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Tragic yet worrying scenes in waterford last night

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    #182
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 18,132 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Would you agree if I said that this guy didn't deserve to die for what he and his friends were allegedly doing?

    I would not have executed this man for his actions, no.


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    #183
    lighterman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    None of us can prove anything. If you think the media are making all of this up, why did you open the thread with a link to a media article?

    Please look at the context I posted that statement.Thanks


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    #184
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,148 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Zulu wrote: »
    Oh right, argument fails, and now you're looking for something to be appalled at, is it?

    Now that is pathetic!

    Wait, my argument hasn't failed at all. I merely asked a question.

    Out of interest, same question to you!


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    #185
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Right though I shouldn't have to I'll explain this very simply.

    Onto the main page of the site I see an article about this incident in Dungarvan which I read about this morning being described as a "tragedy". I came here in wonder how this was the case.

    Because I questioned the title doesn't mean I care, I still don't,

    Understand chief?
    This wasnt aimed at you - you didnt say you were indifferent, its clear you are enjoying yourself. You looking forward to the next death so you can come back and tell the internet how you dont care?


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    #186
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    drumswan wrote: »
    This wasnt aimed at you - you didnt say you were indifferent, its clear you are enjoying yourself. You looking forward to the next death so you can come back and tell the internet how you dont care?

    For someone so out raged by the speculation in this thread, the irony in this post is amazing


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    #187
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,148 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    For someone so out raged by the speculation in this thread, the irony in this post is amazing
    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Same question to you Doctor. You seem to be taking the most pleasure so i'll ask you.

    Would you agree if I said that this guy didn't deserve to die for what he and his friends were allegedly doing?

    Hi Doctor.

    I'm intereste din what your answer to this would be, if you'd like to answer? :)


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    #188
    Nino Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    drumswan wrote: »
    This wasnt aimed at you - you didnt say you were indifferent, its clear you are enjoying yourself. You looking forward to the next death so you can come back and tell the internet how you dont care?

    This is a broader discussion than the death of this man, there was a Garda attacked, in his own home by a gang of criminals.
    If you don't think I should be in the thread, report it, but as long as I'm here I will continue to discuss my feelings, be they anger, joy, or indifference.


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    #189
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    For someone so out raged by the speculation in this thread, the irony in this post is amazing
    Im not outraged Doctor, I just think the keyboard warrior stuff is pathetic. Its a reflection of the same sort of bleating posters who spend their days whining about how afraid they are of teenagers wearing tracksuit bottoms in the city, cowering on the end of their internet connections cheering for a victory for the "good guys". Baaaa!


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    #190
    Octavianus
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭Octavianus


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Please put forward a version of events that would be more plausible at this moment in time

    Anything could have happened. I don't know and it's very clear you don't.
    He might have been there to terrorise and cause trouble along with his mates and probably was but we don't know.
    You've already judged this guy and deemed him guilty without any evidence whatsoever. That's extremely ignorant and small minded.


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    #191
    lighterman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    This is a broader discussion than the death of this man, there was a Garda attacked, in his own home by a gang of criminals.
    If you don't think I should be in the thread, report it, but as long as I'm here I will continue to discuss my feelings, be they anger, joy, or indifference.

    A gang of criminals.Your not dramatizing it much or anything are ya.


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    #192
    Nino Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    Octavianus wrote: »
    Anything could have happened. I don't know and it's very clear you don't.
    He might have been there to terrorise and cause trouble along with his mates and probably was but we don't know.
    You've already judged this guy and deemed him guilty without any evidence whatsoever. That's extremely ignorant and small minded.

    The fact that he was in a such a hurry to get over a fence that he managed to kill himself would suggest that he thought he was guilty too.


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    #193
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    This is a broader discussion than the death of this man, there was a Garda attacked, in his own home by a gang of criminals.
    If you don't think I should be in the thread, report it, but as long as I'm here I will continue to discuss my feelings, be they anger, joy, or indifference.

    He wasnt in his home, he was outside, he went out to confront the yobs according to RTE. Breaking news are claiming it was a coincidence that they were there and that the house was a Gardas. One of the blokes was killed while fleeing, things are a million miles from the black and white picture you are dying to accept.


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    #194
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Hi Doctor.

    I'm intereste din what your answer to this would be, if you'd like to answer? :)

    Hello Mr. Stuffins, finally a direct question in between the s***e the rest are spouting.

    Did he deserve to die? - No, not for that. Though I do believe it is justified for serious crimes.

    Do I care he died - No, not at all.

    Do I care that someones home was attached in the middle of the night - Yes very much so.

    Am I getting "pleasure" from this - No, see how I feel about caring he died.


    Does that answer your question Mr. Stuffins?


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    #195
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,148 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Hello Mr. Stuffins, finally a direct question in between the s***e the rest are spouting.

    Did he deserve to die? - No, not for that. Though I do believe it is justified for serious crimes.

    Do I care he died - No, not at all.

    Do I care that someones home was attached in the middle of the night - Yes very much so.

    Am I getting "pleasure" from this - No, see how I feel about caring he died.


    Does that answer your question Mr. Stuffins?

    It does indeed The Doctor. Thank you


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    #196
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,148 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    The fact that he was in a such a hurry to get over a fence that he managed to kill himself would suggest that he thought he was guilty too.

    I just face-palmed so hard I think I ruptured my eye socket!


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    #197
    Little CuChulainn
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I just face-palmed so hard I think I ruptured my eye socket!

    As long as you don't try to blame the Gardaí somehow, you have my sympathy.


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    #198
    Nino Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    lighterman wrote: »
    A gang of criminals.Your not dramatizing it much or anything are ya.

    Just based on what they were doing last night, they are criminals, violent criminals. But lets wait and see what comes out in the next few days, I guarantee you this won't have been their first time!


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    #199
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I just face-palmed so hard I think I ruptured my eye socket!

    Self inflicted. No sympathy


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    #200
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    As long as you don't try to blame the Gardaí somehow, you have my sympathy.
    Do you think its worth investigating the chaps death?


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    Octavianus
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭Octavianus


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    The fact that he was in a such a hurry to get over a fence that he managed to kill himself would suggest that he thought he was guilty too.

    It suggests he was worried about being caught, not that he did anything.
    Again, he probably did but the fact that he ran does not prove he was guilty of anything.

    The first reports of this story suggested that the house was targeted because a member of the Gardai lived there but we now know that isn't true


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    #202
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    drumswan wrote: »
    Do you think its worth investigating the chaps death?

    Every death has to be investigated. What sort of a question is that


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    #203
    lighterman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Self inflicted. No sympathy

    Your very opinionated for a young lad


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    #204
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Octavianus wrote: »
    It suggests he was worried about being caught, not that he did anything.
    Again, he probably did but the fact that he ran does not prove he was guilty of anything.

    The first reports of this story suggested that the house was targeted because a member of the Gardai lived there but we now know that isn't true


    To me I dont see any difference if they were outside a civilians house, glassed the occupant and ran and one of them died.


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    #205
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    lighterman wrote: »
    Your very opinionated for a young lad

    Why thank you, I hate people who just follow the crowd


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    #206
    Octavianus
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭Octavianus


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    To me I dont see any difference if they were outside a civilians house, glassed the occupant and ran and one of them died.

    I think you missed the point


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    #207
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Every death has to be investigated. What sort of a question is that

    Well its hard to know with you Daily Mail types where you'll draw the line


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    #208
    lighterman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    To me I dont see any difference if they were outside a civilians house, glassed the occupant and ran and one of them died.

    There is a difference between glassing someone and throwing something which happened to be a bottle


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    #209
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    drumswan wrote: »
    Well its hard to know with you Daily Mail types where you'll draw the line

    Whats a Daily Mail type? It's not one I read


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    #210
    Nino Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    drumswan wrote: »
    Well its hard to know with you Daily Mail types where you'll draw the line

    What's with the daily mail references? I don't get it.


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    #211
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    I do, if they have anything worth while to challenge on. So far all I've heard is circle jerking blah blah blah, high horse blah blah

    And the rest you've conveniently filtered out.


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