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We're the fattest in Europe and going to stay that way.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    Sky King wrote: »
    Is there anything to be said for normal portion sizes and eating crappy food in moderation?

    It seems to be working for me.

    No!!

    You need to cut out all gluten! Only eat 'paleo' foods. NO CARBS!!!!!!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    We are also an extremely productive and hard working workforce. ..this leads to snacking and an over reliance on convenience foods...where as our euopean cousins work max 8 hours per day with long lunch breaks and then have hours to cook long sensual meals...irish see food in two ways: fuel and soakage, not as an integral part of family and cultural life.
    Eating garlic cheesy chips or the likes more than a couple times a year is also a mistake.

    We are not a hard working and extremely productive workforce.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    We are also an extremely productive and hard working workforce. ..this leads to snacking and an over reliance on convenience foods...where as our euopean cousins work max 8 hours per day with long lunch breaks and then have hours to cook long sensual meals...irish see food in two ways: fuel and soakage, not as an integral part of family and cultural life.
    Eating garlic cheesy chips or the likes more than a couple times a year is also a mistake.

    The Polish work twice as hard for half as much, and they don't look too fat to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Just when things were looking up too!

    Yesterday I was living in one of the best educated countries in the world. Today I'm a fat bastard!


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I would have one issue with the report and that's the fact it looks at past trends to predict the future. In my class I'm the only one of 8 lads who's not in the gym several times a week and there maybe one of the girls is a bit pudgy.

    Also I don't find it surprising that countries which have generally been wealthier have had lower rates of obesity.


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  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yesterday I was living in one of the best educated countries in the world. Today I'm a fat bastard!

    At least your education allows you to realise it :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    We are not a hard working and extremely productive workforce.

    http://trueeconomics.blogspot.ie/2012/02/522012-irish-labour-productivity-some.html?m=1

    "Overall, so far, our labour productivity is 5.2% ahead of the EA17 and 4.7% ahead of EU27 in Q3 2011. Year on year, EA 17 labour productivity is up 1.04%, EU27 is up 1.34% and Irish total labour productivity is up 2.28%. This is a strong performance for Ireland, compared to EU and EA averages."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Pa2k


    bardcom wrote: »
    And what to blame? According to this article, its the unregulated liberal free market. Really.

    I call bullsh*t.

    +1

    Was on a bus the other day and heard Americans having a conversation saying that there's hardly any heavy people here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,609 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy



    Eating too many calories is what causes obesity.

    And drinking too many calories too .
    There is a serious issue with alcohol abuse in this country .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 243 ✭✭cjlawlor


    Pa2k wrote: »
    +1

    Was on a bus the other day and heard Americans having a conversation saying that there's hardly any heavy people here

    Absolutely conclusive proof the study is wrong right there! ;-)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭kub


    cjlawlor wrote: »
    Absolutely conclusive proof the study is wrong right there! ;-)

    No its just that the fatties are not out and about but in their homes watching day time TV and stuffing their faces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,858 ✭✭✭weisses


    Don't tell O'leary


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ George Hallowed Chip


    catallus wrote: »
    What have gimes got to do with obesity; some of the fattest people I've ever seen were in there!

    Em... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭BlatentCheek


    Better labelling of food from a health point of view could make a big difference. A lot of people, including the types most likely to be obese, aren't inclined to read the current food labels, or may not be able to understand them. I recall a few years ago that a simpler traffic light labelling of foods was proposed at EU level but heavy lobbying by the food industry sank it. I think that could have made a big difference, nobody could delude themselves that it was okay to eat nothing but fattening crap if all the food in their house came with big red health warnings on the packets, they'd be even less likely to feed it to their children.

    If, as I believe, too much salt and sugar in processed foods is a major contributing factor to obesity then I'd say an influx of US manufactured crap, eg white bread tasting of sugar, following the US-EU free-trade deal will make obesity much worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Every day I see 2-3 morbidly obese people that have trouble walking :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭maguic24


    catallus wrote: »
    What's wrong with bread and pasta?!

    Makes me all farty and bloated. Oh and I gains all the weights when I eat too much of it. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,566 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Every day I see 2-3 morbidly obese people that have trouble walking :eek:

    Then get out of the house more .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    ryan101 wrote: »
    What causes obesity ?

    Santa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Very little.

    Its the latest fad thing to believe everyone is intolerant of gluten, and the staples of European diets for thousands of years are somehow evil.

    Eating too many calories is what causes obesity.

    It's nothing to do with gluten.

    Pasta and bread provide a large amount of energy. Most people don't need it.
    It's also a lot easier to stuff your face with bread than it is to stuff your face with cream and butter.

    If all the carbs you were eating every day was one bowl of pasta for dinner it wouldn't be a problem.
    It's a problem when they have cereal and toast for breakfast, a sandwich for lunch and a load of pasta, bread, rice or spuds for dinner.

    Unless you're an athlete you just don't need the amount of carbs that most people eat.

    It's not about bread and pasta, per se, it's about having easily accessible, easily consumable, high-calorie food on a regular basis. Bread and pasta just happen to tick those boxes.

    That's why gluten free diets can work - it's nothing to do with how you metabolise gluten (unless you're a coeliac) but how you just end up eating less because most gluten free alternatives taste like playdough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    ryan101 wrote: »
    The Polish work twice as hard for half as much, and they don't look too fat to me.

    Link or statistic please?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    mfceiling wrote: »
    Link or statistic please?

    Somehow I think such stats will not be forthcoming


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Then get out of the house more .

    Stick with the day job comedy doesn't work for you :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    mfceiling wrote: »
    Link or statistic please?

    You'll find the proof in your local spar shop, petrol station, hotel and restaurant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭paulheu


    catallus wrote: »
    What's wrong with bread and pasta?!
    For starters to your body the bread you get from your Tesco or Dunnes is basically just you spooning in loads of sugar. And don't be fooled by the notion that 'brown' bread is better. Generally speaking the brown variants of white bread are just having colour additives added, not in any way are these any better.

    Bread is one of the most fattening foods there is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    ryan101 wrote: »
    You'll find the proof in your local spar shop, petrol station, hotel and restaurant.
    And how do you infer from that that Poles work twice as hard?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    And how do you infer from that that Poles work twice as hard?

    I get twice as good service for starters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    ryan101 wrote: »
    I get twice as good service for starters.
    Right ok


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 91 ✭✭que pasa


    "Irish men the ugliest in the World''.

    ''Irish people fattest in Europe''.

    Anything else?

    You self loathers really are a pathetic bunch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    que pasa wrote: »
    "Irish men the ugliest in the World''.

    ''Irish people fattest in Europe''.

    Anything else?

    You self loathers really are a pathetic bunch.

    I prefer them to those who loath others instead, a desire to improve things is not self loathing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    cournioni wrote: »
    More studies, more funding.

    I think we might need a Dáil committee to look into this further.


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