BANGERNOMICS CAR OF THE WEEK/DAY

pippip

Never ever seen a spoiler on the back of a 95, at first glance I thought it was a photo of a old civic saloon.

Lovely car.

Ded_Zebra

unkel wrote: »

'05 Saab 9-5 (no sludge problems!)

97k miles, NCT 06/15, asking €1,750

This for me is what this thread is all about! lots of test, lovely interior and exterior and people will think that is worth a lot more than the asking price :cool:

bear1

Well then Ded_Zebra you will love this

http://www.adverts.ie/car/lexus/gs/1998-lexus-gs-300-for-sale/6313263

Even more luxury

unkel

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

This for me is what this thread is all about! lots of test, lovely interior and exterior and people will think that is worth a lot more than the asking price :cool:

And there's more. There's every chance that you can drive this car for 2 or 3 years and only need to spend peanuts on maintenance. It's a very reliable car and there really isn't much to go wrong or that's expensive to maintain. No timing belt for starters

@pippip - agreed that the spoiler is horrific and the wheels wouldn't be my choice either to put it mildly, but for the best bangernomics deals, you'd often need to make a few concessions...

unkel

bear1 wrote: »

Well then Ded_Zebra you will love this

http://www.adverts.ie/car/lexus/gs/1998-lexus-gs-300-for-sale/6313263

Even more luxury

Nice and all, but only 4 months NCT and €1,500 tax (the Saab is €700 to tax)

bear1

unkel wrote: »

Nice and all, but only 4 months NCT and €1,500 tax (the Saab is €700 to tax)

Look at the price difference though
Personally though I would go for the Lexus.

Toyotafanboi

unkel wrote: »

Nice and all, but only 4 months NCT and €1,500 tax (the Saab is €700 to tax)

but its 1k cheaper to buy than the saab. if you haggle hard you could buy the lexus and tax it for the year for not much more than the asking price of the saab. i know where id rather be.

bear1

Or... if we want to look at a cheap diesel family saloon with fairly high miles with a long NCT then look no further:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-mondeo/7632241

unkel

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

if you haggle hard you could buy the lexus and tax it for the year for not much more than the asking price of the saab.

You reckon you could buy the Lexus for a bit over €250 then?

I'm the first to say, it's a nice car. More refined, more luxury, silky straight 6, auto, RWD. But it is nearly twice as old as the Saab.

Ded_Zebras favourite point about bangernomics is that people think it's worth a lot more than the asking price. That will hold for the '05 Saab but not so much for the '98 Lexus...

Ded_Zebra

unkel wrote: »

You reckon you could buy the Lexus for a bit over €250 then?

I'm the first to say, it's a nice car. More refined, more luxury, silky straight 6, RWD. But it is nearly twice as old as the Saab.

Ded_Zebras favourite point about bangernomics is that people think it's worth a lot more than the asking price. That will hold for the '05 Saab but not so much for the '98 Lexus...

I think they might think it is

Or if not I'm going to go against what I just said because I like the Lexus more I would be more lightly to drive it myself TBH

bear1

I'd say you could get the Lexus at the 700 mark.
I see where you're coming from, but I think at first glance people would be hard pushed to believe you've bought such a Lexus for 7/800e.
The Saab falls into that category as well.

unkel

Now I generally feel there is better value for money in the upper end of the bangernomics budget, but I'm posting 2 cars here well below €1k. Both 2l so relatively cheap tax (€710) and both a shortish NCT (01/15) and both under 100k miles. Good value though:

'03 Sonata, asking €850



'03 9-5, asking €890 (from a dealer, so comes with warranty)

JohnBoy26

unkel wrote: »

You reckon you could buy the Lexus for a bit over €250 then?

I'm the first to say, it's a nice car. More refined, more luxury, silky straight 6, auto, RWD. But it is nearly twice as old as the Saab.

Ded_Zebras favourite point about bangernomics is that people think it's worth a lot more than the asking price. That will hold for the '05 Saab but not so much for the '98 Lexus...

Newer isn't always better.

That saab is nearly 10 years old and the lexus nearly 17 years old at this stage. both are old cars now and should be judged on condition rather than the number on the plate imo.

On another note those old Lexus are top quality vehicles

alias no.9

unkel wrote: »

'03 9-5, asking €890 (from a dealer, so comes with warranty)

Pretty sure you'd need to litigate to establish a warranty there

unkel

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Newer isn't always better.

No need trying to convince me, I'd rather drive the Lexus myself

Just arguing one of the interesting aspects of (some) bangernomics cars. The point Ded_Zebra made about perceived value of the car

Show anyone in the street (not bangernomics experts obviously ) a picture of a well kept '06 Laguna, '05 9-5, '07 Vectra, '06 Mondeo, '06 Scenic, etc. (all from this thread) and no one would reckon any of them is worth less than €2k. I'd say most people reckon those cars to be worth upwards of €4k

Toyotafanboi

unkel wrote: »

You reckon you could buy the Lexus for a bit over €250 then?

I'm the first to say, it's a nice car. More refined, more luxury, silky straight 6, auto, RWD. But it is nearly twice as old as the Saab.

Ded_Zebras favourite point about bangernomics is that people think it's worth a lot more than the asking price. That will hold for the '05 Saab but not so much for the '98 Lexus...

no, i said a little it more than the asking price of the saab. i do reckon you could buy it for 500.

you'd also be the first to say to anyone else to pick a bigger, striaght 6, auto RWD as opposed to the fwd 4 banger for the sake of the first 2 digits on the reg plate.

that particular saab imo has had a skangerish past. i wouldn't be surprised if the same seller had another advert up for a set of used saab coilovers.

is that a mk6 mitsubishi lancer spoiler cobbled onto the saab.

don't get me wrong either, i understand what the saab represents in terms of values here. i just have a horn for the lexus :pac:

unkel

alias no.9 wrote: »

Pretty sure you'd need to litigate to establish a warranty there

Small claims court is the best friend of the person buying bangernomics from a dealer. €25 will be the grand total of your legal fees

bear1

I don't think I should post anymore Lexus'

Ded_Zebra

New NCT. Dreadful wheels and for the most part looks a bit rough around the edges. Also IMO black leather is the single worst and ugliest thing someone can spec in any car. Putting that aside, for €990 its not so bad

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/97-mercedes-s320-with-new-nct/7625923

Toyotafanboi

indeed. someone really wanted to make a statement specing silver paint with black seats

unkel

W140. Skangered and all, yuk

If I were to buy a €1k car with €2k tax, it would need to have a V8 engine. No NCTd W220 on donedeal but there is a €1k E38 (probably posted here before):

Ded_Zebra

Milage is getting up there but looks like a nice car for the money to me

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a4-avant/7627741

Ded_Zebra

This thread used to be thick with these, They're starting to get thin on the ground now. Personally I think they look really nice, especially from the back.

NCT 1/15 only but it looks very clean and has low milage

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/fiat-bravo-sx/7631067?sv=1

bear1

What in the name of ****e are those yokes on the center vents??

BrendanD

unkel wrote: »

'05 Saab 9-5 (no sludge problems!)

97k miles, NCT 06/15, asking €1,750

any idea what the mpg would be like on this ?

bear1

Official figures put it at 32mpg.

bear1

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-romeo-156-m-jet-turismo/7399153

I'd say you could definitely get this within budget.
Long NCT, reliable engine but cloth seats

toyotaavensis

When that lad says an opel diesel engine I worry. I know very little about alfas but know a little about SAABs. If he is talking about the fiat 1.9 then happy days but if it is an old opel diesel I would be wary. SAAB used an opel (GM) 2.2L diesel and it was not known for being good.

Any alfa lovers here know who made the engine in her?

almostover

toyotaavensis wrote: »

When that lad says an opel diesel engine I worry. I know very little about alfas but know a little about SAABs. If he is talking about the fiat 1.9 then happy days but if it is an old opel diesel I would be wary. SAAB used an opel (GM) 2.2L diesel and it was not known for being good.

Any alfa lovers here know who made the engine in her?

Same engine as my vectra SRi. Lovely engine once swirl flap & EGR issues are put right. Good for 52-53 MPG in my experience and very torquey,

bear1

The 1.9 unit is a Fiat engine which was then used in Saabs and Opels so the guy is right but got it the wrong way around.
Also, in the Alfa there were no swirl flaps issues so it is a slightly more reliable engine than the other versions.
AFAIK it's the block which is the same but the ancillaries are different on the Opel/Saab versions.