a cold house for the Jews.

Frank Lee Midere

biko wrote: »

There are less than 2000 jews in Ireland. So 30% of Irish people think these jews are talking too much about the Holocaust?

I doubt if people in Ireland who were interviewed meant Irish Jews talked too much about the holicaust. That wasn't the question.

Amirani

If they're using the Holocaust as a justification for Israel's illegal settlements, then yes, they should shut up about it.

Apart from that though, the Holocaust has to be remembered. It's one of the most significant atrocities in human history. Using it to justify illegal Israeli actions isn't appropriate.

Maphisto

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

No. 520 is legitimate in Galway and India.

I don't understand the point you are making. Was it supposed to be a joke?