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Unpopular Rock and Metal Opinions?

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    #212
    Generic Dreadhead
    Registered Users Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Slayers music bores the living $hit out me I walked out on them at a festival after 4 songs


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    #213
    Pyr0
    Registered Users Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    Links234 wrote: »
    I'm not hugely familiar with glam at all, but your post was a great read! ;)

    But this along with the Pantera discussion is funny, because as well know they used to be glam themselves:

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    The album "Power Metal" is in my opinion, one of their best albums.


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    #214
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Pyr0 wrote: »
    The album "Power Metal" is in my opinion, one of their best albums.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAh9Kr2nHHk


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    #215
    SilverScreen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    bnt wrote: »
    My unpopular Metal opinion? If you're going to sing, I want to understand the words you're singing. I have no time for "vocalists" who try to sound like animals. If you're just going to roar or grunt in to the mic, I'd rather you just shut up altogether. That's my opinion.
    But they're not trying to sing.


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    #216
    Grayditch
    Registered Users Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    People would have said in the past that unclean/distorted guitars were just noise.


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    #217
    bnt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,959 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    SilverScreen wrote: »
    But they're not trying to sing.
    I have no trouble believing that - which is why I called them "vocalists" rather than "singers". :pac:

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

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    #218
    SilverScreen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    bnt wrote: »
    I have no trouble believing that - which is why I called them "vocalists" rather than "singers". :pac:
    Fair enough.

    Most of the time I don't care about lyrics, the music takes priority over lyrics for me. A lot of artists I listen to you can barely make out the lyrics anyway. I think it's a bit shallow if you can only rely on lyrics to feel emotions from music rather than feel emotions from the music itself. I also find it more interesting when a lack of clarity over lyrics leaves a song open to interpretation.

    I think that growling and screaming works perfectly in certain contexts. There's no right or wrong way to do vocals, there's just different approaches to it.


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    #219
    bnt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,959 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    SilverScreen wrote: »
    I think it's a bit shallow if you can only rely on lyrics to feel emotions from music rather than feel emotions from the music itself.
    Where did that come from? It certainly doesn't relate to anything I said. Some of my favourite music is instrumental.

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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    #220
    SilverScreen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    bnt wrote: »
    Where did that come from? It certainly doesn't relate to anything I said. Some of my favourite music is instrumental.
    It's not directly related to what you just said. It's just a point I made in general.


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    #221
    RichFTW
    Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭RichFTW


    SilverScreen wrote: »
    Fair enough.

    Most of the time I don't care about lyrics, the music takes priority over lyrics for me. A lot of artists I listen to you can barely make out the lyrics anyway. I think it's a bit shallow if you can only rely on lyrics to feel emotions from music rather than feel emotions from the music itself. I also find it more interesting when a lack of clarity over lyrics leaves a song open to interpretation.

    I think that growling and screaming works perfectly in certain contexts. There's no right or wrong way to do vocals, there's just different approaches to it.

    I'd be the opposite. I find a lot more emotion in a song from it's lyrics rather than the music. Don't see how that makes me shallow and I'd say it's more shallow to like a meaningless song just because it has a catchy tune or riff. I get bored of songs without meaning fairly fast unless the music is top notch. Talented musicians are a dime a dozen but it takes a special talent to write a memorable song lyrically.

    Exception would be metal where lyrics are generally meaningless filler but I still love it because of the music. It can get pretty boring and repetitive though if the music has no emotion in it, which happens a lot given the amount of generic metal bands around. Example for me would be if you compare Deftones vrs any glam rock/metal band. Both have filler lyrics based on an overriding idea but Deftones create an atmosphere and an emotion though the music, glam rock doesn't and is just crap. A lot of other bands fall into this category for me as well if they have meaningless lyrics.


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    #222
    Useful.Idiot
    Registered Users Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭Useful.Idiot


    It should also be noted that in the better growling/grunting/screaming bands that for the full enveloping listening experience, one would be expected to read the lyric booklet while listening to the album. Lyrically, there's a lot going on with some of these bands.

    Powerful lyrics coupled with powerful, affecting music is a tour de force of music listening!


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    #223
    StaticAge11
    Registered Users Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭StaticAge11


    RichFTW wrote: »
    For me, the thread was pretty much won by the guy who said Death Magnetic was better than all other Metallica albums! Hard to motivate yourself to read the thread again knowing it's unlikely to be topped. :pac:

    I stand by that opinion, its my personal favourite anyway


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    #224
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    I think that saying "I like growly vocals" would be a more genuinely unpopular opinion. :)


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    #225
    NufcNavan
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    Fade to Black is my favourite Metallica song.


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    #226
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    NufcNavan wrote: »
    Fade to Black is my favourite Metallica song.

    I'd probably have it my top 5 myself

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    #227
    Mushy
    Registered Users Posts: 21,137 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    NufcNavan wrote: »
    Fade to Black is my favourite Metallica song.

    Same here!


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    #228
    Gunslinger92
    Registered Users Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Gunslinger92


    I don't miss Nick Oliveri one bit. The current QOTSA line up is absolutely fantastic and I hope it remains the way it currently is.


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    #229
    Lithium93_
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    I ABSOLUTELY DESPISE KISS


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    #230
    Angron
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    I ABSOLUTELY DESPISE KISS
    While I largely don't care about their music, I loathe Simmons.


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    #231
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    I saw Kiss live in the O2 and they were fantastic, they really put on an amazing show. Ignoring Gene Simmons, it's no shock why they've been a big deal for so long.


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    #232
    Passenger
    Registered Users Posts: 6,144 ✭✭✭Passenger


    Links234 wrote: »
    I saw Kiss live in the O2 and they were fantastic, they really put on an amazing show. Ignoring Gene Simmons, it's no shock why they've been a big deal for so long.

    Not a Kiss fan in the slightest but a friend had a spare ticket so I went along to that gig and it was an incredible spectacle. Easily one of the best performances I've ever seen.


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    #233
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Exactly, I never really listened to them much before that gig, but a friend suggested we go to it and they were amazing


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    #234
    Grayditch
    Registered Users Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    That gig was incredible.


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    #235
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users Posts: 17,503 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    I am a Kiss fan, and that was a brilliant gig. Was like a 5 year old on christmas eve for the month up to it and it didn't disappoint.


    However, I saw RATM shortly afterwards and thought they were only average


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    #236
    Whiskeyjack
    Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭Whiskeyjack


    Never Say Die is one of Sabbath's greatest albums

    *ducks*


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    #237
    Rothko
    Registered Users Posts: 12,841 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    Whiskeyjack wrote: »
    Never Say Die is one of Sabbath's greatest albums

    *ducks*

    I wouldn't agree but I think it's underrated.


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    #238
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users Posts: 17,503 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Pantera's cover of Planet Caravan is better than the original


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    #239
    happyoutscan
    Registered Users Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    The Black Album sucks.


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    #240
    BlaasForRafa
    Registered Users Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    happyoutscan wrote: »
    The Black Album sucks.

    I think so too.

    Also, Styper were a good band


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    #241
    Anesthetize
    Registered Users Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Anesthetize


    happyoutscan wrote: »
    The Black Album sucks.
    That's a widely held view, hardly an unpopular opinion.


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