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We're the fattest in Europe and going to stay that way.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭bardcom


    And what to blame? According to this article, its the unregulated liberal free market. Really.

    I call bullsh*t.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    More propaganda from the elites! They just want to turn us all into robot-soldiers for the coming mega-war!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    So, I have about 15 years before I need to go on a diet? Sound!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭MonstaMash




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    I knew we would be good at something. C'mon Ireland.


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ George Hallowed Chip


    In reviewing the results, she said: “Our study presents a worrying picture of rising obesity across Europe. Policies to reverse this trend are urgently needed.”
    Read more at http://scienceblog.com/72312/most-europeans-to-be-fatties-by-2030/#lmZkyZBq9e0Zp7E5.99



    Stop telling people to eat more pasta so....


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    More studies, more funding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭OneArt


    F*cking bread and pasta... I don't understand how more Germans aren't fat. You can't walk more than a few meters down the road before encountering a pizzeria or a bakery. I swear, half the restaurants here just serve bread or pasta with sauce on them...

    Foodwise, Ireland is excellent for its vegan/vegetarian foods, massive selection and careful consideration of those who want gluten-free food.

    I've also developed a deep hatred of pizzerias and Italian food. So sick of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    What's wrong with bread and pasta?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    bardcom wrote: »
    And what to blame? According to this article, its the unregulated liberal free market. Really.

    I call bullsh*t.

    I agree with you, their wording could be better, unregulated in specific key areas, salt and sugar being two issues that politicians seem slow to pick up on. All fine and dandy, 'giving advice', but the way food is processed, the industry seem to be taking the piss and happy to reap profits, at the expense of your health. I remember reading about a large muffin from a certain supermarket (..with a letter 'T'), containing over 2g of salt. That's either negligent or malicious intent. Have a look at the wrappers of various pies and pastries from the same retailer.. not very good for you.

    Goes off in some many areas, education seems to be a thing, obesity is often a marker for umm.. socio economic groups. There seems to be a big problem among women, at a certain income level. The 'pillow belly'..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    Not surprised to hear the Irish are among the greediest in Europe. There is a severe problem with material greed in Irish Society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    catallus wrote: »
    What's wrong with bread and pasta?!

    It makes people who have never done a days work in their lives bitter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    We are also an extremely productive and hard working workforce. ..this leads to snacking and an over reliance on convenience foods...where as our euopean cousins work max 8 hours per day with long lunch breaks and then have hours to cook long sensual meals...irish see food in two ways: fuel and soakage, not as an integral part of family and cultural life.
    Eating garlic cheesy chips or the likes more than a couple times a year is also a mistake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    ryan101 wrote: »
    Not surprised to hear the Irish are among the greediest in Europe

    Eh, the report was on obesity, not greed :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭con___manx1


    oz is the second fattest nation in the world after the USA. i don't think we are near as bad as them. when i went to the usa i crossed the border from Canada the first thing i saw was a massively fat cop on border control : ).in the outback in oz there are so many obese people its ridiculous. Ireland is getting worse tho. the fast food industry isnt suffering in the recession too much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    It makes people who have never done a days work in their lives bitter.

    That just confuses me even more than I am already confused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Taxburden carrier


    Ipso fatso !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    http://scienceblog.com/72312/most-europeans-to-be-fatties-by-2030/

    So apparently we're the fattest in Europe and by 2030 84% of women and 90% of men are projected to be overweight or obese. Can I use this as evidence in future when I say that we Irish aren't a very attractive bunch? :P

    Shesh.

    91% of people know that 4/5 statistics are just made up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    catallus wrote: »
    That just confuses me even more than I am already confused.

    Glad to be of help. :)

    There's nothing wrong with bread and pasta, there's nothing 'wrong' with any food. Even fresh air is bad for you if you swallow too much of it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,792 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    I'm not worried. Obesity should be wiped out by then. Surely a tablet or other treatment will be developed to fight obesity.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    When I read about studies like this the first thing that pops into my head is always



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ringadingding


    Every western nation is the " fattest in the world" depending on which newspaper you read

    Everywhere I've travelled to has fat people, and twice as many convenience foods as decent home-made foods.

    Too much artificial foods masquerading as natural and healthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    You know, I really hate those ads that show the children turning from skinny to tubby.

    What a great way to build up a child's self esteem and inspire good parenting. :mad:

    Just thought I'd mention it here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Even fresh air is bad for you if you swallow too much of it though.

    Yeah right hahahahah like people go around swallowing air! hahaha! Look at this guy! Swallowing air like!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    How about instead of paying for another study we make gym memberships tax-free or tax deductible?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    syklops wrote: »
    How about instead of paying for another study we make gym memberships tax-free or tax deductible?

    What have gimes got to do with obesity; some of the fattest people I've ever seen were in there!

    If you want to lose weight you stop eating, simple as that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    catallus wrote: »
    What's wrong with bread and pasta?!

    Very little.

    Its the latest fad thing to believe everyone is intolerant of gluten, and the staples of European diets for thousands of years are somehow evil.

    Eating too many calories is what causes obesity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    Eh, the report was on obesity, not greed :confused:

    What causes obesity ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Is there anything to be said for normal portion sizes and eating crappy food in moderation?

    It seems to be working for me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    ryan101 wrote: »
    What causes obesity ?

    A witch?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    Sky King wrote: »
    Is there anything to be said for normal portion sizes and eating crappy food in moderation?

    It seems to be working for me.

    No!!

    You need to cut out all gluten! Only eat 'paleo' foods. NO CARBS!!!!!!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    We are also an extremely productive and hard working workforce. ..this leads to snacking and an over reliance on convenience foods...where as our euopean cousins work max 8 hours per day with long lunch breaks and then have hours to cook long sensual meals...irish see food in two ways: fuel and soakage, not as an integral part of family and cultural life.
    Eating garlic cheesy chips or the likes more than a couple times a year is also a mistake.

    We are not a hard working and extremely productive workforce.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    We are also an extremely productive and hard working workforce. ..this leads to snacking and an over reliance on convenience foods...where as our euopean cousins work max 8 hours per day with long lunch breaks and then have hours to cook long sensual meals...irish see food in two ways: fuel and soakage, not as an integral part of family and cultural life.
    Eating garlic cheesy chips or the likes more than a couple times a year is also a mistake.

    The Polish work twice as hard for half as much, and they don't look too fat to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Just when things were looking up too!

    Yesterday I was living in one of the best educated countries in the world. Today I'm a fat bastard!


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I would have one issue with the report and that's the fact it looks at past trends to predict the future. In my class I'm the only one of 8 lads who's not in the gym several times a week and there maybe one of the girls is a bit pudgy.

    Also I don't find it surprising that countries which have generally been wealthier have had lower rates of obesity.


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  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yesterday I was living in one of the best educated countries in the world. Today I'm a fat bastard!

    At least your education allows you to realise it :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    We are not a hard working and extremely productive workforce.

    http://trueeconomics.blogspot.ie/2012/02/522012-irish-labour-productivity-some.html?m=1

    "Overall, so far, our labour productivity is 5.2% ahead of the EA17 and 4.7% ahead of EU27 in Q3 2011. Year on year, EA 17 labour productivity is up 1.04%, EU27 is up 1.34% and Irish total labour productivity is up 2.28%. This is a strong performance for Ireland, compared to EU and EA averages."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Pa2k


    bardcom wrote: »
    And what to blame? According to this article, its the unregulated liberal free market. Really.

    I call bullsh*t.

    +1

    Was on a bus the other day and heard Americans having a conversation saying that there's hardly any heavy people here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,395 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy



    Eating too many calories is what causes obesity.

    And drinking too many calories too .
    There is a serious issue with alcohol abuse in this country .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭cjlawlor


    Pa2k wrote: »
    +1

    Was on a bus the other day and heard Americans having a conversation saying that there's hardly any heavy people here

    Absolutely conclusive proof the study is wrong right there! ;-)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭kub


    cjlawlor wrote: »
    Absolutely conclusive proof the study is wrong right there! ;-)

    No its just that the fatties are not out and about but in their homes watching day time TV and stuffing their faces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,754 ✭✭✭weisses


    Don't tell O'leary


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ George Hallowed Chip


    catallus wrote: »
    What have gimes got to do with obesity; some of the fattest people I've ever seen were in there!

    Em... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭BlatentCheek


    Better labelling of food from a health point of view could make a big difference. A lot of people, including the types most likely to be obese, aren't inclined to read the current food labels, or may not be able to understand them. I recall a few years ago that a simpler traffic light labelling of foods was proposed at EU level but heavy lobbying by the food industry sank it. I think that could have made a big difference, nobody could delude themselves that it was okay to eat nothing but fattening crap if all the food in their house came with big red health warnings on the packets, they'd be even less likely to feed it to their children.

    If, as I believe, too much salt and sugar in processed foods is a major contributing factor to obesity then I'd say an influx of US manufactured crap, eg white bread tasting of sugar, following the US-EU free-trade deal will make obesity much worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Every day I see 2-3 morbidly obese people that have trouble walking :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭maguic24


    catallus wrote: »
    What's wrong with bread and pasta?!

    Makes me all farty and bloated. Oh and I gains all the weights when I eat too much of it. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,261 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Every day I see 2-3 morbidly obese people that have trouble walking :eek:

    Then get out of the house more .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    ryan101 wrote: »
    What causes obesity ?

    Santa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Very little.

    Its the latest fad thing to believe everyone is intolerant of gluten, and the staples of European diets for thousands of years are somehow evil.

    Eating too many calories is what causes obesity.

    It's nothing to do with gluten.

    Pasta and bread provide a large amount of energy. Most people don't need it.
    It's also a lot easier to stuff your face with bread than it is to stuff your face with cream and butter.

    If all the carbs you were eating every day was one bowl of pasta for dinner it wouldn't be a problem.
    It's a problem when they have cereal and toast for breakfast, a sandwich for lunch and a load of pasta, bread, rice or spuds for dinner.

    Unless you're an athlete you just don't need the amount of carbs that most people eat.

    It's not about bread and pasta, per se, it's about having easily accessible, easily consumable, high-calorie food on a regular basis. Bread and pasta just happen to tick those boxes.

    That's why gluten free diets can work - it's nothing to do with how you metabolise gluten (unless you're a coeliac) but how you just end up eating less because most gluten free alternatives taste like playdough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,969 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    ryan101 wrote: »
    The Polish work twice as hard for half as much, and they don't look too fat to me.

    Link or statistic please?


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