''Shocking'' racist message on n7

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Even if the Irish do become a "minority" in Ireland I can never see it happening in rural Ireland. Seems to be no immigrants moving to rural parts.

Karl Stein

Shocking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exyW-vmVnQo

Gatling

We've 500,000 + non nationals living here
Which came an increase of 143% in just 9 years.pre 2012.
Covering some 200 different nationalities.

How Soon Is Now

folan wrote: »

how? the irish have moved across the globe and kept their culture and history alive. just as anyone who comes to this country brings their own culture and history with them. It doesn't damage the country, it makes it better.

So ten years or so down the line what will Ireland be like when big sections of our ''Irish'' population will come from foreign familys.

For example look at the size of the Indian population in England not saying its a bad thing but imagine Ireland down the line with say a Polish influence like that.

bb1234567

Hotale.com wrote: »

Even if the Irish do become a "minority" in Ireland I can never see it happening in rural Ireland. Seems to be no immigrants moving to rural parts.

Low birth rates in rural areas though, all the young people migrate to urban areas

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Gatling wrote: »

We've 500,000 + non nationals living here
Which came an increase of 143% in just 9 years.pre 2012.
Covering some 200 different nationalities.

We needed workers.

How Soon Is Now

Hotale.com wrote: »

Even if the Irish do become a "minority" in Ireland I can never see it happening in rural Ireland. Seems to be no immigrants moving to rural parts.

Which tells u no one wants to live there by choice :P.

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How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Which tells u no one wants to live there by choice :P.

Now you're disrespecting Irish culture?

The Irish were always based in rural communities up to about the 60s.

Bloe Joggs

Definitely not shocking by any stretch of the imagination. Just a manifestation of the undercurrent of hardcore nationalism that's always existed here. It was very apparent in 1969 with the IRA/Sinn Fein left-right split and nothing has changed.

Hitchens

Hotale.com wrote: »

Even if the Irish do become a "minority" in Ireland I can never see it happening in rural Ireland. Seems to be no immigrants moving to rural parts.

you vill take zat back, you schvine!

folan

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

So ten years or so down the line what will Ireland be like when big sections of our ''Irish'' population will come from foreign familys.

For example look at the size of the Indian population in England not saying its a bad thing but imagine Ireland down the line with say a Polish influence like that.

so its not a bad thing? or its not bad in England but it is in Ireland? Has England become less English?

the polish influence has been great here, they have introduced some of my favorite culinary delights and we have shared stories of our ancestry. Poland is an amazing place and their people are great! Also the Chinese, Japanese, Brazilians among others.

bb1234567

Bloe Joggs wrote: »

Definitely not shocking by any stretch of the imagination. Just a manifestation of the undercurrent of hardcore nationalism that's always existed here. It was very apparent in 1969 with the IRA/Sinn Fein left-right split and nothing has changed.

Obviously the racist element isnt good but I always admired the irish patriotism...

kunst nugget

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

So ten years or so down the line what will Ireland be like when big sections of our ''Irish'' population will come from foreign familys.

We will most likely have some people with dual passports. The horror! I'm feeling quite queasy thinking about it.

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

For example look at the size of the Indian population in England not saying its a bad thing but imagine Ireland down the line with say a Polish influence like that.

I trying to think would the nightmarish implications are here… we'd all go sterile from drinking vodka?

KungPao

So in coming decades will Ireland be like the USA and the population will be called stuff like Seamus Zalinkski, LeBron Murphy and Pedro O'Reilly Sanchez?

Either way, it will give our gene pool a much needed shot in the arm. We can't just keep riding each other for ever and not expect to become mutants.

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folan wrote: »

so its not a bad thing? or its not bad in England but it is in Ireland? Has England become less English?

the polish influence has been great here, they have introduced some of my favorite culinary delights and we have shared stories of our ancestry. Poland is an amazing place and their people are great! Also the Chinese, Japanese, Brazilians among others.

At least the Brazilians might make our football team better :pac:

On a serious note, if some unbelievable immigrant footballer came to prominence and played for the Irish team it could really change everyone's attitude. Which is actually quite sad and shows how shallow some people are.

bb1234567

folan wrote: »

so its not a bad thing? or its not bad in England but it is in Ireland? Has England become less English?

the polish influence has been great here, they have introduced some of my favorite culinary delights and we have shared stories of our ancestry. Poland is an amazing place and their people are great! Also the Chinese, Japanese, Brazilians among others.

I think he means if we got quite as many immigrants as the UK do it wouldnt work well here. Which it wouldnt, we simply couldnt fit that many immigrants here

How Soon Is Now

Hotale.com wrote: »

Now you're disrespecting Irish culture?

The Irish were always based in rural communities up to about the 60s.

Be real here and never mind Irish culture if u gave most people a choice they wouldnt be living down in the back of no where. Its only natural your going to mostly want to live where theres plenty to do and plenty of options at hand.

bb1234567

Hotale.com wrote: »

At least the Brazilians might make our football team better :pac:

On a serious note, if some unbelievable immigrant footballer came to prominence and played for the Irish team it could really change everyone's attitude. Which is actually quite sad and shows how shallow some people are.

Hmm plenty of great foreign rugby players but it didnt really seem to change people's attitudes

folan

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Be real here and never mind Irish culture if u gave most people a choice they wouldnt be living down in the back of no where. Its only natural your going to mostly want to live where theres plenty to do and plenty of options at hand.

unless you love isolation and being right all the time.




actually, i might just be onto something

cletus van damme

Lux23 wrote: »

I always find it hilarious when things like this turn up and pedants try to defend it because 'it is not technically racist'. So what is then? Xenophobia, social commentary? One poster says it's an argument? But what kind of argument it it?

it may have racist leanings but it's a question that could mean anything.
people are quick to jump on the racist bandwagon.
I don't know if it's racist and only the person who wrote it really knows.
It could refer to many things - the government or trokia ruining ireland for example.

I don't understand why people get so shocked about this stuff? If it is racist, it's not a common view.
There will always be disenfranchised and loony people about. Why cry about it as if it's the ruination of irish society?

Irish Halo

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

For example look at the size of the Indian population in England not saying its a bad thing but imagine Ireland down the line with say a Polish influence like that.

The highlighted text, WTF? You're not saying it's a bad thing but you are implying it is?

And on more Polish influence, maybe they'll speak better Irish than us?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRoHfQ8cJPs

I hope the tone of some posters on AH is not indicative of Ireland, if they cannot see something wrong with groups spraying graffiti that is clearly trying to stir up some populist "furriners are ruining the country, Ireland for the Irish" sentiment I don't recognise the country I grew up in and maybe I will "feel like a tourist at times in Dublin city center (sic)"

How Soon Is Now

folan wrote: »

unless you love isolation and being right all the time.




actually, i might just be onto something

More Morrissey related gick ?

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bb1234567 wrote: »

Hmm plenty of great foreign rugby players but it didnt really seem to change people's attitudes

I don't want to stereotype but the scumbag type who are racist *usually* don't follow rugby. It's primarily an upper class sport, and they usually wouldn't cause a multicultural kerfuffle. :P

endacl

The One Doctor wrote: »

It's impressive that they only spray it on temporary walls. Very considerate. It's all spelled correctly too.

Conclusion - it's DDI.

Except for the last one. Standards are slipping all over...

kunst nugget

Hotale.com wrote: »

I don't want to stereotype but the scumbag type who are racist *usually* don't follow rugby. It's primarily an upper class sport, and they usually wouldn't cause a multicultural kerfuffle. :P

Philip Babb? Paul McGrath?

KungPao

Hotale.com wrote: »

At least the Brazilians might make our football team better :pac:

I don't think I ever seen a Brazilian with a kid here though I think they just work, do a bit of study, and party here...no settling down for a family.

I've been hearing that argument about immigants making our football team better since the 90s...any coming through?

Knasher

Cultures change over time. And considering what Ireland was like, say, 40 years ago, that is no bad thing. When exactly was this golden age of Ireland that people are worried about loosing?

Muise...

Tabnabs wrote: »

I think it may be a stylised St Bridgits cross. It's common enough for neo-nazi and supremacist groups to hijack ancient cultural and religious symbols for their own identity and propaganda.

St. Bridget of Existential Xenophobia.

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KungPao wrote: »

I don't think I ever seen a Brazilian with a kid here though I think they just work, do a bit of study, and party here...no settling down for a family.

I've been hearing that argument about immigants making our football team better since the 90s...any coming through?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Morrison

It wasn't me!

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Because Ireland as a hold is tiny compared to Britain there a nation filled with history that spreads the globe threw out time where well Ireland :pac:.

So basically if this country continues on the path its on we will lose who and what we are as a country and as people.

No, we won't. The history won't change, and most history is forgotten pretty immediately anyway, if it ever was well known in the first place. Things change, and the history that's made and remembered in the future is the responsibility of those living now, not the preservation of other people's histories. Personally, I want to see a future history built on tolerance and welcomes to all who look for a better life. There's no point in bemoaning the notion that your culture or identity is being diluted when you're the very product of innumerable historical cultural minglings, with parts of each lost and forgotten at every turn and others brought forward. That's history, fluid and ephemeral. Worry more about what the history of the future says about you than how you feel about the past.